Wilder on next season

[Lane Ender]

£50 million for Fleck.

 

[BanderSerge]

I respectfully disagree.

I think McBurnie is an excellent striker, we need to create more chances for him. This is his first season at PL level, give him time and he will prove himself.

Respectfully disagree. Not enough pace for a start.

 

[10-0 win]

Our players are not static, one seasons experience, and still possible to improve as indivdual players. Berge,Osborn,Fleck ,Freeman and McBurnie still on a learning curve. In order to dominate games we do need players to hold on to the ball higher up. Next season may see us with different set ups in different matches more than this season. Also note: McBurnie do a lot of defensive work, numbers of important clearances on set pieces against this season. Like any athletes, even footballers improve year by year. Most of our players are better now than two years ago, even technique have improved. Bash is more skilfull than ever.

 

[FriethBlade]

Respectfully disagree. Not enough pace for a start.

If McBurnienpl played as a number 9 hed score a lot more goals. I feel our lack of creativity means he goes looking for the ball too much, stay in the box and get on the end of stuff, thats how you score more.

Re pace, we need more throughout the side but you can accommodate a number 9 who isn't quick if there is pace out wide...ask Harry Kane, Danny Ings and Chris Wood

McBurnie is not one of the players I'd be looking to replace. Build the team around Egan, JOC, Bash, Baldock, Stevens, Fleck, Berge (as hes guaranteed givwn his fee) and McBurnie. Its the other 3 positions we need to upgrade.

I'd definitely let Lunny go, enjoyed a golden spell first half of the season butnhes not worth a big contract and I want a.player in that position who can run with the ball and go round his marker not pass it backwards or sideways.

 

[BanderSerge]

If McBurnienpl played as a number 9 hed score a lot more goals. I feel our lack of creativity means he goes looking for the ball too much, stay in the box and get on the end of stuff, thats how you score more.

Re pace, we need more throughout the side but you can accommodate a number 9 who isn't quick if there is pace out wide...ask Harry Kane, Danny Ings and Chris Wood

McBurnie is not one of the players I'd be looking to replace. Build the team around Egan, JOC, Bash, Baldock, Stevens, Fleck, Berge (as hes guaranteed givwn his fee) and McBurnie. Its the other 3 positions we need to upgrade.

I'd definitely let Lunny go, enjoyed a golden spell first half of the season butnhes not worth a big contract and I want a.player in that position who can run with the ball and go round his marker not pass it backwards or sideways.

Not saying he isn’t good enough. What I’m saying is, if we want to move to the next level, next season, like CWAK do, he’s on the bench.

 

[Roygbiv]

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If McBurnienpl played as a number 9 hed score a lot more goals. I feel our lack of creativity means he goes looking for the ball too much, stay in the box and get on the end of stuff, thats how you score more.

Re pace, we need more throughout the side but you can accommodate a number 9 who isn't quick if there is pace out wide...ask Harry Kane, Danny Ings and Chris Wood

McBurnie is not one of the players I'd be looking to replace. Build the team around Egan, JOC, Bash, Baldock, Stevens, Fleck, Berge (as hes guaranteed givwn his fee) and McBurnie. Its the other 3 positions we need to upgrade.

I'd definitely let Lunny go, enjoyed a golden spell first half of the season butnhes not worth a big contract and I want a.player in that position who can run with the ball and go round his marker not pass it backwards or sideways.

Best spelling of McBurnie ever

 

[BanderSerge]

£50 million for Fleck.

If Norwichalona can ask £50m for a defender that can’t defend for toffee, £50m for Fleck is like giving him away for free!

 

[Houston_Blade]

McDonnell has been a rock .

Where does he play?!

 

[Bladesman]

Where does he play?!

Plays for the Labour Party I think.

 

[Paisley Blade]

When Lundstram comes on, the expression on his face tells me he thinks he's doing us a favour.
He can cough for me.

(I'm being polite)

Agreed. He's had the face on since Berge signed , his pointing at the back of his shirt routine took the gloss off his winner v Bournemouth as well ( retrospectively, I went apeshit at the time).

 

[Bladesman]

Agreed. He's had the face on since Berge signed , his pointing at the back of his shirt routine took the gloss off his winner v Bournemouth as well ( retrospectively, I went apeshit at the time).

