£50 increase on season tickets.?ffs

[Micalijo]

Foxy - I have no personal axe to grind with you but if the club is thinking in the same way as you then we are in even bigger trouble than I thought.

Presumably it's ok to lose millions in China and millions on a hotel and millions on stupid signings but it'snot ok to evn consider knocking money off STs for the actual long suffering fans of the club just in case ticket revenue goes down by - in a worst case scenario probably a few tens of thousands - and in a best case scenario we end up with thousands more fans staying active.

I remember last summer when there seemed many on here who blindly followed the club line that ST sales were in line with the season before. Anyone actually communicating with the avergae Blade knew that couldn't be the case and that thousands of loyal fans were walking away - yes loyal fans can walk away.

It really saddens me to see the same attitudes and probably same mistakes being made all over again this year. Do some people on here really exist in the real world - do they hear what the average Blades ST holders are saying about not renewing?

It's last chance saloon time for the club on keeping a decent fanbase for the future. Show some bloody imagination United, don't accept the demise of the club as some seem to be and bloody wake up and do something about it.

It won;t bother Birch if there are less than 10,000 gates in a season or so as he will be long gone but actual Blades should be bothered.

Top stuff Tunsy - you've got to remember though that it has been said on here that things will be better with 9,000 there, all supporting the side.

 

[raul]

You might want to check this out. Lists all the top price season tickets across the Football League for every team.

Interesting reading

http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=57&func=view&catid=999999&id=101413

39th dearest, 43rd in the league. Looks about right to me.....


...more importantly, you've been caught on a Doncaster Rovers site. Burn him

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Top stuff Tunsy - you've got to remember though that it has been said on here that things will be better with 9,000 there, all supporting the side.

So the future'll be just like Villa in the Cup then?

 

[SotonBlade]

39th dearest, 43rd in the league. Looks about right to me.....


...more importantly, you've been caught on a Doncaster Rovers site. Burn him

Good old google found it i promise!!

One thing, who the hell pays a grand to watch Ipswich!!!

 

[lenners]

I think the club are in for a mighty shock when it comes to season ticket sales next season.
They aren't reading the effect of the recession or more importantly the mood of the fans at all.
Very few are enjoying their football in the slightest any more. It's just not worth it.
Some kind of organised boycott would perhaps be the first step to making our club something that matters to people once again.

 

[Foxy]

Presumably it's ok to lose millions in China and millions on a hotel and millions on stupid signings but it'snot ok to evn consider knocking money off STs for the actual long suffering fans of the club just in case ticket revenue goes down by - in a worst case scenario probably a few tens of thousands - and in a best case scenario we end up with thousands more fans staying active.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get in for next to nowt. It'd be great if the club spent money on making sure I can watch them cheaply instead of taking a Chinese gamble or buying a player I don't personally rate, but that's not a very sensible way to run a football club is it?

Where do you stop at giving the fans exactly what they want? Many were "disgusted" that the club didn't bow down to Matt Killgallon, do you know what sort of percentage of season ticket income it would have taken a year to keep him?

It really saddens me to see the same attitudes and probably same mistakes being made all over again this year. Do some people on here really exist in the real world - do they hear what the average Blades ST holders are saying about not renewing?

Do you not take into consideration people on here in your cross-section of average Blades ST holders? Where do I stand in your table of loyal fans and their opinions?

It's last chance saloon time for the club on keeping a decent fanbase for the future. Show some bloody imagination United, don't accept the demise of the club as some seem to be and bloody wake up and do something about it.

This season, United have had many, many offers to allow people to watch us cheaply (no idea how much i've saved by having a season ticket, but it can't be much). They've continued with the offers for kids in an attempt to make football more affordable to families and to allow potential supporters of the future to come for nothing or next to nothing. As has been pointed out elsewhere, we've also remained at a pricing structure which is more than competitive in comparison with others.

At what point do we put an end to reductions/offers? Surely if they massively reduced season tickets next year (completely ignoring the effect that would have in monetary terms)... should we improve, would everyone then be happy with price hikes? or do we continue reducing until we are happy we are getting optimum performance on the pitch?

