Slew

[DP8789]

He looked pacey when he came on.

Give him a try upfront, the rest of them are pulling any strings. i know he's only young and too much too soon can be dangerous, but it hasnt hurt is in the past with the likes of tonge, jagielka, the kyles. Ditch this annoying 451/433/450 formation and get playing 442 and get a left winger signed to take some pressue of yeates.

we need to keep de laet, drop calve and nosworthless and hope that jordan can stay fit.

up the blades.

 

[shorehamview]

I think keeping him as a substitute might be the answer at the moment, but certainly let him have a better run-out than seven minutes against Donny. If he does well after that then maybe start him, but dropping him in as the answer to all our goalscoring problems probably isn't the best solution right now.

 

[DP8789]

I think keeping him as a substitute might be the answer at the moment, but certainly let him have a better run-out than seven minutes against Donny. If he does well after that then maybe start him, but dropping him in as the answer to all our goalscoring problems probably isn't the best solution right now.

i agree it wont be the solution to our problems, no doubt about that, im just sick of seeing lacklustre performances from the usual suspects. atleast this lad will 'want it' and teams thrive of the performance of individuals.

 

[shorehamview]

I'd rather jab the fucker's in the nads with a cattle prod than anything else at the moment. It wouldn't hurt to give Slew more chance to make an impact though. half an hour, or maybe a whole 45 minutes. He's been knocking them in like nobody's business for the reserves apparently, and he can't do any worse than the current "strikers".

 

[wadblade]

we have already destroyed Evens confidence how log before we destroy Slew with these tactics

 

[DP8789]

we have already destroyed Evens confidence how log before we destroy Slew with these tactics

how have we destroyed cheds confidence, hes done that all by himself - less that 10 goals in 1 and quarter seasons, shite.

 

[Gibbo89]

To be fair to all our "forwards" they've had to live off scraps for the last season and a bit. Sure, if the rest of the team start performing and delivering and they still shoot blanks, then start talking about bringing in kids. Otherwise it's just gonna ruin them. The problem remains the same. Midfield just aren't good enough, individually or as a unit, whatever formation we play. They can't deliver quality to the forwards and they can't protect the defence.

 

[S64 Blade]

Our current formation only really works, in my opinion, with a relatively pacey and skillfull striker to link up with the two wide men. The feature being - they have to be very good to make it work (Tezez at City for example), otherwise the two centre halfs will have no problem winning the ball back. I think 442 would suit our current strikeforce much more - get the ball out wide and knock balls into the box for them to attack.

Regarding Slew, I wouldn't play him just yet. But he definitely needs longer time when coming on. Seven minutes isn't much at all, especially when we're playing bad.

 

[Railway Blade]

The problem we have got at the moment and the reason we are not playing 442 is Britton. 442 works with a Monty or Ertl and a more box to box player like Williamson but not really with Britton and Monty or Ertl because they are all defensive minded.

I get the feeling Speed sees a two with Britton and another as too lightweight, and unfortunately he is probably right.

So we are a bit buggered at the moment because all our midfielders are defensive minded, with the exception of Quinn, and a midfield two of Britton and Quinn doesnt bare thinking about.

 

[SwissBlade]

The problem we have got at the moment and the reason we are not playing 442 is Britton. 442 works with a Monty or Ertl and a more box to box player like Williamson but not really with Britton and Monty or Ertl because they are all defensive minded.

I get the feeling Speed sees a two with Britton and another as too lightweight, and unfortunately he is probably right.

So we are a bit buggered at the moment because all our midfielders are defensive minded, with the exception of Quinn, and a midfield two of Britton and Quinn doesnt bare thinking about.

I think you're right.

I think the way Britton plays he's too deep anyway. Perhaps he offers cover to the Morgs and Nos, but it seems a waste. Perhaps if Bartley were playing alongside Morgs then they could urge Britton to push on a little and play his keep ball/ neat pasing game higher up the field.

On sat, whilst Britton had talent (do you like how I got that in there) it was wasted so deep. I think McCall/ Speed would've pushed us forward if they were in that role...

