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At it again. Apparently it's the fans that instigated Blackwell's departure and Kevin McCabe needs to be tougher with us and not bow to our demands. Typical Samuels spin and anything to have a dig at the club.
 



mattbianco1 said:
The fans did instigate it! If all the fans were behind him, McCabe wouldn't have got rid
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More to do with the fans that weren't in the ground in my opinion, those chanting Blackwell out were mere icing on the cake.
 
WTF does the way the club is run and more specifically how the owner chooses to run the club have to do with Samuel?

Answer: Zilch!
 
Wow this is really well thought and well investigated piece of journalism. Is it not obvious that when a club (any club) plays like shite and loses games that they should win, then fans become frustrated and eventually call for a mangers head? This happens at nearly every club in the country when things aren't going as expected. Was Samuels piece entitled 'I AM A BIG FAT HAIRY TWAT AND THE NEXT FEW PARAGRAPHS ARE TO BE DEVOTED TO THE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS?' I doubt it but, and i havent read it but it sounds as though it should be. Shirt front.
 
Samuels

Samuels may be big and fat, and a hammer, but he is a football journo and mostly he makes good points. He is also correct on this one, that McCabes biggest mistake was not in hiring Robson, but caving in and firing him.
There is now an attitude amongst some Blades that they dont have to get behind a Manager, and they can just quietly sit back and judge, because they now have the power to get rid of him. Thats not healthy.
 
Had any other journo written this would there be really too much to disagree with on point no 1?
 
blademark said:
McCabes biggest mistake was not in hiring Robson, but caving in and firing him.
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If McCabe hadn't fired Robson, I strongly suspect we would be either relegated or out of business. Robson was not capable of managing to the budget constraints that Blackwell did, hence the exorbitant wages given to players in his time at the club. It wasn't sustainable without promotion and there was no way on earth we were going to get promotion under him.
 
Bath Blade said:
If McCabe hadn't fired Robson, I strongly suspect we would be either relegated or out of business. Robson was not capable of managing to the budget constraints that Blackwell did, hence the exorbitant wages given to players in his time at the club. It wasn't sustainable without promotion and there was no way on earth we were going to get promotion under him.
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Maybe so, but McCabe should have done it in a way that didn`t give the impression to the fans that "they" had got rid of Robbo.

Rod for his own back, and all that
 
Worksop II said:
Maybe so, but McCabe should have done it in a way that didn`t give the impression to the fans that "they" had got rid of Robbo.

Rod for his own back, and all that
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The only way he could have done that would have been to get rid of him earlier, before the fans became completely unanimous in their desperation to see Robson gone.
 
blademark said:
Samuels may be big and fat, and a hammer, but he is a football journo and mostly he makes good points. He is also correct on this one, that McCabes biggest mistake was not in hiring Robson, but caving in and firing him.
There is now an attitude amongst some Blades that they dont have to get behind a Manager, and they can just quietly sit back and judge, because they now have the power to get rid of him. Thats not healthy.
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I see your point, but people were calling for Warnock's head on various occasions in his tenure. Also, as a youngster, I remember reading letters in the Green'Un saying "I'm not going to the Lane until Bassett's gone". So I don't think McCabe has created this situation. Some fans have always been anti-manager and always will be.

The difference with Robbo was the sheer overwhelming force of opinion. That force was building for Blackwell, but was not at the same level when he got sacked. Most people were in the pub, not the carpark after the game. And the chants really weren't that nasty - just a few hundred voices.

So something else it at play here. Not sure what, but I suspect a combination of falling gates and Trevor Birch's input, alongside the building anti-Blackwell sentiment, were what led to his sacking.
 
We'd be a league below the pigs with Robbo in charge and his side kick Turry backing him up. The decision to hire him was so wrong and leaving us in a relagation fight proved it.

Sometimes the fans have to stand up and be heard. Blackwell wasn't driven out last season. i don't think we are fickle either but we won't have the wool pulled over our eyes whilst our very noble Chairman is giving the guy who delivered his cost cutting a chance to have another crack at it. Is it so wrong to be a gent?