Lunny was or is naive if he thought he wouldn't have competition for his place in the squad. Maybe he didn't like the way Berge just walked straight into the team which to be fair some of us did question that at the time.

 

[Danny Blade]

All players are replaceable .
I can see 8 to 10 going with Wilder showing a ruthless streak finished though to build on this seasons remarkable assault against 18 wealthier clubs.
The defence has shone out this season.
McDonnell has been a rock . The way the season had to end with the rapid games coming thick and fast proved to unravel us a bit . Our lack of experience in this league showed a bit. I reckon we lost 6 to 8 points as we lost our momentum and our game system unravelled and the flow we had only came out in 3 or 4 of the last 11.

We need some experienced players
But we need a goal finisher that will get 12 to 15 a season at this level above all else.

Have loved having Sharp and mcgoldrick
this season but it's time to move on. Both are another year older and we need more greyhounds than saint bernards

 

[Houso]

I'd personally not be averse to giving Bash three years. He's the fittest member of this team (perhaps alongside Baldock) and I don't see that dropping substantially for some time. When we find a mid-long term replacement, he drops to the bench and can do a job from there.

 

[Charlieblade]

Maybe I’m being a bit naive, but I can’t see what Luke Freeman has done wrong. Is his game time limited by lack of ability, or a spat with Wilder?

 

[Tezza1889]

Think we might start to hear more rumours of players wanting to leave, I didn't think at the time the Leicester criticism was a good idea given how the players have performed this season, calling them league one / championship players will have hurt them no end, they're in the top ten of the highest league, on relative wages to championship players, I think he's had more than one player pull him and now fears others will look for a move this window..

I thought for some time Fleck would return to Rangers, I can see that happening as we've just been dealing with them and playing osborn in flecks role.. Flecks name will have come up no doubt.

Mousse, lundstram and C Robinson are almost certs to go, Leeds and west brom for the English lads wouldn't be a shock..

I worry about Leeds, they do seem to take the cherries off our bakewells a little to regularly for my liking, and will be paying more in wages now than we are, only thing in our favour this time is biesla will look abroad, what'll go against us though is he's played us in the Championship, so knows how good JOC and Egan are.. We could survive with the back 4 we now have, theyre the ones needed for next season.. Keep it tight at the back and survival is more possible.

Wilder had hinted / said we are selling to strengthen, but I worry much less cause we don't get our pants pulled down with him in the negotiation seat, mcabe used to take magic beans, and snatch thier hands off..

Trust the gaffer, but I get the feeling he's insulted them after the season of thier lives.

 

[joe casey]

Maybe I’m being a bit naive, but I can’t see what Luke Freeman has done wrong. Is his game time limited by lack of ability, or a spat with Wilder?

Probably more to do with the fact that John Fleck has been one of best players all season and just as Fleck gets injured so does Freeman

 

[Bladesman]

Think we might start to hear more rumours of players wanting to leave, I didn't think at the time the Leicester criticism was a good idea given how the players have performed this season, calling them league one / championship players will have hurt them no end, they're in the top ten of the highest league, on relative wages to championship players, I think he's had more than one player pull him and now fears others will look for a move this window..

I thought for some time Fleck would return to Rangers, I can see that happening as we've just been dealing with them and playing osborn in flecks role.. Flecks name will have come up no doubt.

Mousse, lundstram and C Robinson are almost certs to go, Leeds and west brom for the English lads wouldn't be a shock..

I worry about Leeds, they do seem to take the cherries off our bakewells a little to regularly for my liking, and will be paying more in wages now than we are, only thing in our favour this time is biesla will look abroad, what'll go against us though is he's played us in the Championship, so knows how good JOC and Egan are.. We could survive with the back 4 we now have, theyre the ones needed for next season.. Keep it tight at the back and survival is more possible.

Wilder had hinted / said we are selling to strengthen, but I worry much less cause we don't get our pants pulled down with him in the negotiation seat, mcabe used to take magic beans, and snatch thier hands off..

Trust the gaffer, but I get the feeling he's insulted them after the season of thier lives.

He was praising them yesterday though, I think most the players know it was a shocking performance against Leicester. Wilder knows his players and they put effort in yesterday but it just wasn't happening in the final third.

The league 1 championship comparison was him just highlighting how you can look if you don't perform at 100% against a PL club.