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I disagree on the midfield RB. I would chuck the lad Slew in as well (why not?!) and set the stall out like this:-

Simonsen
Lowton, Morgan, Bartley, Jordan
Ward, Britton, Montgomery, Yeates
Slew, Cresswell

Subs: Wright, Calve, Nosworthy, Ertl, Chappell, Bogdanovic, Foster​

Britton is a good passer of the ball and will allow us to keep possession in the middle. Monty is the ball winner. They both have enough energy to get up and down so I see no reason why that wont work. They can both sit deeper while Ward and Yeates get forward on the flanks. All it means is we will have to focus our attacks down the wide positions.

I like Calve but he's far too cavalier at times and is dangerously naive when defending. I would give Lowton the nod at the moment. He's young and possibly a bit naive himself but he's learning all the time and is more likely to hold his position and give us more stability when we lose the ball.

Cresswell has been largely anonymous so far this season but I think if you're going to play Slew, you have to put rough and ready experience next to him. That (based on what ive seen this season) would be our best eleven IMO. Quinn and Evans dropped from the bench as they have been passengers as well for the most part. Only shock tactics will help them find their form.....nothing else seems to work!

 

[Eskimo]

I like that clarity SteelCity. I think much of the problem last saturday was people out of position. I dont think Nosworthy is a bad player I think he's better at right back and would possibly play him there instead of Lowton. I'd have Evans on the bench if he's fit.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

How did Swansea play Britton - was he one of two or did they play an extra man to accomodate him? He certainly passes the ball well, but in the position he played against Donny and the play was going past him down one or other of the wings most of the game. It also doesn't help him that if he pushes on one of our other players squanders posession - rendering him irrelevant as a defensive player.

If we were able to keep possession as a team I doubt we'd need a Monty - we'd just need another mobile midfielder. The reason that we need Monty, Quinn and Ertl is that most times we get the ball in the opposition half we give it away quickly, meaning we have to win it back, pressure and push people back. I'll put money on that being why we haven't had a penalty in ages too. How many times do we have a period of possession in and around the box - approaching the edge of the box yes - but in and around it no. When we get the ball in the box it's because we've forced an opening elsewhere and it comes in quickly with everyone racing for it or because we've launched it in.

This has been my hobby-horse for a while - I didn't see Sharp pulling up any trees on Saturday, but he was part of a very well worked first goal and scored the second from another clever move which opened space up for someone in the box. All he has to do is put it away when it arrives - a completely different game to facing your own team or running toward the corner flag 30 yards from goal.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I think you're right.

I think the way Britton plays he's too deep anyway. Perhaps he offers cover to the Morgs and Nos, but it seems a waste. Perhaps if Bartley were playing alongside Morgs then they could urge Britton to push on a little and play his keep ball/ neat pasing game higher up the field.

On sat, whilst Britton had talent (do you like how I got that in there) it was wasted so deep. I think McCall/ Speed would've pushed us forward if they were in that role...

I don't think the problem is that he plays too deep. I think the problem is the lack of decent movement in front of him, forcing him to lay the ball off sideways or backwards too often.

 

[super_pig]

> I think keeping him as a substitute might be the answer
why?.. give him a go.. i can't see the fans getting on his back.. the reason they are on chedwyn's back is he cost a bazillion quid in transfer fees and wages.. i remember all of this when kyle naughton was coming through.. hoofwell would never pick him until Sun's kung fu kick forced his hand.. i don't get it.

>I like Calve but he's far too cavalier at times and is dangerously naive when defending
naah.. calve's form has dropped since yeates got into the team.. yeates couldn't tackle a cornetto

 

[Willie Carlin]

Iv'e seen Slew a couple of times for the reserves and to be honest he needs a little more time. I think Speeds doing a good thing by having him on the bench and involved in match day. Being on the bench is a learning curve and it's the same for with Kingsley James, although I do think they will make the step up to CCC football sooner rather that later. If more experienced strikers (Sharp, Evans, Boggy) have had difficulty adapting to the system so would young Slew.

