CW to get sacked before the New Year?

[Upton_Blade]

Perhaps the most concise and plausible explanation of how things have turned out that I have read amidst all the recent WUMing, snarling and abuse.

Thank you.

I probably should have added lack of crowds as well as I truly believe it has affected us as much as, if not more than, any other team and helped bridge that difference in class a lot of the time last season.

 

[Upton_Blade]

Wouldn't be suprised to see Colley and Lingard approached.

Colley???

Not sure about Lingard on a perm in The Champ as wages would surely be an issue although rumours Man U are going to offer him a contract extension at the end of the season on reduced terms. With that in mind he might be a decent option on loan for the No10 role. Also not sure how CW would view his off field antics although we've already got McB and Moose in that bracket.

In fact if CW decides he has nothing to lose this season and reverts back to a No10 this year there would be worse shouts than to get him in January on a 6 month loan. Would probably do a decent job at RCM as well.

I still think our domestic loan in the JTW will be a LCB.

 

[BigBed]

Colley???

Not sure about Lingard on a perm in The Champ as wages would surely be an issue although rumours Man U are going to offer him a contract extension at the end of the season on reduced terms. With that in mind he might be a decent option on loan for the No10 role. Also not sure how CW would view his off field antics although we've already got McB and Moose in that bracket.

In fact if CW decides he has nothing to lose this season and reverts back to a No10 this year there would be worse shouts than to get him in January on a 6 month loan. Would probably do a decent job at RCM as well.

I still think our domestic loan in the JTW will be a LCB.

Who said perm??
Colley is a defender and Lingard a midfielder that can create something, and both would be loans.

 

[Ernest]

I’m a big Chris Wilder fan and in my opinion he is the best manager we’ve ever had, but with that being said, he needs to change the shape of the team if we’re to have a fighting chance of survival.

Without JOC, the 3-5-2 simply doesn’t work. We’re shoehorning players into positions they’re not able to adequately cover. It’s clear for all to see that we’ve exhausted all options in an attempt to keep this formation.

We’ve looked better when we’ve changed shape and played with a 4-3-3. We’ve surely got to give this a go from the off sooner rather than later.

I hope Wilder stays and is able to turn it around, but wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave before the end of the season...

 

[Le Cynique]

If your not behind the players, the manager and therefore the club, then get your coat and fuck off to S6!
See ya!

What an absolute load of fucking toilet. Criticism is our right as fans. If you don't think that any criticism should be allowed after the record-breakingly poor start that we've had, you need to have a word with yourself. And as for saying people should go and support Wednesday? Utter childish bilge.

Support does not equal unquestioning loyalty.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Yeah I’d put him on gardening leave and let some other prick take us down and take all the flack. Then we re-instate Chris in June, for the promotion push.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Bilic more likely than Wilder.

I heard some Chinese wispers.

 

[S40BLADE]

Yeah I’d put him on gardening leave and let some other prick take us down and take all the flack. Then we re-instate Chris in June, for the promotion push.

 

[BigBed]

What an absolute load of fucking toilet. Criticism is our right as fans. If you don't think that any criticism should be allowed after the record-breakingly poor start that we've had, you need to have a word with yourself. And as for saying people should go and support Wednesday? Utter childish bilge.

Support does not equal unquestioning loyalty.

Some of the shite being spouted is not "criticism", it's bollocks.
You eather support the Blades as a whole or you don't, if your not behind the team then your not a Blade.
I understand criticism of the tactics, of the way we've played, of the choices and selection, but calling for possibly the best manager we've ever had, who supports the Blades a million percent, and is a diehard fan of the club, a man that's probably hurting more than any of us on here at the moment, to be sacked and replaced, especially with some of the shite mentioned, is not supporting the club is it!
And if you don't support the club, why come on a forum for supporters?

 

[Le Cynique]

Some of the shite being spouted is not "criticism", it's bollocks.
You eather support the Blades as a whole or you don't, if your not behind the team then your not a Blade.
I understand criticism of the tactics, of the way we've played, of the choices and selection, but calling for possibly the best manager we've ever had, who supports the Blades a million percent, and is a diehard fan of the club, a man that's probably hurting more than any of us on here at the moment, to be sacked and replaced, especially with some of the shite mentioned, is not supporting the club is it!
And if you don't support the club, why come on a forum for supporters?

