The System

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Should we change our system?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 15 13.6%
  • Yes but we don't have the players to change it

    Votes: 40 36.4%

  • Total voters
    110



Change of system yes. But change of approach even more vital for me.
 
How do you mean?
Thought it might be more positive with 3 forwards pressing from the front.

But turned out to be two of them dropping wide out of possession and not making contact again.
Wing backs didn’t get high up the pitch.

Boring defensive tactics that changing a system won’t help - even though I 100% believe the system should change also.

Yet again waited to go behind before changing to 4 at the back. Game was there for the taking.
 
We just did. We played 3-4-3 tonight.

Last week we started 3-5-2, then switched to 3-4-1-2 and finished that game playing 4-4-1. At the moment, we aren't good enough, no matter the system.
 
We just did. We played 3-4-3 tonight.

Last week we started 3-5-2, then switched to 3-4-1-2 and finished that game playing 4-4-1. At the moment, we aren't good enough, no matter the system.
No I don't mean playing the same formation then when you're losing you change it, that defeats the point.


Anyway, interesting to see only 3 votes for NO.
 
No I don't mean playing the same formation then when you're losing you change it, that defeats the point.


Anyway, interesting to see only 3 votes for NO.

But we started with a 10 today, which is a system change. So saying yes, is only agreeing with what happened anyway right?

Also, somebody tell me how a system change will improve the close control and passing of our players?
 
The structure and cohesion of the side was what earnt points last season.

There's not enough quality in the side to remove the understanding and try to 'outplay' sides with other systems.


It can get worse, these narrow 1 goal defeats can turn to 4 or 5 if you want to try and play more expansively......
There's not the forwards or creative players for it anyway.
 
But we started with a 10 today, which is a system change. So saying yes, is only agreeing with what happened anyway right?

Also, somebody tell me how a system change will improve the close control and passing of our players?
Ok, how about... Should be be playing 5 at the back?

Wes aren't keeping clean sheets and we can't open up any space up top. Logic would dictate that we need to switch momentum from back to front which we aren't doing. We're just sitting in with and extra(average) centre half.
 
But we started with a 10 today, which is a system change. So saying yes, is only agreeing with what happened anyway right?

Also, somebody tell me how a system change will improve the close control and passing of our players?
We thought we were playing a 10, but in reality Dids was being pushed wide and dropped deep in the 3. I was watching him like a hawk and he wasn’t playing 10. The first spell of possession from Everton had us revert to type and drop so deep that we struggled to get out at times.
 
A system that requires Jack Robinson to play is always going to fail. Play 4 across the back until we can find a proper left sided centre back. There is a reason Robinson was 3rd choice CB at forest.
 



We thought we were playing a 10, but in reality Dids was being pushed wide and dropped deep in the 3. I was watching him like a hawk and he wasn’t playing 10. The first spell of possession from Everton had us revert to type and drop so deep that we struggled to get out at times.
We started 3 strikers.

McGoldrick didn't play in a flat 3, so the system changed. It was a 3-4-3, McGoldrick was usually on on the right, Brewster and Burke rotated between being in the center and playing on the left.
 
We started 3 strikers.

McGoldrick didn't play in a flat 3, so the system changed. It was a 3-4-3, McGoldrick was usually on on the right, Brewster and Burke rotated between being in the center and playing on the left.
I saw it as:

———-——Ramsdale—————

——— Bash - Egan - Robinson ———-
Baldock——————————Stevens

————-Ampadu—-Osborn————-

—-Brewster———————-McGoldrick
———————Burke———————-
 
We started 3 strikers.

McGoldrick didn't play in a flat 3, so the system changed. It was a 3-4-3, McGoldrick was usually on on the right, Brewster and Burke rotated between being in the center and playing on the left.
Maybe so, but I was tracking his position intently first half, and in terms of how advanced he was, he was largely on a par with Osborn, granted a bit further forward. He certainly wasn’t playing the Duffy 10. Davies was consistently picking the ball off their centre halves, precisely where a 10 would/should be hassling.
 
I still believe 3 centre halves is a complete waste if at least two of them can't contribute to an attack. Midfield is overun and we're under the cosh immediately.
 
Finally seems that the new players finally understand the ‘system’ Ampadu steaming up the pitch the wing backs getting up and whipping decent balls in....is this a turning point!
 

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