 

[boo radley]

Easy does it easy does it

 

[blader]

How did Swansea play Britton - was he one of two or did they play an extra man to accomodate him? He certainly passes the ball well, but in the position he played against Donny and the play was going past him down one or other of the wings most of the game. It also doesn't help him that if he pushes on one of our other players squanders posession - rendering him irrelevant as a defensive player.

If we were able to keep possession as a team I doubt we'd need a Monty - we'd just need another mobile midfielder. The reason that we need Monty, Quinn and Ertl is that most times we get the ball in the opposition half we give it away quickly, meaning we have to win it back, pressure and push people back. I'll put money on that being why we haven't had a penalty in ages too. How many times do we have a period of possession in and around the box - approaching the edge of the box yes - but in and around it no. When we get the ball in the box it's because we've forced an opening elsewhere and it comes in quickly with everyone racing for it or because we've launched it in.

This has been my hobby-horse for a while - I didn't see Sharp pulling up any trees on Saturday, but he was part of a very well worked first goal and scored the second from another clever move which opened space up for someone in the box. All he has to do is put it away when it arrives - a completely different game to facing your own team or running toward the corner flag 30 yards from goal.

Swansea played Britton exactly where he played in teh first half a douzen games, which is when he was winning all the plaudits. Then there were calls (for no obvious reason) that said he should play further up the field. So now he has been pushed up and he is less effective. WHY DO WE NOT PLAY TO PEOPLES STRENGTHS??!!!

 

[broomhillblade]

I see that Slew scored for the reserves last night.

Taylor apparently had a good game, too, with assists for both goals. Maybe time to give him another go at left back?

 

[Revolution]

Taylor apparently had a good game, too, with assists for both goals. Maybe time to give him another go at left back?

No.

 

[JohnDenver]

Taylor apparently had a good game, too, with assists for both goals. Maybe time to give him another go at left back?

No.

Speed seems to have made his mind up about Taylor by signing Calve and De Laet. I think we've given the lad enough games to adapt, but he's not got any stronger or more confident.

He was worth a punt - nice left foot and could have developed into a steady performer. But it's surely time to move him on.

 

[SwissBlade]

Why do people insist on playing youngsters then when they have a few poor games during their development decide that they should never play again.

Christ give players a chance to develop

 

[Revolution]

Taylor has had more than a few poor games for us, I would say. This is not small sample size. He's out of his depth in our league.

 

[Kopped]

Lets put Slew in to start between now and Xmas and hope he gets 15 goals, then we can sell him to Bristol, Norwich, Donny, Ipswich or Leeds for £250K for our much needed Squad redevelopment.

 

[SwissBlade]

Taylor has had more than a few poor games for us, I would say. This is not small sample size. He's out of his depth in our league.

He's also still young, still developing and still bulking up...as well as gaining experience. You may well be right that he won't make it, but lets not put our faith in youngsters and then write them off after a bad season in a so called bad team

 

[Highbury_Blade]

He's also still young, still developing and still bulking up...as well as gaining experience. You may well be right that he won't make it, but lets not put our faith in youngsters and then write them off after a bad season in a so called bad team

If he was 21 or 22 i'd agree with you, but let's be honest how much better is he going to get at 24?

 

[Grecian2000]

One thing he isn't going to get is faster. Both the Kyles could make inexperienced errors and have the speed to recover. Taylor hasn't got that luxury.
Defensively he isn't good enough for this level and, as mentioned above, at 24 isn't likely to ever be so.

However, his use of the ball isn't that bad and he may have some sort of future as a left sided midfielder. We haven't the time to find out.

 

[JohnDenver]

If he was 21 or 22 i'd agree with you, but let's be honest how much better is he going to get at 24?

That's exactly the point.

If I saw signs of improvement I'd back him to the hilt. It saddens me to say I've not seen enough and the odds are strongly in favour it being too late for him.

Our recent signings suggest management have reached the same conclusion.

 

[Willie Carlin]

Taylor apparently had a good game, too, with assists for both goals. Maybe time to give him another go at left back?

No.

So you would like Calve and DeLait to keep playing fullback then ? These two along with Jordon have been responsible for us conceding goals like we have. Taylor is a far better defender than Calve who's defending's been atrocious.