Blackwell Quits

[bricktop]

[video=youtube;05qIlGX1F44]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05qIlGX1F44[/video]

 

[SwissBlade]

Now then Fiery,

I still don't get the difference, Blackie's arrogant because he apparently doesn't listen, but Speed isn't because he's the boss...and no mention of Speed being arrogant because he'll be using his tactics too...

You suggested Bassett and Speed, an untried partnership. Yes I picked the bits and bobs and made sarcastic comments... why? Because the thread was started in this way... by a poster called Fiery - Do you know him

Potential Improvements, I detailed this in other threads (i'm not sure if you were involved)but basically I suggested that the whol set up at United is changing positively. I didn't suggest player improvements on this thread, so you're assuming thats what I meant or are you just picking these bits and bobs to suit YOUR arguement.

This time last year, you're completely correct, but am I suggesting that the potential improvements are from 12 months ago? No, apologies if this mislead you to assume this (but it fits your arguement nicely). My belief is that the improvements have come from McCabe right down to the Academy in all aspects of the club and potentially footballing philospohy too. These improvements are based on where we were at the end of the season to now, not 12 months ago.

Whilst you mentioned players, I really find it astonishing that the comparative comments on players. I have two issues on this.

Players In - You can't possibly be ready to comment on players that've played two competitive games so far? Seriously? Same Owd Same Owd? Why?

Last Seasons Players - Some good examples there! Killa - had a poor season because his head wasn't there. Naysmith - was out for the season 12 months ago. Sharp - was loaned out all season, didn't get involved. Reid - Never featured either, loaned out. Howard - Awful, then sold. Really not great examples. Who knows how this seasons aquisitions will fair but so far the likes of Ertl and Britton probably had a bigger impact v Cardiff than the others you mentioned from last season. Same owd? Lets see shall we!

Hartlepool - accepted we were crap, but don't let the apparently decent performance of 10 men v Cardiff get in the way of your retoric.

To clarify, I'm not suggesting that Blackie is a great manager, far from it. However, the constant search for an arguement against him and the suggestions that you have made here are worrying to say the least. Your suggestions of a Bassett Speed Partnership confuse me. You want Blackwell and his hoofball out, but you want a mentor for Speed who's bread and butter has always been Hoofball! Surely a better mentor for Speed would be one who'd have a more expansive footballing brain rather than a kick and rush mentor, regardless of his preference for tactics.

 

[Bristol Blade]

Has the two matches to date pointed to anything being any different from last season ?
What makes you think things will be different this year:
We have a better goalkeeper this year - Valid Point
We have predominantely the same players Morgan, Monty, Quinn, Bartley, Nosworthy, Ward, Yeates, Cresswell, Taylor, Henderson, France, Williamson, Evans
We have added Britton (yet to prove) Boggy (yet to prove) Kozluk and Ertl - all free transfers
We have played the same tactics
We have again gone through a match v inferior opposition and managed just one shot and thast coming in the last minute
Forget lists and whose done it before - Blackwell hasn't had one game he's had nearly three seasons and the tripe served up now is getting worse by the week
He whinges and moans squad size, lack of subs on the bench, international matches, cup ties early in the season and listening to him before the game at Hartlepool - he'd lost it before kick off.
He will blame anybody and everybody except himself
He is an arrogant bully who is extremely fortunate to be in a job !

As you point out, we have the same core of the team as we had last year. Continuity has been one thing we have been majorly lacking for the past two seasons, and hopefully we will now be able to start playing a more settled side. Added to this we've made some signings which I feel make us stronger in defence and up front. Midfield, as always with us, could still be a problem, and Britton could be another Howard or Harper or he could be the creative link we have been crying out for for years; I haven't seen enough of him to judge yet.
As for tactics, I felt until the sending off against Cardiff we were passing the ball around well. Obviously after that we were trying to shut them out and protect our lead, which I don't feel gives us a good indication of how we intend to play in general. However, in our home games I expect to see us playing 4-4-2, with much more focus on passing and attacking through our wingers.
So for me there are signs of improvement. Admittedly they may be short lived, and by all accounts the Hartlepool match sounded terrible, but I would like to see Blackwell given more than two games to prove himself this season.