How many people bought full price merchandise this season? I know I didn't as I expected loads of sales and reductions. If we do the same with tickets, what effect will that have long term?

It won;t bother Birch if there are less than 10,000 gates in a season or so as he will be long gone but actual Blades should be bothered.

No matter what outlook Trevor Birch has on his future employment, surely if only looking out for himself he would be significantly bothered with presiding over such a loss in custom?

Much of this is completely academic anyway, as the prices haven't even been announced yet.

 

[lenners]

Sorry Foxy, but that's garbage and it's as if everything that's happened recently has magically been forgotten.
Did you confirm whether someone at the club had been in touch?
Income from season tickets is going to be sod all relative to costs next season, absolutely sod all.
But at the end of this chaotic era of shyteness served up by McCabe we need to have enough fans left to make our club viable in a two-club city - one where the other club will almost certainly be promoted back to the Prem quicker than we will.
For the sake of a few hundred grand or even £1m, United should have cut season ticket prices quite drastically to keep numbers as they are now.
Once they're gone (and remember 5,000 went last year), they're much harder to get back.
These decisions aren't just about what's in front of yer bleedin' nose, they're about the future longer term.
Has nothing, nothing at all that's happened in the last couple of years, told you that you don't do the thing that looks immediately most expedient without looking at the next page or the one after?

 

[Foxy]

Sorry Foxy, but that's garbage and it's as if everything that's happened recently has magically been forgotten.

Apologies Lenners, perhaps you could tell me what opinion to have in future? it would therefore save my complete embarresment of thinking garbage.

Did you confirm whether someone at the club had been in touch?

About what? I spoke to the lass in the ticket office whilst getting my Pompey and Watford tickets the other day, would you like a transcript?

Income from season tickets is going to be sod all relative to costs next season, absolutely sod all.
But at the end of this chaotic era of shyteness served up by McCabe we need to have enough fans left to make our club viable in a two-club city - one where the other club will almost certainly be promoted back to the Prem quicker than we will.

Is that like last time you said they would reach the Prem quicker than us? Income from season tickets is our main football based income is it not? That and selling players.

For the sake of a few hundred grand or even £1m, United should have cut season ticket prices quite drastically to keep numbers as they are now.
Once they're gone (and remember 5,000 went last year), they're much harder to get back.
These decisions aren't just about what's in front of yer bleedin' nose, they're about the future longer term.

Like I said, if we go down, personally I'd like a reduction. I don't think it's reasonable to expect a huge reduction though. But hey, I just think garbage.

Has nothing, nothing at all that's happened in the last couple of years, told you that you don't do the thing that looks immediately most expedient without looking at the next page or the one after?

Yes. So pray, tell me what happens at the end of next season if we drastically slash this set of prices?

It might be worth remembering that i'm simply giving my opinion on what I feel they should and can do.

Perhaps you could give us your detailed breakdown of exactly what they should do for us to dismiss as garbage simply because we might not agree?

 

[JJ Sefton]

Where do you stop at giving the fans exactly what they want?

Bearing mind that most fans would settle for a team that put a bit of effort in not very far.

 

[lenners]

Sorry for my cynicism Foxy but a number of posts of yours in this thread have come across as if the club's had a quiet word with you.
I'll state now that if season tickets aren't reduced, all Blades fans should boycott buying them until they are.
This website would be a good way of getting that message around as many fans as possible.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Sorry for my cynicism Foxy but a number of posts of yours in this thread have come across as if the club's had a quiet word with you.

I cant see how youve come to that conclusion. A different opnion can be just as sincere.

 

[JohnDenver]

Sorry for my cynicism Foxy but a number of posts of yours in this thread have come across as if the club's had a quiet word with you.
I'll state now that if season tickets aren't reduced, all Blades fans should boycott buying them until they are.
This website would be a good way of getting that message around as many fans as possible.

I'd not boycott the club on the say so of a message board. If it was organised via a campaign group with a documented agenda and achievable, constructive aims I might think about it. But I'd take a lot of persuading.

 

[Foxy]

Sorry for my cynicism Foxy but a number of posts of yours in this thread have come across as if the club's had a quiet word with you.
I'll state now that if season tickets aren't reduced, all Blades fans should boycott buying them until they are.
This website would be a good way of getting that message around as many fans as possible.

