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FMBlade1 said:
I'm not a glory hunter, but I expect some ambition.

Why not? Leicester have managed to do both! Only 10 years ago they were in administration in League 1
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They managed to bag a multi billionaire owner. Don’t get me wrong they got success threw good recruitment and with an identity. But they could buy theirst choice targets.

Our new owner has pointed out on may occasions that he does not have the money to compete in the premier league and that is why we spend championship wages. We are a championship club.

Ambition for me is acknowledged for this and putting into perspective how amazing last year was and how predictable this year is
 



Eza Blade said:
They managed to bag a multi billionaire owner. Don’t get me wrong they got success threw good recruitment and with an identity. But they could buy theirst choice targets.

Our new owner has pointed out on may occasions that he does not have the money to compete in the premier league and that is why we spend championship wages. We are a championship club.

Ambition for me is acknowledged for this and putting into perspective how amazing last year was and how predictable this year is
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They were clever and looked abroad and got Kante and Mahrez than less than half the price of Ramsdale. Don't get me wrong it isn't as easy as that and they are the exception not the rule but would we ever make a signing like that?

And yes I agree we need richer owners, with that said it's not like Sean Dyche has ever got to spend 15 million pounds on a player.

Relegation is not something to get overtly upset about, humiliation is and could damage us for years like Derby and that's what worries me.
 
AWetFlannel said:
We are a small club, get over it. We're never going to win the prem or become a top 6 regular.
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We are not a small club we are in fact a middle of the road size club, we've had is it 62 seasons in top flight we've won it, won cup 4 times. A lot of teams would love our pedigree what we do have though, is the ability to constantly believe in ourselves.
 
I think there's an Inconvenient Truth. Some, and it tends to be older (I'm 62), supporters are grooved in. They've been going home and away for years of the donkey. With the same people. On the same supporters bus. Same seat on the bus. It's their routine. It's their structure. In some senses, they're the best supporters. Always there. Any ground. Any competition. Any day of the week. Paint Pot Cup. The lot. In a different sense, they're not supporters at all. Poor results annoy them slightly. But are soon swatted away. They'll claim otherwise, but results don't really bother them. I'm not having a pop at them. I'm just chronicling them. Hell, I recognise myself (although I don't (didn't) go to every game by a very long shot). Some would be more upset at not getting a Teamsheet than losing 3-0. The obsession, the counting, the ticking, the recording, the writing down overcomes them. They're the role models I caricature as the Carrier Bag Firm. No point to make other than - supporting a football club is a VERY broad church.
 
It's the hope that kills you. Once you accept that we are an above average sized club that has generally yoyo'd between the top 2 divisions for most of our 130 odd year existence and not won a sausage in nigh on 100 years then stuff like this season is just another lashing of the whip. It hurts no more than 1975/76 or 1980/81. It certainly hurts a lot less than 1993/94 and 2006/07.

I'm at peace with it. I can't wait for next season - I really can't. I'm missing my pre and post match piss ups and curry (yes, I know, stereotypical or what, but I can't help it) like a baby misses his momma's tiddy.

No screaming abdabs for me, just a longing to be at BDTBL again 😍😍
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
I think there's an Inconvenient Truth. Some, and it tends to be older (I'm 62), supporters are grooved in. They've been going home and away for years of the donkey. With the same people. On the same supporters bus. Same seat on the bus. It's their routine. It's their structure. In some senses, they're the best supporters. Always there. Any ground. Any competition. Any day of the week. Paint Pot Cup. The lot. In a different sense, they're not supporters at all. Poor results annoy them slightly. But are soon swatted away. They'll claim otherwise, but results don't really bother them. I'm not having a pop at them. I'm just chronicling them. Hell, I recognise myself (although I don't (didn't) go to every game by a very long shot). Some would be more upset at not getting a Teamsheet than losing 3-0. The obsession, the counting, the ticking, the recording, the writing down overcomes them. They're the role models I caricature as the Carrier Bag Firm. No point to make other than - supporting a football club is a VERY broad church.
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Haven't really got a clue what you are on about me old china, but I think I agree with you 🥴
 
Snake said:
It's the hope that kills you. Once you accept that we are an above average sized club that has generally yoyo'd between the top 2 divisions for most of our 130 odd year existence and not won a sausage in nigh on 100 years then stuff like this season is just another lashing of the whip. It hurts no more than 1975/76 or 1980/81. It certainly hurts a lot less than 1993/94 and 2006/07.