 

[Eckingtonian]

Blackwell did quit after the play off final shambles and Mcabe talked him out of it why?

 

[Fiery Blade]

Good reply Swiss - however I re-iterate that I used Bassett as an example ( a previous manager of Senior Status ) to help Speedo with the day to day trials of football management - not his long ball tactics

 

[SwissBlade]

Good reply Swiss - however I re-iterate that I used Bassett as an example ( a previous manager of Senior Status ) to help Speedo with the day to day trials of football management - not his long ball tactics

Yeah I know, but to continue to use Bassett fits my arguement better

 

[Pinchy]

Coppell, who has achieved immeasurably more in football than Hoof ever will!

 

[SwissBlade]

Coppell, who has achieved immeasurably more in football than Hoof ever will!

Probably so. But then again, glad we didn't get him in if his stint at Brizzle is anything to go on

 

[TonyAgana]

Coppell, who has achieved immeasurably more in football than Hoof ever will!

HAHAHAAAA!!!!! Good one, Pinch!

 

[Come from away]

Have we not added Nos, Bartley and Jordan to our squad? Think it is now a little deeper than many acknowledge and way too early to judge.

 

[SoccerCynic]

Bassett was not always so direct as the establishment would have us believe. I met him and he laughed at the notion and allowed them to continue with the thought. Yes, he used direct approach but , importantly, he used wide men to get in crosses from the bye line for Deane and Agana. We do not do that and rely on the target man for almost everything. This one dimensional approach will be ours, at KBs undoing. Thats my view anyway!

 

[JohnDenver]

Bassett was not always so direct as the establishment would have us believe. I met him and he laughed at the notion and allowed them to continue with the thought. Yes, he used direct approach but , importantly, he used wide men to get in crosses from the bye line for Deane and Agana. We do not do that and rely on the target man for almost everything. This one dimensional approach will be ours, at KBs undoing. Thats my view anyway!

Warnock was the same as Bassett in that regard. When they had better players, the style would improve.

But we shouldn't forget that both managers' default plan was long ball football. Forgivable only in victory.

 

[blades1889]

Bring Warnock back

 

[Come from away]

Last year at the Lane, Swansea passed themselves into defeat and out of the play-offs, no attempt to create pressure. There are times for being direct, so let's not make it out to be the Devil's tool.

 

[Grecian2000]

Last year at the Lane, Swansea passed themselves into defeat and out of the play-offs, no attempt to create pressure. There are times for being direct, so let's not make it out to be the Devil's tool.

Indeed.

I like a nice curry, but I wouldn't want to be force fed it every meal ad infinitum.

 

[Come from away]

Try watching the soccer, it does happen but other teams get in the way. I would think it wouldn't take much to figure how to knock a team off their game - which is why so many of the top games in our Division end up looking much the same. When one team loses the thread it gives another the chance to shine. Saw Necastle a few times last year and asked how the hell they could be the top team - but they were with ease. Teams are not created because they are picked, they need to gel, gain confidence, figure each other out. I was not happy with last year but it was not too hard to figure out why it was so inconsistent, and why in the end things just didn't come off. Even then we were close. This is what we are, a good Championship team and will be knocking the top ten by Christmas and will have a shot a the play-offs in the Spring. Some years it will go our way, most not. Enjoy what we are, if you want Man U, get on your bike.

 

[Grecian2000]

if you want Man U, get on your bike.

Deary, deary me.

 

[Come from away]

Love you too. How about a beer?

P.S. this was not a personal comment. I just think our expectations are too high and yet we refuse to acknowledge the high level of skill that is on the pitch (compared to us sunday footballers).

