Squad numbers 20-21

[Newbury Blade]

Eyes down ... after Lowe got 13, Bogle 20 and Ampadu 22, lowest numbers left are 14 (Ravel last season) and 24 (Leon last season).

Bogle's is the nearest to 2 and Lowe the nearest to 3, which makes sense as understudies to Furious George and Enda. Ampadu has got Mousset's old number (great to see Lys get 11 by the way).

I hereby predict Burke will get 14 and the mystery new striker will get 24.

Yes I realize that most people don't take much interest in this subject, but to OCD number-obsessives, and there are a few on here, it is important that the number matches the player. And what's more, Chris Wilder – more than any other Premier League manager – agrees.

 

[MCRBlade]

It really upsets me that Foderingham is #18. Since when do 2nd choice goalkeepers have #18??

 

[Gimli]

It really upsets me that Foderingham is #18. Since when do 2nd choice goalkeepers have #18??

I agree, why is Lowe 13? That’s the back up keepers number surely!!

 

[S40BLADE]

Hopefully Burke gets 24 (Number he had at Alaves) and new striker gets 14 because its closer to the 1-11 numbers that Wilder loves.

 

[mattbianco1]

Eyes down ... after Lowe got 13, Bogle 20 and Ampadu 22, lowest numbers left are 14 (Ravel last season) and 24 (Leon last season).

Bogle's is the nearest to 2 and Lowe the nearest to 3, which makes sense as understudies to Furious George and Enda. Ampadu has got Mousset's old number (great to see Lys get 11 by the way).

I hereby predict Burke will get 14 and the mystery new striker will get 24.

Yes I realize that most people don't take much interest in this subject, but to OCD number-obsessives, and there are a few on here, it is important that the number matches the player. And what's more, Chris Wilder – more than any other Premier League manager – agrees.

I would like 1, 13 & 22 as GKs (how it always used to be).

Then the remaining numbers as follows:

2 - 5 - 6 - 3
7 - 4 - 8 - 11
9 - 10
​

The back up players should get the equivalent number as per position, +10 (or 20) e.g.

12 - 15 - 16 - 23
17 - 14 - 18 - 21
19 - 20
​

Then:

32 - 25 - 26 - 33
27- 24 - 28 - 31
29 - 30
​

That would give us squad numbers as follows:

1. Ramsdale​
2. Baldock​
3. Stevens​
4. Fleck​
5. O'Connell​
6. Basham​
7. Lundstram​
8. Berge​
9. McBurnie​
10. Sharp​
11. Osborn​
12. Bogle​
13. Foderingham​
14. Ampadu​
15. Jagielka​
16. Egan​
17. Robinson. C​
18. Norwood​
19. McGoldrick​
20. Mousset​
21. .​
22. Verrips/Moore
23. Lowe​
24. Rodwell​
25. Robinson. J​
26. Bryan​

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Yes I realize that most people don't take much interest in this subject, but to OCD number-obsessives, and there are a few on here, it is important that the number matches the player. And what's more, Chris Wilder – more than any other Premier League manager – agrees.

I'm one of those is the 'it absolutely does matter' camp. Can't explain why, other than it just does. It needs to look right, maybe on a more practical level is also shows that we've got the balance of the squad right.

The classic example from last season is that Lunny wasn't and still isn't a 7.

It really upsets me that Foderingham is #18. Since when do 2nd choice goalkeepers have #18??

This. It's a waste of a perfectly good player number, a striker perhaps? Keepers should be 1, 13 and then anywhere in the 30s imo.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Saving 24 for when we buy Brewster?

 

[mattbianco1]

The classic example from last season is that Lunny wasn't and still isn't a 7.

I can let him off as he is our right sided midfielder. We don't play wingers so he can have 7 as the right side.

If we played 4-4-2 and we had a CM as #7 i'd not be happy.

Beattie wore #6 first season for us

 

[bromtom]

It really upsets me that Foderingham is #18. Since when do 2nd choice goalkeepers have #18??

Might have just been because he was first through the door and went "I'm having that"

Anything after 12 and my I'm more "make an effort to keep it as low as possible" so as long as we don't have any 66s or 44s (don't know how Carruthers got away with that) I don't mind, but I understand why people are slightly irritated. If we had a 9 at LB I'd probably protest in the carpark.

 

[Newbury Blade]

I would like 1, 13 & 22 as GKs (how it always used to be).

Then the remaining numbers as follows:

2 - 5 - 6 - 3
7 - 4 - 8 - 11
9 - 10
​

The back up players should get the equivalent number as per position, +10 (or 20) e.g.

