The fans today........

[bartman]

can someone explain

1.how booing Ched Evans when he comes on a sub at half time will imrpove his performance
2.how,with 10 minutes to go,shouting 'Quinn,I'm talking to you,I wished you would fuck off and die you ginger wanker' will improve his performance
3. how shouting at our goalkeeper'you're a clown just fuck off' will improve his performance
4. how booing players for having a shot will help a performance
5. how shouting racist abuse at Noz during the game will help his performance(stewards kicked him out when a few of us complained)
5.constantly booing when a player makes a mistake(they are human so will make mistakes) will help them

I can understand fans showing frustrations at the end of the game(and by the arguments and scuffles at the end of the game there were plenty of those) but it is almost as if some fans want players to perform badly.

I bet some were gutted when Quinn scored.

As for the game....poor game,two evenly matched(but poor) sides,Ertl and Bartley made mistakes for the goals,we didn't take our chances(the few that we had)

We desperately need a commanding,experienced centre half to play alongside Bartley.

I thought Britton and in particular Ertl were poor today.

 

[alcoblade]

Booing never helps. Asking people to pay £25 to watch Ched Evans (amongst a whole host of other cheaper but still nondescripts) rape another £20K off us never helps.

I agree with the thrust of your post. Sadly, we're at the stage where frustration will take over common sense.

If anything good came out of today it must have crushed any doubts that Ched Evans isn't a footballer, that Cresswell is either out of form or past it and force us into the transfer market. The center half requirement was presumably a given.

For once, Speed sounded positive on the requirement for new blood. Hopefully the penny has dropped above him.

UTB

 

[Wards]

It's because a lot of our fans are braindead morons

 

[Vancouver]

I think it's all part of the modern game sadly. In the same way as clubs changing their manager if they don't get immediate success the fans demand the same immediate success. I think this is a thing that will stay will us unfortunately... I'm wondering how long before people start shouting for Speed's head during the games. Can't be too far away.

 

[Oreyt]

It's because a lot of our fans are braindead morons

Abso-f***ing-lutely.

 

[SwissBlade]

I don't have an issue with fans booing the players, we pay our money and are entitled to voice our opinions...BUT not during the game. Half time yes, full time yes, but never during the match, it can never help.

Idiots shouting abuse at our own players is never acceptable.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

can someone explain

1.how booing Ched Evans when he comes on a sub at half time will imrpove his performance
2.how,with 10 minutes to go,shouting 'Quinn,I'm talking to you,I wished you would fuck off and die you ginger wanker' will improve his performance
3. how shouting at our goalkeeper'you're a clown just fuck off' will improve his performance
4. how booing players for having a shot will help a performance
5. how shouting racist abuse at Noz during the game will help his performance(stewards kicked him out when a few of us complained)
5.constantly booing when a player makes a mistake(they are human so will make mistakes) will help them

I can understand fans showing frustrations at the end of the game(and by the arguments and scuffles at the end of the game there were plenty of those) but it is almost as if some fans want players to perform badly.

I bet some were gutted when Quinn scored.

As for the game....poor game,two evenly matched(but poor) sides,Ertl and Bartley made mistakes for the goals,we didn't take our chances(the few that we had)

We desperately need a commanding,experienced centre half to play alongside Bartley.

I thought Britton and in particular Ertl were poor today.

you can go back through his season and find many similar posts. I personally was clapping like a seal today.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

We once went 15 games without a win under Bassett and the fans never went bonkers like they do now. Tsk, the youngsters today.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

there is a monumental difference between bassett and his era and this one.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

It's still the same old frustrating game LS2, with the odd fleeting joyous moment.

 

[Micalijo]

I don't have an issue with fans booing the players, we pay our money and are entitled to voice our opinions...BUT not during the game. Half time yes, full time yes, but never during the match, it can never help.

Idiots shouting abuse at our own players is never acceptable.

I know you are right Swiss but I really enjoyed hurling foul abuse at Cresswell, along with loads of others, after his pathetic attempt at an overhead kick in injury time. It's beginning to get nasty and it's a big shame but the club is turmoil

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

I know you are right Swiss but I really enjoyed hurling foul abuse at Cresswell, along with loads of others, after his pathetic attempt at an overhead kick in injury time. It's beginning to get nasty and it's a big shame but the club is turmoil

I've no doubt that Cressell is as tired of losing games as the fans. The abuse is therefore unwarranted.

