Retired - Ryan France

[Wards]

Was the word from someone who told me at the match yesterday.

Biggest waste since Jon Ebbrell?

 

[alcoblade]

A shame for the lad if so, but the harsh reality is it's another example of us throwing £500,000 down the toilet. Either way, his contract is up at the end of the season and I'd hope if nothing else, Adams has learned a few lessons from his signings so far.

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[Yossarian]

Fucking get in there. We should never have signed him.

"Shame for the lad" my arse. The boy has earned more in his short career than many of us will earn over our lifetimes. I'd invite him to go invest it wisely and make it last.

 

[alcoblade]

Fucking get in there. We should never have signed him.

"Shame for the lad" my arse. The boy has earned more in his short career than many of us will earn over our lifetimes. I'd invite him to go invest it wisely and make it last.

OK, because he's not a great footballer I'm glad his career is over. I hope arthritis is setting in already.

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[Yossarian]

The two points were separate. He has spent a few years playing football, and got paid handsomely. It's hard to feel sympathy for the lad when he's sitting on a pretty penny - regardless of how talented he was.

 

[alcoblade]

I made a point that a player, or anyone, losing their career is a shame for them personally. I'd have thought that you were well aware that happiness in life isn't dictated by money alone.

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[Yossarian]

That is correct. It's nice to have money - enough of it to not have to worry about the next bill coming through the door - plus have time to spend with friends/family...

Let's put it this way. I'd love to have been able to retire at the age of 30. But I couldn't. So no, I don't feel sorry for him.

 

[shorehamview]

Search for Ryan France on Google Images. Be astounded by the small number of shots of him playing for United as opposed to the large number of pictures of his expensive looking wedding on Paphos. Be amazed at how where the money has gone. Be astounded that we ever signed him, other than as a nose-thumbing exercise aimed squarely at Wednesday. Be disappointed at how well that worked out. Be envious of his money and how he can afford to retire at the ripe old age of 30. Shake your head in amazement at the two years worth of wages he has basically stolen from Sheffield United. Be prepared to mock him should you ever see him in the street.

If ever a player summed up the last few seasons of Sheffield United it's Ryan France. A total disaster from start to finish. Signed to upset Wendy which backfired spectacularly, a crock from start to finish, and basically just another wage thief. He may be a nice lad but he's fucked us over for a grand total of ten appearances, six of which were as a substitute. Good luck with the retirement Ryan, and enjoy spending the money that you mainly didn't earn. If I ever see you I'll be asking if you're going to give any of the money you stole back to the people who actually work for a living.

Good riddance, fuck off and don't ever come back unless it's to apologise.

 

[alcoblade]

You're all heart fella...

He's retired from football, I'd guess. I'd be suprised (though not totally) if he never had to work again.


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[Yossarian]

Footballers are people who are paid thousands of pounds a WEEK to play a game - something that we'd all give our own grandmothers to be able to do. I cannot feel bad for them when the (inevitable) day comes when they have to stop doing it.

Besides, he seems a very intelligent guy. I doubt he'll go throwing it around willy-nilly.

 

[shorehamview]

You're all heart fella...

He's retired from football, I'd guess. I'd be suprised (though not totally) if he never had to work again.


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He's had two years of sitting on his arse for more money than many of us will see in a lifetime. Any sympathy for a player that has to retire early is generally based on how much he did for either football in general or the club in particular. Less than 150 first team league appearances in around 8 years added to the 199 for Alfreton in non-league while at University doing a degree in P.E. is not indicative of someone who has contributed greatly to the game.

 

[Rattly Noise]

He's had to retire early from a job that he probably loves. How many of us really experience that and have it taken away from us?

Although he has no doubt been paid well (and despite what you think, it's only the top Premiership players that get paid the ridiculous sums you hear in the papers) that money has probably got to last him an awful long time.

He's retired from football, not work, but what can he do? The dole queues and bankruptcy courts are littered with ex-pro's who make bad decisions.

It's no bed of roses for the majority.

 

[Yossarian]

Ok. Couple of things I want to point out there Rattly Noise.

Firstly, he's spent over 10 years doing "a job that he probably loves". For a start, that's more than many people get.

Secondly, let's do the maths. Let's conservatively say he's been on an average of £2,000 per week for those 10 years. That totals £1m. That can stretch much further than my lifetime's earnings.

Thirdly, he has a degree in Sport & Exercise Science and Mathematics.

I think he'll be fine.

At retiring age, footballers are much better positioned financially than most people in society to do whatever they want. If the majority of them are too fucking stupid to know what to do with it, that's not my problem, and it's not going to make me reach for my violin.

 

[alcoblade]

He's had two years of sitting on his arse for more money than many of us will see in a lifetime. Any sympathy for a player that has to retire early is generally based on how much he did for either football in general or the club in particular. Less than 150 first team league appearances in around 8 years added to the 199 for Alfreton in non-league while at University doing a degree in P.E. is not indicative of someone who has contributed greatly to the game.

Ah, so it's not a shame for the lad then. Perhaps if a plane crashes with his entire family on it, that will be a shame for the lad?

As I pointed out originally - he wont be remotely missed by us. He's been a disastrous signing. I'll still stand by the fact that losing your career is a personal shame.

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[JohnDenver]

SUFC employ a crock on big money. He had a medical. We offered him the contract.