I'm at peace with it. I can't wait for next season - I really can't. I'm missing my pre and post match piss ups and curry (yes, I know, stereotypical or what, but I can't help it) like a baby misses his momma's tiddy.

No screaming abdabs for me, just a longing to be at BDTBL again 😍😍
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You make an interesting point, pretty much what you said you enjoy about the match day experience has little to do with what happens on the pitch.

For me, none of my mates are Blades, so what happens on the pitch takes on a greater importance because the social side isn’t there for me.

After this terrible season, I’m honestly not looking forward to going again. I’m just thinking there could be better ways to spend my Saturdays and better uses for the money it costs. Things might change after the summer, but going to football is a habit and the habit has been broken.

I suppose the point I’m making is that it will be interesting what attendances will be like once stadiums are back at full capacity.
 
Snake said:
Haven't really got a clue what you are on about me old china, but I think I agree with you 🥴
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I'm saying to your face. You are not a supporter of Sheffield United. You are a supporter of what Sheffield United have been. You are a supporter of what Sheffield United could be. You are a supporter of your own idea of what Sheffield United is. I'm saying it to your face, and specifically to you, because I've got the bottle to do that, when no one else has. You are a supporter of Sheffield United because it suits you. I know more about Sheffield United than you. But, bizarrely, you know more about Sheffield United than me. I support this thing I call Sheffield United. You support that other thing you call Sheffield United. That Sheffield United thing you support, and I say this after choosing my words carefully, is Shit. How do I know that? Because it's not the same Sheffield United thing I support. How dare I say that? When I don't know you from Eve? Because no two Blades have the same exact view of what they're supporting. So, I know you're supporting a different thing to me. But, called the same thing. Sheffield United. And I'll fight to my dying breath for your right to support that different thing. As we say in the trade......
Peace & The Vaccine
 
YES Blade said:
You make an interesting point, pretty much what you said you enjoy about the match day experience has little to do with what happens on the pitch.

For me, none of my mates are Blades, so what happens on the pitch takes on a greater importance because the social side isn’t there for me.

After this terrible season, I’m honestly not looking forward to going again. I’m just thinking there could be better ways to spend my Saturdays and better uses for the money it costs. Things might change after the summer, but going to football is a habit and the habit has been broken.

I suppose the point I’m making is that it will be interesting what attendances will be like once stadiums are back at full capacity.
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No probs pal, each to their own. I look at the positives ..... less people in attendance = easier to get a piss and a pie at half time. Everyone's a winner!
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
Hi Silent Blade
I've always been intellectually intrigued by that sort of view. With changes of ownership, management, location, colours, strips, badges, corporate structure, direction, strategy, administration, resurrection, etc there are so many things that can change within the outer shell of "Sheffield United" (for example).
I feel many fans see a line in the sand that they would not cross. For a strong eg, moving out of Bramall Lane is often cited as that line. But, as & when they get closer to that line - it just shifts & they will remain fans. There doesn't even have to be something/anything you actually like about the club, it's the can't put your finger on it "shell" that you're attracted to. For me, it's certainly not any manager or player or owner - they just come & go. I often muse about shit like this & your OP triggered yet more introspection - you bastard (smiley face thing)
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I think it’s an identity thing. For nearly any product, if you stop liking it, you just stop using it.

I liked Lynx deodorant when I was a teenager. Then I gradually stopped liking it, so stopped buying it and haven’t really thought about it for 25 years. Because it wasn’t something that I closely identified with; it was just something that I used.

Likewise, I used to have absolutely no interest in reading about history. Dunno why, but I quite like it now. No big deal - I haven’t changed in myself, I just like something more than I used to.

Supporting a football club is different though. It triggers some sort of evolutionary tribal ‘belonging’ gene. My brain is deceived into thinking that it would inevitable that I’d be a Blade - that it is genetic. If I’d been born in, say, Swindon to a family of multi-generational Swindon fans, I still can’t believe that I wouldn’t have somehow been drawn to Bramall Lane to find my true place. Because that’s the ‘me’ that I’ve always known. We probably are evolutionary wired to get that feeling of belonging and, for some reason, football seems to tap into it very easily. I don’t get the same feeling from Seabrooke’s crisps, nice though they are. I don’t even get get it from the other sport that I love - cricket. I’m quite happy to enjoy cricket at face value, and never feel that it’s ‘me’.