12 - 15 - 16 - 23
17 - 14 - 18 - 21
19 - 20
​

Then:

32 - 25 - 26 - 33
27- 24 - 28 - 31
29 - 30
​

That would give us squad numbers as follows:

1. Ramsdale​
2. Baldock​
3. Stevens​
4. Fleck​
5. O'Connell​
6. Basham​
7. Lundstram​
8. Berge​
9. McBurnie​
10. Sharp​
11. Osborn​
12. Bogle​
13. Foderingham​
14. Ampadu​
15. Jagielka​
16. Egan​
17. Robinson. C​
18. Norwood​
19. McGoldrick​
20. Mousset​
21. .​
22. Verrips/Moore
23. Lowe​
24. Rodwell​
25. Robinson. J​
26. Bryan​

This would be perfect, I agree, but sadly we don’t live in a perfect world.
I still say that, had everyone been forced to play their 1-11 last season, we’d be preparing now for our Champions League campaign although we would have had to play 4-3-3.
Team with one sub, as in the old days.

1 Henderson

2 Baldock
6 Basham
5 O’Connell
3 Stevens

7 Lundstram
8 L Freeman
4 Fleck

10 Sharp
9 McBurnie
11 C Robinson

12 Egan

 

[PLAIN BLADE]

As long as Billy wears the prestigious number 10 , i could not care less .

 

[stringer]

3-5-2 absolutely plays havoc with 1-11 squad numbers (which absolutely do matter!)

 

[Kop sufferer]

It really upsets me that Foderingham is #18. Since when do 2nd choice goalkeepers have #18??

Goalkeepers along with many other traits and oddities are usually a superstitious lot so maybe the answer lies there.

 

[MCRBlade]

Goalkeepers along with many other traits and oddities are usually a superstitious lot so maybe the answer lies there.

As far as I’m aware, I don’t think I’ve seen Fod (or any other GK for that matter wear #18.

 

[Liaminho9]

I would like 1, 13 & 22 as GKs (how it always used to be).

Then the remaining numbers as follows:

2 - 5 - 6 - 3
7 - 4 - 8 - 11
9 - 10
​

The back up players should get the equivalent number as per position, +10 (or 20) e.g.

12 - 15 - 16 - 23
17 - 14 - 18 - 21
19 - 20
​

Then:

32 - 25 - 26 - 33
27- 24 - 28 - 31
29 - 30
​

That would give us squad numbers as follows:

1. Ramsdale​
2. Baldock​
3. Stevens​
4. Fleck​
5. O'Connell​
6. Basham​
7. Lundstram​
8. Berge​
9. McBurnie​
10. Sharp​
11. Osborn​
12. Bogle​
13. Foderingham​
14. Ampadu​
15. Jagielka​
16. Egan​
17. Robinson. C​
18. Norwood​
19. McGoldrick​
20. Mousset​
21. .​
22. Verrips/Moore
23. Lowe​
24. Rodwell​
25. Robinson. J​
26. Bryan​

Have we retired the Number 21 shirt in honour of the Bounce Killer?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Have we retired the Number 21 shirt in honour of the Bounce Killer?

Apparently the pigs have retired the number 12 shirt, in memory of the '12th man' and the 100s of thousands of pigs in attendance that day, who died of embarrassment at the feet of Duff.

 

[10-0 win]

numbers originates from 20's and 30's with the formation
1
2-3 full backs
4-5-6 centerhalves
7-8-9-10-11 forwards

pretty offensive formation by the 60's- 12 a sub, usually a forward then 13 sub goallie(much later)

the whole system rooted in the 20's is basically all gone, but for the numbers/position, this too is more or less gone in the modern game. All a bit nostalgic though.

 

[bongleblade]

24... 42 reversed

 

[SwissBlade]

10 will be free When Sharp goes to Derby tomorrow

 

[Balham]

3-5-2 absolutely plays havoc with 1-11 squad numbers (which absolutely do matter!)

Not really. Arguably works better than 4-4-2.

GK 1
RWB 2
RCB 4
CB 5
LCB 6
LWB 3
RCM 7
CM 8
LCM 11
ST 9
ST 10



Where do you put 3/4/6/8 in your 4-4-2? Brazil would put 3 as the RCB with 6 as LB (2-3-5-6). Some places would put 4 in the defence; others put 6 in there.

 

[stringer]

Not really. Arguably works better than 4-4-2.

GK 1
RWB 2
RCB 4
CB 5
LCB 6
LWB 3
RCM 7
CM 8
LCM 11
ST 9
ST 10

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Where do you put 3/4/6/8 in your 4-4-2? Brazil would put 3 as the RCB with 6 as LB (2-3-5-6). Some places would put 4 in the defence; others put 6 in there.

