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Davalon said:
People get uppity with people posting ITK stuff.

Doesn't bother me either way as it's up to the individual whether they give it any credibility.

Just to clarify, are you nailing your colours to the mast that Eddie Howe has agreed to join us in the summer?

What's his stance on the DoF the board apparently want?
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The only way Howe doesn't sign for us is if the Palace job becomes available. Howe has worked with a DoF for a number of years at Bournemouth and that was part of the reason they had so much success for 6 or 7 years. Him and Tindall compliment each other perfectly. Howe likes a squad to have a number of good young players. That, we have got.
 
Bladesmanstan said:
That's a load of bollocks mate. Not a big falling out at all. Even most Bournemouth fans are hearing the first about it....one journo on twitter putting a tweet up over weekend has everyone shocked. Nothing ever been reported on them two falling out.


Yep this is it. He's not allowed to join any club until summer because of it.
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Oh well . My source was close to the actual event but if its bollocks, its bollocks! Maybe they've kissed and made up....
 
Forget the London mob, it's too far north for them and way too far for the seat of power for most of the rest,
Got to be some one desperate to make a name for him self over here, and can work on a low budget,
Got to be an overseas manager for me, may even be middle eastern .... ;)
 
Pottedmeattoes said:
Just googled Dyche current salary,70k week,Chris reported contract 675k a year.Burnley chairman poorest in prem,small crowd income,somebody explain.
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Wilder was on nearly £2m per year hence all the discussions around his payoff taking so long.

Steve Bruce is the lowest paid Prem manager and he's on approx £1.5m.
 
SwindonBladeJnr said:
The only 2 that would give me some level of confidence are Eddie Howe and Frank Lampard.

I'd prefer Howe, but actually think that FL is more likely to want the role (Howe may be content to wait for a PL shot) and think he would appeal to PA as a world renowned figure in football.
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He could have a premier league shot,might only be for a few weeks mind .
 
FriethBlade said:
If Howe is interested and we are interested why isn't he on the verge of joining ( maybe he is !) Hes out of work and the board knew things were coming to a head so could have sounded him out.

My viee is Howe is waiting for Woy Hodgson to pack in at Palace. Howe is a southern boy and failed last time he ventured north, Palace would be a perfect fit for him
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If CW was to be offered another Prem job, I would have thought Palace would be one of the most likely contenders for him. Burnley would be the other obvious one but I can't see Dyche going anywhere anytime soon, especially if they avoid relegation which they certainly look like doing. Other than that, Newcastle might be a long shot, although I would have thought they'd go with a bigger name. The only other possibility would be ia club in the relegation zone f/when someone is sacked. I doubt Norwich would be interested so it may depend on who else goes up.

I can see Howe being similar to Chris Houghton - expecting to be offered a Prem job and hanging on for an offer but ending up taking a role in the Champ.
 
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Mouth of the South said:
If CW was to be offered another Prem job, I would have thought Palace would be one of the most likely contenders for him. Burnley would be the other obvious one but I can't see Dyche going anywhere anytime soon, especially if they avoid relegation which they certainly look like doing. Other than that, Newcastle might be a long shot, although I would have thought they'd go with a bigger name. The only other possibility would be ia club in the relegation zone f/when someone is sacked. I doubt Norwich would be interested so it may depend on who else goes up.

I can see Howe being similar to Chris Houghton - expecting to be offered a Prem job and hanging on for an offer but ending up taking a role in the Champ.
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Dyche may consider leaving Burnley while his stock is high. He seemed quite pissed off that he couldn’t sign players and the new owners may wish to continue in a similar manner. He might look at Wilder and think “that’s going to be me next season”. I don’t think he’d come to us but some lower end PL club will sack a manager around October/November and he’d be in a good position to be one of the front runners. He might even put some feelers out to Palace, they could do a lot worse.
 
Mouth of the South said:
If CW was to be offered another Prem job, I would have thought Palace would be one of the most likely contenders as well
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Not sure Wilder will offered any jobs in the PL.