If you didn't already notice Lenners, I'm paying to give you the opportunity to do that and was up into the early hours of this morning working on making it a better experience for you, or do you propose I also run a campaign on your behalf to boycott the club we support?

My posts are purely my opinion, nothing else whatsoever. I've always stated that the club trying to influence the way I run this site or the opinions I express on here would result in the similar distain I showed when employees of Sheffield Wednesday FC tried to dictate to me.

You can choose to believe that or not, you can even choose to carry on rubbishing any opinion I have and unfairly labelling me, suit yourself.

I'm fairly confident people will read into the fact that you haven't got the first clue about me and have turned down a number of opportunities for a chat and a pint, when deciding whether or not your ridiculous and insulting claims about me hold any substance.

So, back to the subject at hand, moaning about something we don't even know is happening yet...

 

[lenners]

I'd not boycott the club on the say so of a message board. If it was organised via a campaign group with a documented agenda and achievable, constructive aims I might think about it. But I'd take a lot of persuading.

Not saying you should JD, just expressing my opinion that fans should boycott season tickets if there is no price reduction.
Kind of agree about an organised group though you could also see this as the Blades equivalent of the Egyptian revolution - no leaders required.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Sorry for my cynicism Foxy but a number of posts of yours in this thread have come across as if the club's had a quiet word with you.
I'll state now that if season tickets aren't reduced, all Blades fans should boycott buying them until they are.
This website would be a good way of getting that message around as many fans as possible.

No they haven't. Foxy's line is pretty consistent with what he normally does, which is to wait until the facts are known before jumping to any conclusions.

On your latter point, why don't you start a thread about it? Maybe even a facebook group? Take out a full page advertisement in the Star even?

 

[Casper]

If you didn't already notice Lenners, I'm paying to give you the opportunity to do that and was up into the early hours of this morning working on making it a better experience for you, or do you propose I also run a campaign on your behalf to boycott the club we support?

My posts are purely my opinion, nothing else whatsoever. I've always stated that the club trying to influence the way I run this site or the opinions I express on here would result in the similar distain I showed when employees of Sheffield Wednesday FC tried to dictate to me.

You can choose to believe that or not, you can even choose to carry on rubbishing any opinion I have and unfairly labelling me, suit yourself.

I'm fairly confident people will read into the fact that you haven't got the first clue about me and have turned down a number of opportunities for a chat and a pint, when deciding whether or not your ridiculous and insulting claims about me hold any substance.

So, back to the subject at hand, moaning about something we don't even know is happening yet...

Foxy. broadly speaking there are 3 different types of Internet Message Board Waller..............

1. 'The Foxy' ie people who live and breath it. Spend countless hours either maintaining, messaging, admining, tweeting etc etc (nothing wrong with that by the way - whatever floats peoples boat i say). They organise\attend social gatherings of such like-minded people.

2. 'The Casper' ie people who are pretty anonymous and spend the odd hour or two on the web when the dinner is cooking, wife is watching the soaps or are just pissed off\happy (mostly pissed off though lol) following a game. We dont attend social gathering or owt like that - hey its just the t'interweb after all.

3. 'The Lenners' now these are a different breed. They guard their anonymity at all costs because, like #1, they also spend their life on the web, but deny it. They dont want their friends to know who they are in the virtual world, or espcially the people they delight in arguing with over the keyboard. Although Lenny is not a 'keyboard warrior' in the strictest sense of the word, he takes pleasure in winding people up and trying to appear intellectually superior. They actively avoid any sort of social event because that would just blow their cover you see. He would never meet you or anybody else from the virtual world in a million years.

 

[raul]

I take it Trig is away atm??

 

[Kopped]

Seems the £50 increase is the truth!

 

[axel smeets]

Where have you seen that?