Have a word with Blackwell not France.

 

[Yossarian]

As I pointed out originally - he wont be remotely missed by us. He's been a disastrous signing. I'll still stand by the fact that losing your career is a personal shame.

Not having to go to work, for me, would not be a personal shame.

Unless, of course, I was being paid thousands to sit on my arse all day long. So I guess I can see where you're coming from.

 

[Deleted member 2102]

Ok. Couple of things I want to point out there Rattly Noise.

Firstly, he's spent over 10 years doing "a job that he probably loves". For a start, that's more than many people get.

Secondly, let's do the maths. Let's conservatively say he's been on an average of £2,000 per week for those 10 years. That totals £1m. That can stretch much further than my lifetime's earnings.

Thirdly, he has a degree in Sport & Exercise Science and Mathematics.

I think he'll be fine.

At retiring age, footballers are much better positioned financially than most people in society to do whatever they want. If the majority of them are too fucking stupid to know what to do with it, that's not my problem, and it's not going to make me reach for my violin.

Lets do the maths shall we? He was signed for 15k from a non league side in 2003. I very much doubt that Hull paid him a great deal in the lower leagues for a non league signing. Probably was given an OKish contract with some bonuses for promotions. He was then sold when Hull reached the PL. Even if he has earned a million quid over his career. Knock off 30% for income tax. I assume he has bought a house. Lets say he is left with 500k (assuming he didnt go crazy and spunk his cash on luxury goods like food). What level of income will that buy for the next 50 or 60 years? Of course he will have to work again. You are all heart.

 

[Yossarian]

Like I said, those were conservative estimates. How much do you think he's taken from us?

Give me 500k and I'll be set for life. Like I said:

If the majority of them are too fucking stupid to know what to do with it, that's not my problem.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Give me 500k and I'll be set for life.

How long do you plan to live for? 10k a year for 50 years isn't that much.

There's the opportunity to invest of course, but doing the research, putting the money on, collecting the winnings or seeing them go up in smoke, and then filing the income tax return at the end of the year? I'd call that work.

You can't sit on your arse all day for 500k over the course of a lifetime.

But anyway, glad we'll be no longer paying him. Is he retiring now, or after his contracts up?

 

[sitwell]

How unfortunate that this site attracts some real life fuckwits ;-(

 

[Deleted member 2102]

Like I said, those were conservative estimates. How much do you think he's taken from us?

Give me 500k and I'll be set for life. Like I said:

You must have very little time left or meagre wants. Or you would have to carry on working. In any case the money we have given him is hardly his fault. Just another in a long line of shit signings.

 

[Yossarian]

How long do you plan to live for? 10k a year for 50 years isn't that much.

There's the opportunity to invest of course, but doing the research, putting the money on, collecting the winnings or seeing them go up in smoke, and then filing the income tax return at the end of the year? I'd call that work.

You can't sit on your arse all day for 500k over the course of a lifetime.

No. That's right. I'd use the money wisely. As I've said all along. It doesn't take an idiot to invest money into a business and get the right people to help run it. It doesn't take a genius to be a silent partner.

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How unfortunate that this site attracts some real life fuckwits ;-(

No, how unfortunate for those with opinions that don't lie in parallel with yours that they get labelled "real life fuckwits".

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In any case the money we have given him is hardly his fault. Just another in a long line of shit signings.

This I agree with. I wasn't blaming him. My point is that it's no big tragedy that he's no longer able to pick up large sums of money for doing something that we'd give up our mothers for.

 

[sitwell]

and you know I meant you because ?

 

[Yossarian]

Ok, it's unfortunate for those that share your opinion that you call "real life fuckwits".

I'm used to being insulted for arguing my case.

 

[Kev Gee]

He will also get a nice big insurance pay out as well.........

He will be fine

 

[Yossarian]

He will also get a nice big insurance pay out as well.........

He will be fine

You realise the correct response is "Oh no, poor little mite! What is he going to do?! The sky is falling in!"

 

[alcoblade]

You realise the correct response is "Oh no, poor little mite! What is he going to do?! The sky is falling in!"

Or, as per the original point, that it's a shame for him that his career is over.

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[Blade58]

Wonder if the injury that has forced his retirement, is the one that Wendy highlighted and ultimately used as an excuse for not offering him a comtract in the first instance?

 

[GlosBlade]

The real issue is the crazy contracts we give to unfit players, it seems to happen to us more than many other teams, and we don't half seem to pick up lots of injuries too...is it the training methods, the playing style, poor medical staff at the Lane.....the money we have p***ed down the drain since relegation is unbelievable.
And next season we'll still be paying Cresswells wages yet we'll almost certainly have had to ditch Ched because we can't afford to keep him. Not going to get better anytime soon this.

 

[alcoblade]

The real issue is the crazy contracts we give to unfit players, it seems to happen to us more than many other teams, and we don't half seem to pick up lots of injuries too...is it the training methods, the playing style, poor medical staff at the Lane.....the money we have p***ed down the drain since relegation is unbelievable.
And next season we'll still be paying Cresswells wages yet we'll almost certainly have had to ditch Ched because we can't afford to keep him. Not going to get better anytime soon this.

Ryan France was an awful example of how we'd lost control of the purse strings. He was a nothing player who was signed, seemingly, for no other reason than to stop Wednesday from signing him.

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