 

[SoccerCynic]

Of course there is a place for the direct approach. Even the top teams use it sometimes but it does not take long for a team to work it out if you have little else to offer. Us sunday footballers do not do it for a living and get paid good money to do so either. I accept that there are some skilfull players in the Blades ranks, the question is, who is best placed and qualified to exploit those skills.

 

[grafikhaus]

Sums up Unitedites, this post. Talk about 'glass half-empty' attitude.

I've talked to quite a few Blades this week who can't wait until tomorrow. 23-25k, sun (hopefully) shining and we'll see what happens.

Until NWs spell ended, we always had this 'back to the wall', 'no one likes us, we don't care' feel about us. We've had generations of being put down by the local media, but never let the bastards grind us down. So what's changed?

The piggies are relishing the challenge of this season, but no, not us! Of course, it only happens to United, doesn't it? Bristol City's manager has walked out, Blackpool stand on the verge of 9 months of pain and humiliation, several clubs are teetering on the brink, Man U can only stand and watch as their decades-long dynasty is overshadowed by Arab 'easy money', but it's 'poor old Sheffield United'.

It reminds me of the old Graham Taylor vid. 'Do I not like that'. In a press conference, Rob Shepherd (The Sun), said, "Graham, I'm worried that...". Taylor responded with "We know you're worried, Rob. Just don't make the rest of us fucking worried..."

So get down tomorrow, see what the newly-built Blades perform like and then come on here with the usual negativity.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

the best door stops are old ironing board covers.

 

[blades1889]

you could have really got my hopes up and said Blackwell quits and Stephen Quinn have been sold.

 

[bricktop]

you could have really got my hopes up and said Blackwell quits and Stephen Quinn have been sold.

You could really get the hopes up of the more sensible Unitedites and suffer from a terminal loss of internet connection.

 

[Bladesman]

If the title of this topic were true Id be on my way to the lane tomorrow.

 

[alcoblade]

I just think our expectations are too high and yet we refuse to acknowledge the high level of skill that is on the pitch (compared to us sunday footballers).

Were my expectations too high when I watched Hartlepool play us off the park the other night?

UTB

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Has the two matches to date pointed to anything being any different from last season ?
What makes you think things will be different this year:
We have a better goalkeeper this year - Valid Point
We have predominantely the same players Morgan, Monty, Quinn, Bartley, Nosworthy, Ward, Yeates, Cresswell, Taylor, Henderson, France, Williamson, Evans
We have added Britton (yet to prove) Boggy (yet to prove) Kozluk and Ertl - all free transfers
We have played the same tactics
We have again gone through a match v inferior opposition and managed just one shot and thast coming in the last minute
Forget lists and whose done it before - Blackwell hasn't had one game he's had nearly three seasons and the tripe served up now is getting worse by the week
He whinges and moans squad size, lack of subs on the bench, international matches, cup ties early in the season and listening to him before the game at Hartlepool - he'd lost it before kick off.
He will blame anybody and everybody except himself
He is an arrogant bully who is extremely fortunate to be in a job !

Where is that thank you button when you need it most!!!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

If Speed is the boss he would decide which tactics to use - as coach he can only advise - if Blackwell rejects his advice theres not alot he can do about it!As regards Bassett - I only used him as an example of a senior football figure with a vast experience of football management but as usual you don't read the full statement - Just pick bits and bobs and make sarcastic comments!
Anf Finally - Where are these potential improvements this year are we talking Kozluk
This time last year we had Kilgallon, Naysmith (albeit injured), Sharp, Reid, Howard, - Replace them with Ertl, Jordan, Britton, Boggy, Same Owd, Same Owd
Only improvement I can see is Simonsen but.......................................................
Remind me Swiss, Hartlepool fast flowing attacking football or Hoof it! I rest my case!

If he is not been listened to and just lets it happen he's never gonna be management material.

If he's saying nowt he's he's never gonna be management material.

Either way he's he's never gonna be management material.

Fuck Speed - part of the problem.