Also, don't forget most of the dressing room wall is covered with quotes from pundits slagging the team off.

 

[bromtom]

Lunny was or is naive if he thought he wouldn't have competition for his place in the squad. Maybe he didn't like the way Berge just walked straight into the team which to be fair some of us did question that at the time.

If he didn't like Berge coming in at Palace, maybe he should have tried not being absolutely dogshit at Arsenal, meaning he was already dropped for Besic by then.

He was an absolute liability at that point, needed dropping.

I agree with another poster that said he looks like he thinks he's doing us a favour when he comes on. He plays a 10 yard backwards diagonal pass and looks like he's thinking "yep, I've sorted it out".

 

[Tezza1889]

He was praising them yesterday though, I think most the players know it was a shocking performance against Leicester. Wilder knows his players and they put effort in yesterday but it just wasn't happening in the final third.

The league 1 championship comparison was him just highlighting how you can look if you don't perform at 100% against a PL club.

I get that, but he's got to remember how far they've developed, and the teams they're facing aren't mugs, I know they've sold and weakened but that team won the league a couple of years ago... His frustration may have clouded his judgment, we know how quick "good lads" can turn into premadonnas with outrageous demands, look at lunny, bit part player stalling and wanting 60k a week apparently..

 

[Bladesman]

I get that, but he's got to remember how far they've developed, and the teams they're facing aren't mugs, I know they've sold and weakens but that team won the league a couple of years ago... His frustration may have clouded his judgment, we know how quick "good lads" can turn into premadonnas with outrageous demands, look at lunny, bit part player stalling and wanting 60k a week apparently..

Lunny has been like that for a while though. A few months of playing well, he or more likely his agent thought they could start calling the shots.

Wilder has set the tone over the last 4 years, start taking the piss and I will replace you.

 

[s4-blade]

Think we might start to hear more rumours of players wanting to leave, I didn't think at the time the Leicester criticism was a good idea given how the players have performed this season, calling them league one / championship players will have hurt them no end, they're in the top ten of the highest league, on relative wages to championship players, I think he's had more than one player pull him and now fears others will look for a move this window..

I thought for some time Fleck would return to Rangers, I can see that happening as we've just been dealing with them and playing osborn in flecks role.. Flecks name will have come up no doubt.

Mousse, lundstram and C Robinson are almost certs to go, Leeds and west brom for the English lads wouldn't be a shock..

I worry about Leeds, they do seem to take the cherries off our bakewells a little to regularly for my liking, and will be paying more in wages now than we are, only thing in our favour this time is biesla will look abroad, what'll go against us though is he's played us in the Championship, so knows how good JOC and Egan are.. We could survive with the back 4 we now have, theyre the ones needed for next season.. Keep it tight at the back and survival is more possible.

Wilder had hinted / said we are selling to strengthen, but I worry much less cause we don't get our pants pulled down with him in the negotiation seat, mcabe used to take magic beans, and snatch thier hands off..

Trust the gaffer, but I get the feeling he's insulted them after the season of thier lives.

Change them sheets

 

[Swannyblade]

If McBurnienpl played as a number 9 hed score a lot more goals. I feel our lack of creativity means he goes looking for the ball too much, stay in the box and get on the end of stuff, thats how you score more.

Re pace, we need more throughout the side but you can accommodate a number 9 who isn't quick if there is pace out wide...ask Harry Kane, Danny Ings and Chris Wood

McBurnie is not one of the players I'd be looking to replace. Build the team around Egan, JOC, Bash, Baldock, Stevens, Fleck, Berge (as hes guaranteed givwn his fee) and McBurnie. Its the other 3 positions we need to upgrade.

I'd definitely let Lunny go, enjoyed a golden spell first half of the season butnhes not worth a big contract and I want a.player in that position who can run with the ball and go round his marker not pass it backwards or sideways.

I agree with this assessment of McB - when he was scoring for Swansea and Barnsley he was playing at the top of the pitch, finishing chances created for him and being a general nuisance for defenders. Whether by design or circumstance, when he plays for us he's almost used as a target man (think Kevin Davies at Bolton) or he's dropping deep to help bridge the gap between midfield and attack. He should be in the box looking to finish the chances, not helping to create them. Too many times we play balls into the opposition's box and there's no-one there to attack them.
When I first saw McB at Oakwell when Barnsley beat us a couple of years ago, I thought he looked like a younger version of Billy Sharp - a real handful and a good finisher. I didn't think he looked like an upgrade for Gary Madine.
I think our problems could be solved by a tweak to the system, not an overhaul of personnel. The flat midfield three works well against the better, possession-heavy teams, but we look laboured when we're asked to break down a team sitting deep and vulnerable to counter-attacks.

