Ward Appeal

[boo radley]

GS says he is going to appeal because 'The lad was at least a foot away from making contact'. WHAT?
I find it amazing that he can take that view.
As I understand the rule NOW and recently re worded.
''Playing in a way that is likely to endanger an opponent''.

This means that if the ref judges the challenge so then it doesn't matter if he makes contact. Also the statement ''He got the ball first''. No longer is a defence and has nothing to do with the challenge Ward made on Saturday.
So if in the refs report it says ''playing in a way that is likely to endanger an opponent'', Ward is definitely out for four games.
If the ref in his report says that contact was made then there may be a slight chance as the other player could be called for simulation.

Either way hot headed ward needs calming down out of his 'prattish' behaviour. ''At least he shows passion'' is also a pathetic statement in relation to incidents like this.

 

[Kenilworth]

Absolutely correct Boo. It will be seen as frivolous.

It's also fair to say that Ward has that sort of reputation so he is now, very much, a marked man (even if Kill Kenny wasn't).

Not sure it will make that much of a difference anyway. He hasn't scored yet this season and is played in a position where he doesn't seem to influence the game enough.

 

[davidpinder]

He will get more games if there not careful.

 

[Worksop II]

Got to agree with all of that, though you have to wonder why the Leeds Player went down ........

Not the first time he has lost discipline and left us short, wait till we are 5 - 0 down before throwng a strop Jamie :thumbdown:

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Yep, seems a waste of an appeal to me and as can happen, he might get a further game on top. It was immediately post match so maybe Speed will have had second thoughts since then.

Even though he's not done a great deal this season, it does leave us even shorter in the pace department so let's hope the loan market will come up trumps this week.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

As far as I could make out, the only reason that he didn't make contact is because he missed. Flaw in technique if you ask me - he took his eye off the man and had a fresh air shot.

And if we're talking about simulation, anyone else think that Britton made a bit too much of his collision with Snodgrass. Far be it from me to defend any Leeds player, but a booking seemed harsh.

 

[Worksop II]

As far as I could make out, the only reason that he didn't make contact is because he missed. Flaw in technique if you ask me - he took his eye off the man and had a fresh air shot.

And if we're talking about simulation, anyone else think that Britton made a bit too much of his collision with Snodgrass. Far be it from me to defend any Leeds player, but a booking seemed harsh.

After seeing the Replay it looked a shocker, the Elbox of Snodgrass seemed to catch Britton Full in the Face, but if it had done he wouldn`t have got up.

Clearly Snodders "intended" to do Britton harm, just not mastered the art yet, bit like Jamie ......

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

As far as I could make out, the only reason that he didn't make contact is because he missed. Flaw in technique if you ask me - he took his eye off the man and had a fresh air shot.

And if we're talking about simulation, anyone else think that Britton made a bit too much of his collision with Snodgrass. Far be it from me to defend any Leeds player, but a booking seemed harsh.

No chance, it was a blatant bodycheck with his arm raised.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Both of them deserved to go, end of. Wardy went in two footed with no intention of playing the ball. He's one of my favourite players and I can be as biased as the next Blade but there is no excuse for that challenge. The intent was there.

Admittedly I didnt see Snodgrass' first booking so cant comment on that but the second yellow was fully deserved. Much like Ward's challenge it was cowardly and not within the spirit of the game. I'm a midfielder and love getting stuck in, but you have to be fair with it if you're going to go in hard. Barging into someone is blatant cheating.

 

[Moosie]

Ward did go in with intent, but he WAS miles away from making contact. Whoever it was on the recieving end (kilkenny?) had a sneaky look over to the ref then went down before getting right back up again.

Couldn't have been that much contact eh?

 

[boo radley]

Ward did go in with intent, but he WAS miles away from making contact. Whoever it was on the recieving end (kilkenny?) had a sneaky look over to the ref then went down before getting right back up again.

Couldn't have been that much contact eh?

So what are you saying ?
Ward should get done for '' playing in a way that is likely to endanger an opponent''.
and the Leeds player for simulation.

 

[moDtheGod]

I've just watched the BBC highlights and I've got to say, I was expecting something totally horrific. What's all the fuss about?

Their red card looked a bit soft as well.

 

[beightonblade]

Ward an the rest of em want a month or two down the pit at the coal face ........... that might make em wake up !

 

[Moosie]

So what are you saying ?
Ward should get done for '' playing in a way that is likely to endanger an opponent''.
and the Leeds player for simulation.

I'm in no way defending Ward as if he made contact it could have been alot worse for the player on the recieving end.

I'm sure we have a case to get it rescinded as it was a straight red and not a booking.

Have players been banned before for "intent"?

I know we have had penalties given against us for the "intent to foul". Yes I'm looking at you Mr Styles.

 

[Mousey]

As far as I could make out, the only reason that he didn't make contact is because he missed. Flaw in technique if you ask me - he took his eye off the man and had a fresh air shot.

And if we're talking about simulation, anyone else think that Britton made a bit too much of his collision with Snodgrass. Far be it from me to defend any Leeds player, but a booking seemed harsh.

He took a forearm to the face. It's a fair booking.

 

[broomhillblade]

Ward an the rest of em want a month or two down the pit at the coal face ........... that might make em wake up !

Them were't days eh Beighton! It used to be said that if Yorkshire needed a fast bowler they would whistle down the pit shaft for one.

Jimmy Hagan's dad was a miner AND played for Newcastle United at the same time. Sometimes he would go straight on to the pitch after finishing a shift. I'm sure there must have been plenty of others like him. Mind you, that was a long time ago.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Ward did go in with intent, but he WAS miles away from making contact. Whoever it was on the recieving end (kilkenny?) had a sneaky look over to the ref then went down before getting right back up again.