Possibly the only other thing that gets close to it for me is the music that I listened to as a teenager. That felt very tribal, and I’ll still passionately defend any of my old favourite bands, even if I don’t enjoy listening to them now.
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
I'm saying to your face. You are not a supporter of Sheffield United. You are a supporter of what Sheffield United have been. You are a supporter of what Sheffield United could be. You are a supporter of your own idea of what Sheffield United is. I'm saying it to your face, and specifically to you, because I've got the bottle to do that, when no one else has. You are a supporter of Sheffield United because it suits you. I know more about Sheffield United than you. But, bizarrely, you know more about Sheffield United than me. I support this thing I call Sheffield United. You support that other thing you call Sheffield United. That Sheffield United thing you support, and I say this after choosing my words carefully, is Shit. How do I know that? Because it's not the same Sheffield United thing I support. How dare I say that? When I don't know you from Eve? Because no two Blades have the same exact view of what they're supporting. So, I know you're supporting a different thing to me. But, called the same thing. Sheffield United. And I'll fight to my dying breath for your right to support that different thing. As we say in the trade......
Peace & The Vaccine
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Wise words mate. I've read some of your posts before and tbh what you do would bore me to tears - however, like you, I would fight for your right to do it. I also don't judge you for doing it. Diversity and odd balls (I'm referring to myself here) are what makes this world such a wonderful place.

Yours in Peace and Blades 🤝
 



Geordie Blade said:
I think it’s an identity thing. For nearly any product, if you stop liking it, you just stop using it.

I liked Lynx deodorant when I was a teenager. Then I gradually stopped liking it, so stopped buying it and haven’t really thought about it for 25 years. Because it wasn’t something that I closely identified with; it was just something that I used.

Likewise, I used to have absolutely no interest in reading about history. Dunno why, but I quite like it now. No big deal - I haven’t changed in myself, I just like something more than I used to.

Supporting a football club is different though. It triggers some sort of evolutionary tribal ‘belonging’ gene. My brain is deceived into thinking that it would inevitable that I’d be a Blade - that it is genetic. If I’d been born in, say, Swindon to a family of multi-generational Swindon fans, I still can’t believe that I wouldn’t have somehow been drawn to Bramall Lane to find my true place. Because that’s the ‘me’ that I’ve always known. We probably are evolutionary wired to get that feeling of belonging and, for some reason, football seems to tap into it very easily. I don’t get the same feeling from Seabrooke’s crisps, nice though they are. I don’t even get get it from the other sport that I love - cricket. I’m quite happy to enjoy cricket at face value, and never feel that it’s ‘me’.

Possibly the only other thing that gets close to it for me is the music that I listened to as a teenager. That felt very tribal, and I’ll still passionately defend any of my old favourite bands, even if I don’t enjoy listening to them now.
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Excellent Geordie Blade
When the UK had Mad Cow Disease, there were lots of old fellas trotted out on the Tele.
"I've always eat Beef me. And I always will. Nowt they can say will stop me eating Beef"

I used to shout at the Tele (love a TV Tantrum)

"Mate you used to love Beef that had been raised in a field up the hill, eating grass, your butcher basically bought the whole fucking thing when it still had a pulse & chopped it into bits in front of you"

"That's not the same Beef you're buying now. The Beef you're buying now has been fed on it's cousin's brain in a shed in Albania"

Even though it's changed dramatically, the old fella still thinks it's beef. That's how I feel about Sheffield United
 
Snake said:
Wise words mate. I've read some of your posts before and tbh what you do would bore me to tears - however, like you, I would fight for your right to do it. I also don't judge you for doing it. Diversity and odd balls (I'm referring to myself here) are what makes this world such a wonderful place.

Yours in Peace and Blades 🤝
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WE'RE ALL BLADES ARNT WE?
 
FMBlade1 said:
If you are failing at your work do you say to yourself 'well for 6 years I couldn't even read and write so I shouldn't feel so bad and put things in perspective'?
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My feelings on those six years aren’t relevant here. My point was it would be unfair to not reflect on our previous failings but another clubs achievements. And not just any club. One who defied all odds.

