So it's just a season back down?

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I presume you’re being sarcastic, because clearly we will be.

Players care about 3 things. Money, money and money. :)
None of which we have.. apparently.

And any money we do have needs to be well spent. And it seems we are incapable of that as well..
 



I really don't understand this view. Why wouldn't we be?
Humiliated in Premier League with a board sitting on it’s hands unambiguously watching?

Hopefully I’ll be proven wrong with the loans we get in this month.
 
None of which we have.. apparently.

And any money we do have needs to be well spent. And it seems we are incapable of that as well..
Spending it well is another story - and I’d agree.

I don’t buy that we’d have no money. We will also be offloading a few, and all the contracts will significantly diminish.

And we managed to do business well in the championship.
 
Current squad with a few exceptions mid-table Championship; and ageing. Transition period for next few years. But if not carefully managed, transition can turn into relegation and stagnation. More confident if Wilder stays to oversee, not some some Turkish manager from the Belgium league! UTB
 
Spending it well is another story - and I’d agree.

I don’t buy that we’d have no money. We will also be offloading a few, and all the contracts will significantly diminish.

And we managed to do business well in the championship.
And our best players (rare as they are) will be PL bait. Well.. that’s JOC if he regains fitness.
 
And our best players (rare as they are) will be PL bait. Well.. that’s JOC if he regains fitness.
They won’t, no chance. Other than Egan, because they’ve just disgraced themselves.

I think JOC’s long term injury will mean he gets another season with us. The risk is he’s not as good.
 
So who thinks we can go on like this, and then all of a sudden bounce back to the PL ''cos we've got such a good side and best manager ever'? I would, obviously, like to think that's possible. But I just can't see it happening. Do you? What possibilities for this scenario to take place there are, in your opinion?
I've posted a number of times already that I doubt we will be in a position to come straight back up.
I do not see how that can happen.
No squad of players, management team, coaching staff, etc. can do what we are doing, what we are serving up week in week out for months on end and come out at the end of the season without being battered, bruised, lacking in confidence and any sort of belief in themselves.
I thought Norwich were naïve, cheap-skates and pathetic last season - how wrong can you be.
 
Current squad with a few exceptions mid-table Championship; and ageing. Transition period for next few years. But if not carefully managed, transition can turn into relegation and stagnation. More confident if Wilder stays to oversee, not some some Turkish manager from the Belgium league! UTB
I think we’re a bit better than that - but we shouldn’t assume chasing promotion will be a forgone conclusion.

Not many players are over the hill, but they will be damaged mentally.
 
So who thinks we can go on like this, and then all of a sudden bounce back to the PL ''cos we've got such a good side and best manager ever'? I would, obviously, like to think that's possible. But I just can't see it happening. Do you? What possibilities for this scenario to take place there are, in your opinion?
I do
 
I've posted a number of times already that I doubt we will be in a position to come straight back up.
I do not see how that can happen.
No squad of players, management team, coaching staff, etc. can do what we are doing, what we are serving up week in week out for months on end and come out at the end of the season without being battered, bruised, lacking in confidence and any sort of belief in themselves.
Spot on. Sadly so.
 
People keep on holding Norwich up as an example of how we can bounce back but they didn’t spend £100m on new players.

We have and other than Berge, I don’t think any of them have improved the side that got promoted.

Yes we’ll get parachute payments but I don’t think next season will be as easy as some on here think.
 
People keep on holding Norwich up as an example of how we can bounce back but they didn’t spend £100m on new players.

We have and other than Berge, I don’t think any of them have improved the side that got promoted.

Yes we’ll get parachute payments but I don’t think next season will be as easy as some on here think.
I think our recruitment policy would have been far more successful if we had gone for 3 or 4 of that Norwich team.
 
Humiliated in Premier League with a board sitting on it’s hands unambiguously watching?

Hopefully I’ll be proven wrong with the loans we get in this month.
Humiliation in the premier league doesn't equate to becoming an unattractive proposition for potential signings. I'd agree that Wilder has a lot to prove with regards to making quality signings.
 
People keep on holding Norwich up as an example of how we can bounce back but they didn’t spend £100m on new players.

We have and other than Berge, I don’t think any of them have improved the side that got promoted.

Yes we’ll get parachute payments but I don’t think next season will be as easy as some on here think.
It won’t be easy, for certain. A few points though;

Norwich used the money to pay down existing debt. They didn’t bank it.

Berge didn’t improve us. In fact, his introduction into a perfectly working midfield facilitated the wheels falling off.
 
I wouldn't care if it's 2 or 3 seasons in the championship provided the foundations are right. We need to come up with a young side who show potential. That way we only add a few signings and if relegated again could cash in on a few players. We have spent a lot of money and not improved the team. And going down no PL team would by any of the team except maybe Berge. It's been too rapid a rise with panic and band aid buys.
 



I wouldn't care if it's 2 or 3 seasons in the championship provided the foundations are right. We need to come up with a young side who show potential. That way we only add a few signings and if relegated again could cash in on a few players. We have spent a lot of money and not improved the team. And going down no PL team would by any of the team except maybe Berge. It's been too rapid a rise with panic and band aid buys.
My graver concern, is that the rot worsens and we do a Sunderland.
 
My graver concern, is that the rot worsens and we do a Sunderland.
Fair point..It's a concern. But there is enough in the squad to be competitive provided the athmosphere is someway positive. If Wilder has completely lost it or a new manager unsettles the team by ripping things too much then yeah doing a Sunderland is possible
 
I do if we can keep the majority of the Squad and add 2 or 3.
Ramsdale
Baldock Bash Egan O'Connell Stevens.
Would there be a better defence in the Championship, especially when you add Bogle & Lowe plus Robinson.
McBurnie & Brewster have proven themselves in the Championship, plus we will have McGoldrick and even Billy.
I think Mousset will be sold, but if he wasn't then he only adds to our chances.
Now the Problem area Midfield.
Cannot see anyone coming in for Fleck or Norwood big question is can they rediscover their form.
Berge I think will leave has will Lundstram. So this is the area that will need strengthening.
If and when Relegation is confirmed we should be looking at the best midfielders who will still be in the Championship, we will have Parachute payments so should have a bit of money to spend we would arguably be the biggest attraction in the Championship(obviously 2nd biggest attraction if Wednesday stay up).
I have watched alot of Wednesday's games and the standard is not good, I honestly believe the side United put out today would be up at the top.
 

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