Couldn't have been that much contact eh?

You're missing the point. Contact has nothing to do with it. He jumped in with studs showing and in the modern game you cant do that. The rules clearly state that over aggressive or wreckless challenges will be punished.

If the opposing player had decided to put a tackling leg across Wardy he could have quite easily had his leg snapped. The referee has to send him off for dangerous play whether he makes minimal contact or not. That part is irrelevant. It was a cynical challenge.

You could do it 20 years or so ago, you cant anymore and a professional footballer should know that. Now we've lost him for three games. Very silly as it was unnecessary in that area of the pitch.

 

[Revolution]

You could do it 20 years or so ago, you cant anymore and a professional footballer should know that. Now we've lost him for three games.

Perhaps he can spend his suspension learning to cross a ball and learning not to behave like a little p***k on the field.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

So what are you saying ?
Ward should get done for '' playing in a way that is likely to endanger an opponent''.
and the Leeds player for simulation.

On a more general note - Diving Gerrard for example - the opponent should be booked for simulation if their going to ground isn't the obvious action to avoid the incoming challenge. The usual action (which we all see regularly) is players leaping over tackles to avoid contact - not going to ground which may actually run greater risk of contact. Styles was conned - as are many refs who've never played the game.

 

[super_pig]

can you be sent off for 'intent'?.. he didn't actually touch the lad if you watch the replay.. oh it's been asked.. sorry i can't remove this now.. that will teach me to read all of the posts before posting myself..

 

[Moosie]

You're missing the point. Contact has nothing to do with it. He jumped in with studs showing and in the modern game you cant do that. The rules clearly state that over aggressive or wreckless challenges will be punished.

If the opposing player had decided to put a tackling leg across Wardy he could have quite easily had his leg snapped. The referee has to send him off for dangerous play whether he makes minimal contact or not. That part is irrelevant. It was a cynical challenge.

You could do it 20 years or so ago, you cant anymore and a professional footballer should know that. Now we've lost him for three games. Very silly as it was unnecessary in that area of the pitch.

I'm not missing the point, as I said he did go in with intent. All I said was that there was no contact at all so can see where Speed is coming from.

So if it's unnecessary in that area of the pitch, just what area is that an acceptable challenge then?

 

[Micalijo]

Ward is a total idiot, a disgrace to the club and its fans. I have nowt but contempt for him. He is epitomy of the idiotic modern day footballer who thinks this aggressive, cowardly behaviour is the way forward. He is a dirty, cheat with no respect for his club or anything. Strong stuff I know - obviously don't know him but I am really wound up about it.

I'm disgusted that speed thinks we should appeal and I don't think the Leeds player faked anything. Someone has just tried to break his leg, he was committed and ended up on the ground, I think some part of ward caught his ankle and he sat up holding it, not rolling around in agony.

 

[super_pig]

micalijo.. after reading some of your posts i often wonder if you are on the right board.. do you like anything about Sheffield United? ;-)

 

[moDtheGod]

I'm going to say this again. What's all the fuss about? Seriously?

I've just gone back and watched it again, several times, as the reaction on here suggests I've missed something. It looks to me like he's running at pace, loses control of the ball a bit and tries to get it back. His eyes are on the ball and if you look closely, he totally flinches when he sees the defender's arm come out and he ducks out of the way, making the challenge even more clumsy.

Not having a go at the referee or anything, I'm not saying he's got it wrong but I am questioning the reaction on here, which seems ridiculously over the top.

 

[Micalijo]

micalijo.. after reading some of your posts i often wonder if you are on the right board.. do you like anything about Sheffield United? ;-)

Yep, loved every minute of Saturday - said so on match thread. Atmosphere in away end miles more important than the result, as was Soton's winner. Did you go? serioulsy it was brilliant. On the pitch at the moment - no, I like very little about SUFC.

All we need is another 42 ish points - will be close but we'll do it just.

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I'm going to say this again. What's all the fuss about? Seriously?

I've just gone back and watched it again, several times, as the reaction on here suggests I've missed something. It looks to me like he's running at pace, loses control of the ball a bit and tries to get it back. His eyes are on the ball and if you look closely, he totally flinches when he sees the defender's arm come out and he ducks out of the way, making the challenge even more clumsy.

Not having a go at the referee or anything, I'm not saying he's got it wrong but I am questioning the reaction on here, which seems ridiculously over the top.

The only thing over the top was Ward's disgusting tackle. Why does ducking out of the way come with a two footed lunge aimed at hurting their player?

 

[moDtheGod]

Because he's not lunged in two footed aiming to hurt the player?

 

[Micalijo]

Because he's not lunged in two footed aiming to hurt the player?

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one God.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I'm not missing the point, as I said he did go in with intent. All I said was that there was no contact at all so can see where Speed is coming from.

I cant. As I said before it makes no difference whether he makes contact or not. Its a dangerous challenge and the officials have to take measures to deter players from making them. You cant go in like that whether you touch them or not. So that makes the point in bold irrelevant with all due respect.

So if it's unnecessary in that area of the pitch, just what area is that an acceptable challenge then?

Its not acceptable anywhere. I didnt use the word "acceptable" you did. My point was that a desperate lunge in the opposition half is unnecessary because we are no imminent danger of conceding with men behind the ball. In other words it was easily avoidable and cant be justfied.

 

[moDtheGod]

How can you disagree with it?

Watch the tackle. He doesn't lunge in with two feet! This isn't opinion, it's fact! Just watch the tackle with your eyes!

As for the intention to injure him, neither of us can say, because only he knows. So we can disagree there, of course.

 

[Houso]

He certainly didn't go in two footed.

But it was a dangerous tackle and he deserved the red. Regardless of whether he caught him.

A player would get sent off for a missed punch, this is the same.