I don’t think much is changing. Irrespective of whether you want it to or not. The season is over. A lot of us don’t know how to handle this disastrous season. The only thing that can halt the decline right now is a break - a pre-season. We have terrible injuries at the back and midfield that isn’t PL standard. A new manager won’t change that. So if venting your anger on the internet makes you feel better then, crack on. But if Leicester winning the PL is your marker, then I’m afraid nothing much happening at our club is gonna improve your mood.
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
Excellent Geordie Blade
When the UK had Mad Cow Disease, there were lots of old fellas trotted out on the Tele.
"I've always eat Beef me. And I always will. Nowt they can say will stop me eating Beef"

I used to shout at the Tele (love a TV Tantrum)

"Mate you used to love Beef that had been raised in a field up the hill, eating grass, your butcher basically bought the whole fucking thing when it still had a pulse & chopped it into bits in front of you"

"That's not the same Beef you're buying now. The Beef you're buying now has been fed on it's cousin's brain in a shed in Albania"

Even though it's changed dramatically, the old fella still thinks it's beef. That's how I feel about Sheffield United
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Sheffield United - same as it ever was. Not what it was.
 
Mentions of Leicester in some posts. Interesting comparison. Silent Blade, may need your knowledge here.
I've said earlier this reminds me of 75-6 following our great 74-5 season. Us and Leicester had some very good players. Weller Sammels, Birchenall, the brilliant
Frank Worthington and they had Shilts among others.
Our team, best Blades I've seen, need no introduction. Both sides known for entertaining attacking play, players who maybe were overlooked International wise.
Both seen bad times after albeit Leicester not quite like us. Move on some years and enter Foreign ownership. Mandaric and his err. business brain sold to someone with money and a vision. New stadium (like BDTBL me) take punts on Steptoe, buy 'arry, attract players like Barnes and Maddison, sell 'arry, Kante, Chilwell, Gray for big money.
Win the EPL then sack the manager. Twat move but they've got away with it, or arrested a slide Now going toe to toe with the rest.
They ain't massive same as us but look at how it can be done. We've to handle it and get back in the saddle. Hard as it is, same old Blades, it's us.
Now let's see what our owners have got long term.
 
I do wonder when people say things along the lines of "that's me, I'm done" I can understand no longer going to all away games, no longer getting a season ticket, no longer getting to games regularly. I can't understand those who stop supporting a football team. It's not a choice, for me anyway. Although, it's probably more an addiction than love!
 
benn5712 said:
Mentions of Leicester in some posts. Interesting comparison. Silent Blade, may need your knowledge here.
I've said earlier this reminds me of 75-6 following our great 74-5 season. Us and Leicester had some very good players. Weller Sammels, Birchenall, the brilliant
Frank Worthington and they had Shilts among others.
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Leicester sold Shilton to Stoke in Nov 1974. Mark Wallington took over the gloves
 
Silent Blade said:
Leicester sold Shilton to Stoke in Nov 1974. Mark Wallington took over the gloves
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Yes Silent I know that thanks. Trying to explain the comparisons between us and LC.
Wish I could time machine all of todays Bladesmen back to the final minutes of that Walsall game in 81. It's what being a Blade means to me.
 
Silent Blade said:
You mean who did Leicester sign in Summer 1975?
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No. Around that period we were linked with some good players to strengthen and push on. Our board wouldn't/couldn't. Don't know about Leicester.
 
benn5712 said:
No. Around that period we were linked with some good players to strengthen and push on. Our board wouldn't/couldn't. Don't know about Leicester.
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We sold Salmons to Stoke in summer 1974 because we had rising debts in building the South Stand. in 1974 Furphy signed Garbett, Bradford, Field and Brown. In Summer 1975 Furphy wanted to sign Francis Lee but the board said "No" so we signed Chris Guthrie instead.

In 1974-75 Leicester signed Chris Garland, Steve Earle and Jeff Blockley but sold Peter Shilton. In the following season they signed Brian Alderson and Steve Kember
 



Never been a man who could supported 2 clubs, but I do understand why, some do, one club will probably be your local team the one you watched from being a kid, the other a very rich club that has enough money to do well in this division. because that is what this division is all about, MONEY.
The game is no longer about guts or, loyalty it's all about looking after one self in a game were you could be the man one week and then on the scrap heap in the blink of an eye .
So If it was your son playing for your club who had the chance to make it big, be famous and rolling in money with one of the top clubs what would you advise him to do ?
We may not like it but deep down we all know it's the truth that until we have that kind of money behind us we're just flogging a dead horse up here except for perhaps the odd fleeting season ,now and again.
 
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