 

[SwissBlade]

I know you are right Swiss but I really enjoyed hurling foul abuse at Cresswell, along with loads of others, after his pathetic attempt at an overhead kick in injury time. It's beginning to get nasty and it's a big shame but the club is turmoil

Seems like deja vu back to when people were wanting Blackwell out after losing 3-0 to a team that've gone on to sit at the top of the league....

Back the team, back the club!

 

[Micalijo]

I think plenty had made their mind up about Blackwell a long time before that.

I back the club with my season ticket holder even though I have a huge and still growing dislike of its owner.

Virtually impossible to get behind players who I think are incredibly poor and more importantly who are often owned by other clubs and who get paid so much compared witgh opponents (not that I blame em for that). Having said that, I really feel we have been unlucky to lose games today and against Coventry and watford. I know the defending has nothing to do with luck but I could argue we have shaded all three matches in alot of ways.

 

[SwissBlade]

Interesting viewpoint Mic, one which I find worrying but more worrying is that a lot of other contributors on here seem to share some of your views.

I really don't get this constant need for a scapegoat be it the manager, the coaches, the owner, the chairman, the loanees, the long term contracted players and recently the stadium announcer. I've grown tired of this side of the forum.

Many on here spend the majority of their time being critical of the flavour of the month, but rarely offer workable solutions. The fact is, like it or not, we are where we are. As I alluded to before, we as fans take a choice on whether we then want to pay our money to the club.

What I don't understand is that as soon as we scan our tickets and go through the modern electronic turnstiles, grab a fairly decent pint, take up our seats in our fantastic 32,000 all seater ground with big screen, private boxes etc that there are some that then choose to fire abuse at the object of their dissatisfaction. Surely its counter productive?

You made a major point in your post a few weeks ago (see link) about how good the support was up at Leeds, we weren't exactly great that day, but it didn't matter, we got behind the team regardless. Have things changed that much that you now want to vent your anger at players for wasting a chance?

http://www.s24su.com/showthread.php?20321-25-09-10-Leeds-United-v.-Sheffield-United&p=277774&viewfull=1#post277774

One last thing, whilst we have players on loan, from what i've seen, the likes of Bartley and even Nosworthy are giving 100% and are playing for their shirts as much as anyone has done. I'll get behind any player that wants to play for his shirt and gives his all for the team. I can't think of a single player at the club right now that isn't giving his all. It just ain't happening for us.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I thought the fans were largely excellent today in getting behind the team. When we were in possession and going forward there was a lot of encouragement around where I was sat and round most of the ground.

Yes there were moans and grumbles (to be expected) and the booing at the end was resounding but I sense that was more the supporters' way of getting a point across to the club, not the players.....

The supporters arent happy with what they're getting for their money and they are fully within their rights to show dissatisfaction.

 

[Micalijo]

Interesting viewpoint Mic, one which I find worrying but more worrying is that a lot of other contributors on here seem to share some of your views.

I really don't get this constant need for a scapegoat be it the manager, the coaches, the owner, the chairman, the loanees, the long term contracted players and recently the stadium announcer. I've grown tired of this side of the forum.

Many on here spend the majority of their time being critical of the flavour of the month, but rarely offer workable solutions. The fact is, like it or not, we are where we are. As I alluded to before, we as fans take a choice on whether we then want to pay our money to the club.

What I don't understand is that as soon as we scan our tickets and go through the modern electronic turnstiles, grab a fairly decent pint, take up our seats in our fantastic 32,000 all seater ground with big screen, private boxes etc that there are some that then choose to fire abuse at the object of their dissatisfaction. Surely its counter productive?

You made a major point in your post a few weeks ago (see link) about how good the support was up at Leeds, we weren't exactly great that day, but it didn't matter, we got behind the team regardless. Have things changed that much that you now want to vent your anger at players for wasting a chance?

http://www.s24su.com/showthread.php?20321-25-09-10-Leeds-United-v.-Sheffield-United&p=277774&viewfull=1#post277774

One last thing, whilst we have players on loan, from what i've seen, the likes of Bartley and even Nosworthy are giving 100% and are playing for their shirts as much as anyone has done. I'll get behind any player that wants to play for his shirt and gives his all for the team. I can't think of a single player at the club right now that isn't giving his all. It just ain't happening for us.

Totally different for me at Leeds Swiss. For me it was a load of lads going for a day out, proud of Sheffield and proud to be a Blade. I went for a few beers and a day out and loved it, loved the songs and loved the atmosphere but I didn't sense there was a huge feeling that the enjoyment of the day was governed by the result because we all know how bad we are. A goal at the end would have been the icing on the cake. I sensed it was a swansong for many Blades and Hillsboro apart I can't forsee any similar followings for many a year if ever, really mean that.