Sorry to break it to you bud, but you don’t get to decide what makes a Blade and what doesn’t.

As I’ve said before, we fans were here before the current management and owners and we’ll be here after too, hopefully. I don’t agree with a lot of the stuff that people say, but I’d never suggest that it makes them in any way lesser Blades. That bigger Blade card is reductive and divisive, and telling dissenters to fuck off to S6 is beyond pathetic.

 

[BigBed]

Sorry to break it to you bud, but you don’t get to decide what makes a Blade and what doesn’t.

As I’ve said before, we fans were here before the current management and owners and we’ll be here after too, hopefully. I don’t agree with a lot of the stuff that people say, but I’d never suggest that it makes them in any way lesser Blades. That bigger Blade card is reductive and divisive, and telling dissenters to fuck off to S6 is beyond pathetic.

Then we disagree.
I am no bigger Blade than anyone, do I support the club, yes, do I back the gaffer and the players, yes, do I agree with some of their decisions, no, but I'm not calling for the head of the man that got us to the prem eather!
You want to talk about pathetic.......that's pathetic.

 

[FMBlade1]

Then we disagree.
I am no bigger Blade than anyone, do I support the club, yes, do I back the gaffer and the players, yes, do I agree with some of their decisions, no, but I'm not calling for the head of the man that got us to the prem eather!
You want to talk about pathetic.......that's pathetic.

Whilst not yet in the 'Wilder out' camp, answer me this:

Should Leicester have sacked Ranieri?

The man who won them the prem, who was in charge with them in a relegation battle the season after

 

[Upton_Blade]

Whilst not yet in the 'Wilder out' camp, answer me this:

Should Leicester have sacked Ranieri?

The man who won them the prem, who was in charge with them in a relegation battle the season after

Such a poor example.

Leicester are owned by billionaires so could facilitate a change with the backup of being able to finance the next transfer window for whoever took over.

For all the "CW Out" crew PA is not in this position so IF he decided CW wasn't the man for the job anymore not only would he have a multi million £ payout to CW to finance he also doesn't have the finances to give the new man a sizeable recovery fund for the JTW.

So just to put it in simpler terms. The new manager would have the exact same underperforming squad (or some would say players playing to their natural level) with lack of crowds to up their performances and injury issues that CW is having to deal with.

Even though before this season I pretty much thought he was perfect and could probably walk on water if he wanted to no one can doubt that CW has made mistakes this season but I truly don't see ANY manager out there that would do any better in the current circumstances.

 

[Silent Blade]

Who said perm??
Colley is a defender and Lingard a midfielder that can create something, and both would be loans.

Who is Colley?

 

[BigBed]

Whilst not yet in the 'Wilder out' camp, answer me this:

Should Leicester have sacked Ranieri?

The man who won them the prem, who was in charge with them in a relegation battle the season after

More relevant, is, I don't support Liecester, so couldn't give a shit, I do support United, and think Wilder stays.

 

[FMBlade1]

Such a poor example.

Leicester are owned by billionaires so could facilitate a change with the backup of being able to finance the next transfer window for whoever took over.

For all the "CW Out" crew PA is not in this position so IF he decided CW wasn't the man for the job anymore not only would he have a multi million £ payout to CW to finance he also doesn't have the finances to give the new man a sizeable recovery fund for the JTW.

So just to put it in simpler terms. The new manager would have the exact same underperforming squad (or some would say players playing to their natural level) with lack of crowds to up their performances and injury issues that CW is having to deal with.

Even though before this season I pretty much thought he was perfect and could probably walk on water if he wanted to no one can doubt that CW has made mistakes this season but I truly don't see ANY manager out there that would do any better in the current circumstances.

Point was that Ranieri is as much as a legend there, as Wilder is a legend here, but parting of the ways was beneficial to both.

All Leicester did was put Craig Shakespeare in charge and they didn't sign anyone and stayed up.

Crystal Palace may be another example.

With Holloway they made a dreadful start, he resigned realizing it was beyond him and they stayed up.

De Boer was dismissed also a few years later, and guess what? With no new signings they also stayed up.