 

[Kopped]

BIFF member on BladesMad has confirmed that there is more than a ring of truth to it. Seeing as they had a meeting tonight, it's quite the truth:

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2118214008

post 74

 

[axel smeets]

BIFF member on BladesMad has confirmed that there is more than a ring of truth to it. Seeing as they had a meeting tonight, it's quite the truth:

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2118214008

post 74

If there's any truth in it at all, I think its unbelievable. What's going to piss me off the most is not so much the price increase, because I'll find the money, but the fact that it probably means I will now have to go the lane on my own now instead of with my mate.

 

[Vancouver]

Come on; this is classic marketing BS. It's very classic stuff which Apple use brilliantly. They leak a certain piece of information, see how the fans react to it and then make changes to the plan before they make the final announcement. Look how they did the original iPad. Pretty much everything had leaked before the launch but the price had sneaked at around $800. Obviously people weren't too impressed with this so Apple were able to react. If there is any veracity to the £50 rumours then I would not be remotely surprised to see it being part of a pre-screen. That said; which idiot needs to pre-screen a £50 price increase after we've not won in 12 games?

Oh; and Len, if you're going to go into Foxy's house it would be nice if you could at least try to be polite when you do it. I find it's often considered rude to criticise your guest at every step. Sure; disagree with him but there's no need (for most of us) to patronise with every post.

 

[lenners]

Sorry Vancouver, it's a forum where views can be freely expressed.
Now is not the time for any fans to be supporting a regime which has royally cooked the fans, been economical with the truth and damaged United to a state of complete disrepair.
Vive la revolution.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

why not wait for the prices to come out before attacking the club based on bollocks that came out on a facebook site.

You'll be believing we are going into Administration next based on what's on Owlstalk.

All will be revealed soon, no doubt and there won't be a £50 hike on renewals.

 

[Linz]

All I can see is people reading into rumours what they see fit... as ever.

And gentlemen, in line with what I said about sniping posts before, I shall start issuing holidays to correct the downright patronising, condescending and sneering attitude some people feel they need to adopt when responding on this forum. You will note from the rules that we ask you to use this tool we provide with respect. So regardless of who you decide to be a bitch to, you will find your ball taken away unless you play nicely.

Frankly, this site is now costing us too much money to be bothered about upsetting a few people who are forced to go elsewhere.

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Sorry Vancouver, it's a forum where views can be freely expressed.

Within the remit of the rules yes.

Now is not the time for any fans to be supporting a regime which has royally cooked the fans, been economical with the truth and damaged United to a state of complete disrepair.
Vive la revolution.

Ahhh... I just wasn't aware that you were the one who made the rules and decided who could say what!

At least now I know who all posts have to be approved by. I shall change the email address on the moderation queue right this instant...

 

[Trigger Blade]

I take it Trig is away atm??

Thanks for caring raul.

Yes, Trig is away with limited access, but I'm gratified to see that others have taken up the figurative cudgels with the message board mouse, who thinks he can play just because I'm not around.

 

[Bladesman]

Come on; this is classic marketing BS. It's very classic stuff which Apple use brilliantly. They leak a certain piece of information, see how the fans react to it and then make changes to the plan before they make the final announcement. Look how they did the original iPad. Pretty much everything had leaked before the launch but the price had sneaked at around $800. Obviously people weren't too impressed with this so Apple were able to react. If there is any veracity to the £50 rumours then I would not be remotely surprised to see it being part of a pre-screen. That said; which idiot needs to pre-screen a £50 price increase after we've not won in 12 games?

Oh; and Len, if you're going to go into Foxy's house it would be nice if you could at least try to be polite when you do it. I find it's often considered rude to criticise your guest at every step. Sure; disagree with him but there's no need (for most of us) to patronise with every post.

A £50 pound increase is about right for united. They dont do what Apple do and test the water because that would actually be a logical thing to do.

Information gets out and then on recent form the club make a complete arse out of the situation.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The club haven't leaked this its just someone making it up on Facebook.

There's no testing the water.

 

[raul]

Stop it Bob, it was on Facebook.....

 

[sheffielder]

The club haven't leaked this its just someone making it up on Facebook.

There's no testing the water.

Never been wrong our Bob either!

 

[super_pig]

atm this is all academic.. lets hope lenners doesn't have to come back and say 'i told you so' or some of you will never live it down

interestingly did you see wigans st price.. 269 quid.. astonishing.