The fans power comes from keeping our shillings in our pockets. This helped move Blackie on as did the poor start.

I think Speed will be given a fair crack at it and can't see the fans turning on him even if we lose 5/6 of the next 12. We need some stability and even us with opinions that may well run against the majority see that.
 



GRUMPY BLADE said:
was letting Warnock manage in the Prem
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dear oh dear!!!

And that was when i chose not to take your posts seriously anymore.

Sheffield United got relegated by 1 goal!!!! Not a point, 1 goal.

Should Blackpool sack Holloway? No.
If they get relegated, "Should they have?" No.
 
mattbianco1 said:
dear oh dear!!!

Sheffield United got relegated by 1 goal!!!! Not a point, 1 goal.
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Likewise, 2 seasons ago Sheffield United failed to get automatic promotion, by 1 goal, the one scored in added time by Birmingham in the first game of the season.

It's history.

You cannot fix history, but you can learn from it.

Now is the time to look forward, and get behind the manager, and HIS team, irrespective of what has gone before.
 
Well that's really what the article is about isn't it? He really can't let go!
 
"Kevin McCabe, the chairman, made sure of that when he dismissed Bryan Robson, while describing his performance as tremendous. 'I was disappointed our supporters couldn't be more patient,' McCabe said".

Does anybody actually remember McCabe making the statements that Samuels is quoting? I certainly don't remember them and neither does Google.
Maybe the big fellah made them up so he could write an article about it?
 
So what exactly is wrong with McCabe being in tune with its REAL stakeholders - the fans!
 
Micalijo said:
But he wasn't in tune with you was he? Thankfully he saw sense, evetually.
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No the timing was poor. However, I consider in fatty Samuels eyes I am the minority, otherwise it makes his article utter tripe...
 
SwissBlade said:
No the timing was poor. However, I consider in fatty Samuels eyes I am the minority, otherwise it makes his article utter tripe...
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True, I get that, but in one post you are saying there is nowt wrong with McCabe listening to the fans and sacking him, then you seem to side with Samuels who is saying that he should stick with managers when fans start criticising.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
 
I'm travelling at the moment so can't put my full comments across. But here is a shortened version for now.

Samuels has made a story without fact. But since he did it made me think that IF he's correct and the fans are to blame then it makes Sheffield Utd a real peoples club.

However I don't believe the fans influenced the decision directly. Season ticket sales will have contributed but I think there are other reasons for dwindling sales, such as the economy.

For me the timing of the sacking was 4-5 months late, but since the end of last season we look to be progressing. Perhaps Blackie was destined to fail, but 2 games in seems incredibly poor timing considering what's gone on in the summer.

The sacking appears reactive, but not to the fans, McCabe took more than this over Robson, so I can only conclude something else influenced McCabe and Birch to react. Perhaps well find out in time.

As for Samuels...
 
I'm travelling at the moment so can't put my full comments across. But here is a shortened version for now.

Samuels has made a story without fact. But since he did it made me think that IF he's correct and the fans are to blame then it makes Sheffield Utd a real peoples club.

However I don't believe the fans influenced the decision directly. Season ticket sales will have contributed but I think there are other reasons for dwindling sales, such as the economy.

For me the timing of the sacking was 4-5 months late, but since the end of last season we look to be progressing. Perhaps Blackie was destined to fail, but 2 games in seems incredibly poor timing considering what's gone on in the summer.

The sacking appears reactive, but not to the fans, McCabe took more than this over Robson, so I can only conclude something else influenced McCabe and Birch to react. Perhaps well find out in time.

As for Samuels...
 



Samuels has said before that he hasn't got an agenda when it comes to SUFC. How many other unfashionable northern championship clubs have been mentioned as frequently in his column since around April/May 2007?

Never mind, he's only a prime rib dinner away from a coronary.
 
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