As Lenners says miles better than I could explain, BDTBL is now simply a meeting place. I didn't recognise a couple of our subs which is a massive first for me. The club is a joke.

But, and I want to stress this, I am still enjoying a Blackwell free zone and I think we have deserved at least a point in each of our last 3 home defeats. I totally agree that the players are giving their all and in that sense the booing is wrong but the frutsration is massive. Cresswell was wrong man in wrong place in that last minute incident. Simmo got it as well with his late free kick. Agree, plenty of songs from South Stand today, not loud as not many there but the support was there.

 

[lenners]

A bloke who has taken £4m to £5m out of out club and plays like that doesn't deserve to get booed?
Jeez, he deserves something much worse than that.

 

[bricktop]

Ched Evans was summed up perfectly for me in the second half. Ipswich keeper put the ball down to take a big kick up front, Evans was half a dozens away, he could have run in and tried nicking the ball of him, or tried to put him under pressure as he took the kick. He'd didn't, he slowly walked back up the pitch with his hands on his hips. It just shows me the level of effort this piece of worthless shit is putting in. He is an absolute fucking disgrace.

 

[beechblade]

Alot of the frustration that came from round my area was mainly aimed at the inability of our players to make a decent attack of the ball in the Ipswich area when a cross was played in. Or when we did have it in the Ipswich box players fannying around with it. (Ward trying to play keepy ups?) I personally didn't hear any racial abuse, and I'm glad I didn't, those twats can fuck off. But there was a clear frustration at the poor decision making of our players at times. Ched's missed shot was in my eyes as poor a decision as Wards shot last week, Cresswell aimlessly trying to do an overhead at the end when from my memory he looked to have time to correct his position for a proper volley or had time to drag the ball down with the shot. Or the fact that none of our attackers get in front of a CB, after the oppositions CB's have headed last few crosses with great ease and haven't looked to make the mistake of leaving it to drop.
Even Simmo has made poor decisions today, I know he isn't solely to blame, as they shouldn't have been in any position like that to get a shot away, but for me he had plenty of time to react to the second and maybe the first by closing the ball down, the amount of time he had with the second goal to move was amazing, he wouldn't have had to make a clear save but would have probably done enough to put their player off.

I'm annoyed with our wasted chances today, and I agree with Mic in the sense that I feel we have been very unlucky to lose in the last three games.

 

[cooperblade]

can someone explain

1.how booing Ched Evans when he comes on a sub at half time will imrpove his performance
2.how,with 10 minutes to go,shouting 'Quinn,I'm talking to you,I wished you would fuck off and die you ginger wanker' will improve his performance
3. how shouting at our goalkeeper'you're a clown just fuck off' will improve his performance
4. how booing players for having a shot will help a performance
5. how shouting racist abuse at Noz during the game will help his performance(stewards kicked him out when a few of us complained)
5.constantly booing when a player makes a mistake(they are human so will make mistakes) will help them

I can understand fans showing frustrations at the end of the game(and by the arguments and scuffles at the end of the game there were plenty of those) but it is almost as if some fans want players to perform badly.

I bet some were gutted when Quinn scored.

As for the game....poor game,two evenly matched(but poor) sides,Ertl and Bartley made mistakes for the goals,we didn't take our chances(the few that we had)

We desperately need a commanding,experienced centre half to play alongside Bartley.

I thought Britton and in particular Ertl were poor today.

It's hardly surprising though is it when even on here you get idiots coming up with hilarious names like 'Noswanker'.

I can understand frustration and disappointment but there seem to be a growing number on here who hate Sheffield United and the players. Personally I can't understand why you'd want to spend time posting on a forum about something you hate so much, very strange.

 

[Foxy]

It's because a lot of our fans are braindead morons

Nail on the head.

Whilst Quinny shouldn't get riled by the abuse he gets, it at least shows he cares... Why he'd get abused today when he actually played well until he tired late on, I don't know.

 

[Micalijo]

It's hardly surprising though is it when even on here you get idiots coming up with hilarious names like 'Noswanker'.

I can understand frustration and disappointment but there seem to be a growing number on here who hate Sheffield United and the players. Personally I can't understand why you'd want to spend time posting on a forum about something you hate so much, very strange.

Decent points and I'm glad you say you understand the frustration.

It's not hatred though is it? It's just heart-breaking to watch us paying so much as a club for so little.