He has very little management experience at PL and Championship level.
His success and experience is mainly league 2 and non league based.
Wilder is on record saying he doesn’t like the idea of a Director of Football.
My understanding is that every club (apart from us) has a Director of Football.

Wilder has hardly any experience dealing with highly paid players with big ego’s.
He could do a Roy Keane, Di Canio and fall out with certain platers at his new club.

Wilder has no reputation as a player..until 2 years ago...hardly anyone in the UK had even heard of him.

He’s got a northern accent and is straight talking/ quite abrasive.
He fits SU well but it’s not fashionable to have this type of manager.

If you read forums of other clubs Wilder is seen like a poor man’s Sean Dyche.
Notice how everyone rates Dyche but no fans want him at their clubs...no PL show any interest in him.
They also rate Wilder at SU but again they don’t think he’s the right fit for their club.

I think the clubs that would take Wilder are Nottingham F, Derby or Sunderland.
Also with Rangers having success with a strong English personality at Rangers, who has galvanised their fans.
I wouldnt surprise me if Celtic follow suit and appoint Wilder.....he’d be a good fit.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Think that’s unfair. Appreciate that the Scottish league is poor and is probably slowly dying.

but based on actual facts, regards fanbase, trophies won, history and potential.... both Celtic and Rangers are strong contenders of being in the top 12 “biggest“ clubs in world football. In England theres only Man Utd and Liverpool with a bigger fan base.
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No worries, you are entitled to that opinion; I wouldn’t argue with size per se. Doesn’t mean they are not deluded though. You should come up here and listen to them prattle on sometimes.
 
BushBlade said:
Dyche may consider leaving Burnley while his stock is high. He seemed quite pissed off that he couldn’t sign players and the new owners may wish to continue in a similar manner. He might look at Wilder and think “that’s going to be me next season”. I don’t think he’d come to us but some lower end PL club will sack a manager around October/November and he’d be in a good position to be one of the front runners. He might even put some feelers out to Palace, they could do a lot worse.
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I don't disagree with any of that however, the one thing that may tie Dyche to Burnley and put other clubs off is his salary - he's on a lot more than their highest paid player. Palace could probably afford it as could most other Prem clubs but I couldn't imagine any Champ clubs paying that much, especially for him
 
Sheffsteel said:
Not sure Wilder will offered any jobs in the PL.

He has very little management experience at PL and Championship level.
His success and experience is mainly league 2 and non league based.
Wilder is on record saying he doesn’t like the idea of a Director of Football.
My understanding is that every club (apart from us) has a Director of Football.

Wilder has hardly any experience dealing with highly paid players with big ego’s.
He could do a Roy Keane, Di Canio and fall out with certain platers at his new club.

Wilder has no reputation as a player..until 2 years ago...hardly anyone in the UK had even heard of him.

He’s got a northern accent and is straight talking/ quite abrasive.
He fits SU well but it’s not fashionable to have this type of manager.

If you read forums of other clubs Wilder is seen like a poor man’s Sean Dyche.
Notice how everyone rates Dyche but no fans want him at their clubs...no PL show any interest in him.
They also rate Wilder at SU but again they don’t think he’s the right fit for their club.

I think the clubs that would take Wilder are Nottingham F, Derby or Sunderland.
Also with Rangers having success with a strong English personality at Rangers, who has galvanised their fans.
I wouldnt surprise me if Celtic follow suit and appoint Wilder.....he’d be a good fit.
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Completely agree regarding the peculiar position that Wilder now finds himself in regarding future jobs that he might be considered for.

The reality/tragedy of this fiasco is that Wilder is highly unlikely to ever have a job that he is as suited to or as good as the one he has left. Meanwhile, the club is highly unlikely to find a manager as suited to or as good as the one we have just lost.

It wouldn't be remotely surprising to see us go through 3 or 4 managers in the next 18 months, in the search for an identity.