4 is a CM number that's in defence. 7 and 11 are wingers in central midfield.
4-4-2 is a numbers dream.

1
2 5 6 3
7 8 4 11
9 10​

 

[Newbury Blade]

Have we retired the Number 21 shirt in honour of the Bounce Killer?

No. Verrips is 21.

 

[Balham]

4 is a CM number that's in defence. 7 and 11 are wingers in central midfield.
4-4-2 is a numbers dream.

1
2 5 6 3
7 8 4 11
9 10​

How is that a numbers dream with 4 and 8 in midfield?? 4's a continental centre back (Koeman etc - I wore 4 as a goalscoring centre back at uni)

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[SouthEssexBlade]

When it was done properly

1 gk
2-3 fb
4-5 cb
6 cm
7 rw
8 fwd
9 fwd
10 cm
11 lw

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Fraser Forster at Celtic was 67.
Gary Hooper at Celtic was 88.

Has any player for SUFC had the 89 shirt?

 

[Balham]

When it was done properly

1 gk
2-3 fb
4-5 cb
6 cm
7 rw
8 fwd
9 fwd
10 cm
11 lw

I know you probably already know this SEB but as noted above, the numbers relate to the old 2-3-5 formation:

1 GK
2 Full Back
3 Full Back
4 Left Half
5 Centre Half
6 Right Half
7 Wing Forward (R)
8 Inside Forward (R)
9 Centre Forward
10 Inside Forward (L)
11 Wing Forward (L)

As the game progressed, the full backs were pushed outwards and two of the midfielders dropped into the back line - either 4 & 5 or 5 & 6. The same happened with the Wing Forwards who dropped back and became wide midfielders, leaving 8, 9 and 10 in the middle. 8 dropped back to join 4/6 in midfield and 9 & 10 became the centre forwards in the 4-4-fucking-2 formation.

If you're into the tactics side of it, Jonathan Wilson's (now slightly outdated) book Inverting the Pyramid is a fascinating read.

 

[Newbury Blade]

I know you probably already know this SEB but as noted above, the numbers relate to the old 2-3-5 formation:

1 GK
2 Full Back
3 Full Back
4 Left Half
5 Centre Half
6 Right Half
7 Wing Forward (R)
8 Inside Forward (R)
9 Centre Forward
10 Inside Forward (L)
11 Wing Forward (L)

As the game progressed, the full backs were pushed outwards and two of the midfielders dropped into the back line - either 4 & 5 or 5 & 6. The same happened with the Wing Forwards who dropped back and became wide midfielders, leaving 8, 9 and 10 in the middle. 8 dropped back to join 4/6 in midfield and 9 & 10 became the centre forwards in the 4-4-fucking-2 formation.

If you're into the tactics side of it, Jonathan Wilson's (now slightly outdated) book Inverting the Pyramid is a fascinating read.

4 was right half (Brian Richardson)
6 was left half (Gerry Summers)

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I know you probably already know this SEB but as noted above, the numbers relate to the old 2-3-5 formation:

1 GK
2 Full Back
3 Full Back
4 Left Half
5 Centre Half
6 Right Half
7 Wing Forward (R)
8 Inside Forward (R)
9 Centre Forward
10 Inside Forward (L)
11 Wing Forward (L)

As the game progressed, the full backs were pushed outwards and two of the midfielders dropped into the back line - either 4 & 5 or 5 & 6. The same happened with the Wing Forwards who dropped back and became wide midfielders, leaving 8, 9 and 10 in the middle. 8 dropped back to join 4/6 in midfield and 9 & 10 became the centre forwards in the 4-4-fucking-2 formation.

If you're into the tactics side of it, Jonathan Wilson's (now slightly outdated) book Inverting the Pyramid is a fascinating read.

Read it and it is interesting to see how WM evolved , and agree generally the only gripe I would have is that the 10 became a sort of playmaker from midfield, Currie, Hudson, Charlton, Netzer to spread the net wider.

Generally 442 would line up like this

 

[Blade56]

No 10 and 7 could’ve used for Dennis and Brewster if Billy goes on loan and Lunny won’t settle

 

[coaxingstar71]

13 is an odd one. I think it comes down to the superstitions of players. Some think it's lucky and others think it unlucky.

I have to admit I wondered about how a player ends up with their number. I assume they are asked if they have a preference or even ones they don't want and other than that the manager assigns them.

Wilder does seem to go with traditional values. Before he arrived, Brayford was wearing No.5 (which irritated me no end) and when Wilder came in, he reverted to No.2, which I can only assume was Wilders decision.