Someone makes a good point on Mad for me that McCabe seems to be getting cash back for money that is either lost or tied up in pathetic property ventures. Fair enough him getting wedge back for football loans but I am adamant that the football has unduly suffered becasue of the property failures. People are cottoning on more and more to McCabe's bullshit and that is what you take as the hatred I believe. You probably have a point therefore but for me it's justified. Love United, hate McCabe as they say in Manchester - pretty close to truth for me.

 

[lenners]

The tipping point among the fans for McCabe is not far away.
We still care, he no longer appears to give a shit.

 

[WhiteHawk]

The fans at the back of the Kop really, really pissed me off at the end of the game yesterday. For 95% of the match they were behind the team (who I actually thought played quite well, Quinn especially so) but booing them was totally uncalled for. I was seething when they booed us for having a shot. Not sure who it was but the ball fell to him in the box and he only had one defender near him. He missed but at least it was a shot.

Absolutely no need whatsoever to boo yesterday. It was a decent performance and I thought we were just unlucky. Yet again the ball just wasn't falling for us.

 

[bricktop]

Think the booing was more of a general thing. I booed them off the pitch and lambasted Richard Cresswell for his bicycle kick. There are a couple of examples of players seemingly not trying yesterday being reported on here, and i think that for all their faults the United crowd have given the likes of Ched Evans plenty of grace, but it is clear there is resentment building up towards the players.

They are part of the problem, they don't seem to want to know, don't seem to really care, and are getting handsomely rewarded for consistantly poor, lifeless displays and i don't think it is something that sits right with the crowd, and seeing things like Ched drifting wide so he doesn't have to do some dirty work is bound to cause friction amongst the masses.

 

[Northyorksblade]

You wonder though how long this run of bad luck is going to last. I still think, possibly naively, that we aren't that bad, just not getting the rub of the green. Each game I think our luck is going to change. The fact is, perhaps we are just completely rubbish. I'm hoping though that when we start a winnig run, our bad luck for the season is done with and we can quickly move up a very average league.

 

[Jostein Flo]

I can see it from both sides, I know that the booing and abuse is born of pent up frustration and a desparation for the team to do well and as fans we have a right to voice opinion.

However from watching the team it looks like the main problem is a massive crash in confidence, I do believe that the players we have ARE talented enough for us to do well in the division and the improvement in the style of play since Speed took over from Blackwell is noticable. There are times when the players look like they are trying to play the passing game that the crowd have screamed for, admittedly only in brief flashes in some games but we are capable of putting together some fluid, passing football. It's obvious we need fresh players to be true contenders for promotion but this squad should be able to cause any team in the league problems.

I don't buy that they go from good players to bad players overnight. Simonson is a solid Championship keeper but on Saturday his kicking was awful and he looked really shaky. The teams belief in themelves looks shot and I can't actually see where the fix is. The players are lacking confidence and not playing well, the frustrations of the crowd at the teams performance are voiced and this surely affects the players. I'm not laying this squarely at the feet of the fans but the booing doesn't help and the targetted abuse of United players is shameful.

 

[bottletree]

If some fans were to boo me for 90 mins constantly EVERY day for 4 or 5 grand a week i think i might be able to put up with it. In fact i would let them throw shit at me as well for the money them wankers are on.
But on a serious note i think these fans should do what i do. DONT FUCKING GO ANYMORE AND WATCH THE OVERPAID WANKERS.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

If some fans were to boo me for 90 mins constantly EVERY day for 4 or 5 grand a week i think i might be able to put up with it. In fact i would let them throw shit at me as well for the money them wankers are on.
But on a serious note i think these fans should do what i do. DONT FUCKING GO ANYMORE AND WATCH THE OVERPAID WANKERS.

Whilst I would probably be more diplomatic than that.....you cant really argue with any of that post.

---------- Post added at 08:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:33 PM ----------

You wonder though how long this run of bad luck is going to last. I still think, possibly naively, that we aren't that bad, just not getting the rub of the green. Each game I think our luck is going to change. The fact is, perhaps we are just completely rubbish. I'm hoping though that when we start a winnig run, our bad luck for the season is done with and we can quickly move up a very average league.

I'm afraid you are thinking naively. I dont mean any disrespect by that because I was of a similar belief a few weeks ago. I knew we werent good enough for promotion but I had convinced myself that we could steer well clear of trouble once we starting having a bit more luck. After watching the last three games I have reviewed that opinion and IMO there is absolutely no reason why we cant go down.

I've seen marginally better sides than ours (based on recent performances) get relegated with a whimper. We cant score, we're conceding soft goals, we're getting no decisions and our luck is out as well. All the ingredients of a side in big trouble.....and with the same players plus no change at board room level, I firmly believe we will be in the thick of a dog fight come May.