 

[BigBed]

Who is Colley?

Omar Colley, plays for Sampdoria.

 

[BigBed]

Point was that Ranieri is as much as a legend there, as Wilder is a legend here, but parting of the ways was beneficial to both.

All Leicester did was put Craig Shakespeare in charge and they didn't sign anyone and stayed up.

Crystal Palace may be another example.

With Holloway they made a dreadful start, he resigned realizing it was beyond him and they stayed up.

De Boer was dismissed also a few years later, and guess what? With no new signings they also stayed up.

And who do you suggest would keep us up if it isn't Wilder??

 

[Silent Blade]

Omar Colley, plays for Sampdoria.

Never heard of him

 

[FMBlade1]

More relevant, is, I don't support Liecester, so couldn't give a shit, I do support United, and think Wilder stays.

I hope he does also. The Leicester situation is an example though of a club legend's time being up, and his departure being a success for all concerned.

 

[FMBlade1]

And who do you suggest would keep us up if it isn't Wilder??

I don't know, I'm not an expert and I don't work in recruitment.

Sorry if that sounds flippant or weak, but it could be someone you and I have never heard of like Southampton's current manager (and indeed their previous one in Poch) who could impress.

We'd gets lots of applicants for sure.

 

[BobblesBlade]

What about Mark Hughes.

 

[BigBed]

What about Mark Hughes.

Or Bryan Robson maybe?

 

[Whiston Blade]

Or Bryan Robson maybe?

Does he like Peroni, of course he does. There will be a few crates knocking around CW's office once he's gone I'm sure.

 

[Chilttheblade]

And who do you suggest would keep us up if it isn't Wilder??

Not our job to find who would do better, it's the United Board 's job. Wilder has failed this season as a Coach but the whole organisation has to share the responsibility.

 

[corner_flag]

I'm beginning to think that the only thing Wilder did wrong was having more ambition than the owner and the board, taking us into the Premier League when the board had neither the wallets or the balls to do what was necessary to keep us there. How do you expect to recruit star players when you are paying less than the average PR consultant earns? And we expect our players to beat the likes to Saleh and De Bruyne but we are only prepared to pay them 10% of what those players earn?

Anyone who thinks the situation we are in now is due to failings by Wilder is an idiot.

 

[BigBed]

I'm beginning to think that the only thing Wilder did wrong was having more ambition than the owner and the board, taking us into the Premier League when the board had neither the wallets or the balls to do what was necessary to keep us there. How do you expect to recruit star players when you are paying less than the average PR consultant earns? And we expect our players to beat the likes to Saleh and De Bruyne but we are only prepared to pay them 10% of what those players earn?

Anyone who thinks the situation we are in now is due to failings by Wilder is an idiot.

Exactly!!

 

[Revolution]

I'm beginning to think that the only thing Wilder did wrong was having more ambition than the owner and the board, taking us into the Premier League when the board had neither the wallets or the balls to do what was necessary to keep us there. How do you expect to recruit star players when you are paying less than the average PR consultant earns? And we expect our players to beat the likes to Saleh and De Bruyne but we are only prepared to pay them 10% of what those players earn?

Anyone who thinks the situation we are in now is due to failings by Wilder is an idiot.

so Wilder is not responsible for this year’s recruitment, team selection or tactics?

Ok.

 

[corner_flag]

so Wilder is not responsible for this year’s recruitment, team selection or tactics?

Ok.

I think he is no more than about 30% responsible for the recruitment - the rest is the budget as that dictates which pool you are fishing in.
Like I say, the board lack the ambition to invest to keep us in the EPL. I think they'd rather drop and collect the parachute payments than invest in becoming a long-term EPL team.

Unless we pick up a LOT of points over the next 5, don't expect them to spend in January, in fact we may be selling

 

[Revolution]

I think he is no more than about 30% responsible for the recruitment - the rest is the budget as that dictates which pool you are fishing in.
Like I say, the board lack the ambition to invest to keep us in the EPL. I think they'd rather drop and collect the parachute payments than invest in becoming a long-term EPL team.

Unless we pick up a LOT of points over the next 5, don't expect them to spend in January, in fact we may be selling

you don’t spend the money we spent in the summer if you’d rather get relegated.