 

[ben1987]

Maybe I’m being a bit naive, but I can’t see what Luke Freeman has done wrong. Is his game time limited by lack of ability, or a spat with Wilder?

He’s not done anything wrong. I think people think he may wish to move on to play more football. Personally I think he’s a great player and have done since he used to tear us a new one at Stevenage. If he decides to go looking for first team football then good luck to him imo, hate footballers who are happy to pick up a wave doing F all when they’re in a privileged profession most would die for.

 

[Keen Blade]

Just listened to CW's RS interview and am encouraged by the following :
"We need better players" & "more quality at the top of the pitch".
"Some of the current squad may depart in order for us to raise funds".

 

[Charlieblade]

Probably more to do with the fact that John Fleck has been one of best players all season and just as Fleck gets injured so does Freeman

Plenty of opportunities to use Freeman, when Fleck or Didsy we’re injured.
Maybe his face doesn’t fit, or Osborn turned out to be a better choice?
Not heard anything about Freeman’s injuries on here or anywhere else?
Can’t even be a rare Covid problem, because he’s been out too long.
Seriously, what’s the score with him? Everyone singing his praises when he stepped in for Fleck, earlier this season.

 

[Charlieblade]

He’s not done anything wrong. I think people think he may wish to move on to play more football. Personally I think he’s a great player and have done since he used to tear us a new one at Stevenage. If he decides to go looking for first team football then good luck to him imo, hate footballers who are happy to pick up a wave doing F all when they’re in a privileged profession most would die for.

Sounds more reasonable, thanks.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Our strikers have done ok but not sure teams like Southampton or Brighton are creating tons more chances.

We’re currently 7th bottom on goals scored. On xG, we’re 6th bottom. We’ve basically scored 3 fewer goals based on what would be expected with the chances we’ve had, which isn’t a huge difference really. We’ve conceded 10 fewer than you’d expect on the chances we’ve allowed. I think this is why Wilder is talking about improving the quality at the top of the pitch rather than creating more – getting in players to help us exceed what’s expected on what we’re already creating. We are the only team that aren’t matching or bettering their xG in the top 10.

 

[bromtom]

We’re currently 7th bottom on goals scored. On xG, we’re 6th bottom. We’ve basically scored 3 fewer goals based on what would be expected with the chances we’ve had, which isn’t a huge difference really. We’ve conceded 10 fewer than you’d expect on the chances we’ve allowed. I think this is why Wilder is talking about improving the quality at the top of the pitch rather than creating more – getting in players to help us exceed what’s expected on what we’re already creating. We are the only team that aren’t matching or bettering their xG in the top 10.

I expect that'll be a lot to do with us not attempting low xG chances, like long shots (I assume they're low xG chances).

I wonder how many we've scored from outside the box compared to the rest of the top 10, I can only really think of Moose Vs Man U off the top of my head.

Something to add to our game.

 

[Dublinblade]

Plenty of opportunities to use Freeman, when Fleck or Didsy we’re injured. - No there werent as he was injured for a lot / most of that time

Maybe his face doesn’t fit, or Osborn turned out to be a better choice? - I personally dont think Osborne is better form what Ive seen of them both, but mayb CW doesnt fancy him, thats certianly not the main reason hes been out though injury has been the main reason.

Not heard anything about Freeman’s injuries on here or anywhere else? - He hes had two spells out injured this season including being injured right now for most of project restart. CW said a "long standing issue has flared up" which indicates hes been struggling or suffering with something for quite a whilre possible from when he was first injured in and around Jan.

Can’t even be a rare Covid problem, because he’s been out too long.
Seriously, what’s the score with him? Everyone singing his praises when he stepped in for Fleck, earlier this season.

I expect him to be a bigger part in the team next year, I think hes twice the player Osborne is and if fit I think he could be a regular contributor for us next year. I dont see him going anywhere but I could be wrong.

 

[blade too long]

They gav

They have new 2 year contracts

And .... if they get bids they go