As a Carlisle supporting mate said to me on Friday when the news broke, this time next year we'll probably find ourselves turning to a survival specialist like Tony Pulis to try to keep us out of League 1. Even outsiders feel that they know full well the cycle of Sheffield's under-performing clubs. It was hard to gainsay him.

What a mess.
 

Danny_Blade said:
Marco Silva is a manager I would at least consider if I was the Prince.

A decent win percentage of 50%.

Got relegated from the PL as Hull manager but the bottom line is they didn't have enough quality to survive anyway. But I remember still being impressed with how he managed them and continued to get the best out of them till the end of that season, they were never dead and buried or cut adrift.

Got the sack from Watford but not very surprising there as that happens every 5 minutes at Vicarage Road.

Also got the sack (I'm not selling this very well am I?) at Everton halfway through his second season but did well in his first full season finishing in 8th. IMO the job was just a tad too big/early for him.

He's taken a break for a little over a year now so must be looking for his next job sooner or later and may see a recently relegated PL club as a way to get back there?
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He spent a fortune at Everton and they were fucking useless
People moan about Wilder spending £120m and making us worse
Silva spunked way more that that
 
whoever comes is going to have a very tough job. because i wouldve been 90% sure that we would finish top 2 next season. now im not confident that we would even be top half
 
Pedro Verde said:
He spent a fortune at Everton and they were fucking useless
People moan about Wilder spending £120m and making us worse
Silva spunked way more that that
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Despite that I still think he's decent because of his spell at Hull that I mentioned. At least he wouldn't have millions to waste with us though as we're we only supposed to be signing around 4 or 5 loan players next season and he might have to take a bit of a lesser job if he wants to get back into management.

Regardless of who we appoint one thing we must all realise though is we aren't going to get much of an outstanding manager/head coach because there aren't any unemployed and we won't be able to poach any quality ones that might be in the PL or Championship at least.
 
Danny_Blade said:
Despite that I still think he's decent because of his spell at Hull that I mentioned. At least he wouldn't have millions to waste with us though as we're we only supposed to be signing around 4 or 5 loan players next season and he might have to take a bit of a lesser job if he wants to get back into management.
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Not for me he made a mess at Everton hes not worked on a small budget wouldnt want him anywhere near BDTBL. He can go and take a lesser job somehwere else and make a mess there
 
I would go with Howe alot of the other usual suspects are members of the managerial merry go round, serial failures basically. Also notice Howe's previous sidekick Tindal is already in place on a spying mission.☘
 
Pedro Verde said:
Not for me he made a mess at Everton hes not worked on a small budget wouldnt want him anywhere near BDTBL. He can go and take a lesser job somehwere else and make a mess there
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That's fine and understand where you're coming from but most football managers have had a bad spell at some point in their careers though. Wilder has left us in a much better position overall than when he started but has still left us in somewhat of a mess that may make the next couple of seasons tricky to navigate.

Silva just appeals to me as one of the better ones in a poor pool!
 
Eddie Howe is a good shout if he wants to come north, if not I think Bilic would be a good fit for us. He did quite well with West Ham in the Prem until he was sacked because of a bad run but he got West Brom promoted to the Prem last season so knows the way to get a side up from the Championship. Either would be decent shouts and would also get a better quality of player in than some that have been mentioned.
 
I’ve suggested him on another thread, and considering we may well have limited funds for an appointment, might Mark Robins be an outside shout? Done well to bring Coventry back up to the championship with a large rebuild on an extremely limited budget
 
Swinton Blade said:
He probably was on £75k a week at Chelsea. FL comes across as a smart man, surely he'll realise not many other clubs will pay that.

If he wants to continue as a manger he would have to take a pay cut. I do wonder what Derby were paying him though.
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When he does match interviews he looks anything but smart, sometimes he looks like he’s living on the streets 😂
 
Fuckin Eddie Howe FFS lads just think back to the two Bournemouth games last season what a cheating set of diving bastards they were. Is that really the style we want to see the Blades play, shithouse, defend and hope for a breakaway ? No thanks.
 

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