CONFIRMED Jack O’Connell injured?

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Stevens can't even control the ball anymore. What the fuck is that about?
What’s happening to us right now is one of the strangest turnarounds I’ve seen for a long time. We have good to very good performers now performing absolutely woeful.
 



Do find it weird how Wilder's not even said what type of injury it might be. Are we just going to keep on being told he might be back for next game until the end of the season. Feels like there's something more to it. idk.
 
Do find it weird how Wilder's not even said what type of injury it might be. Are we just going to keep on being told he might be back for next game until the end of the season. Feels like there's something more to it. idk.

Wilder has never been one for clarity when it comes to injuries I don't think. Remember when Brooks had tonsillitis (but would be back at the weekend hopefully) for about 10 weeks?

We'll just find out when he next appears, either training video or an hour before a match.
 
Wilder has never been one for clarity when it comes to injuries I don't think. Remember when Brooks had tonsillitis but would be back at the weekend hopefully for about 10 weeks?

We'll just find out when he next appears, either training video or an hour before a match.
I'm shocked our fans think they deserve to know the ins and outs of our fitness position. We're still playing competitive games and there is a whole load to lose, and nothing to gain with them telling you. Shut the fuck up, watch the team we put out and let the manager and coaches do their jobs.
 
I'm shocked our fans think they deserve to know the ins and outs of our fitness position. We're still playing competitive games and there is a whole load to lose, and nothing to gain with them telling you. Shut the fuck up, watch the team we put out and let the manager and coaches do their jobs.

Aye. It could give us an advantage if a team sets up a certain way or with certain personnel thinking we're lopsided before a wild JOC appears marauding down the wing.
 
This has probably been said loads of times on this thread, but Wilder expected him and Fleck to be in contention for the Newcastle game.

He cant be far off.
 
Liverpool offer.

Why would they? Just because he's Scouse doesn't mean Liverpool want him.

Does he get in ahead of Matip and Gomez alongside VVD? I wouldn't think that's guaranteed.
 
Why would they? Just because he's Scouse doesn't mean Liverpool want him.

Does he get in ahead of Matip and Gomez alongside VVD? I wouldn't think that's guaranteed.
That's a rumour doing the rounds, I've said on other threads, could be bollocks, probably is bollocks, it's a rumour simple as.
 



This has probably been said loads of times on this thread, but Wilder expected him and Fleck to be in contention for the Newcastle game.

He cant be far off.

I guess no one read post #454 where it says from the horses mouth if you watch the video. Correction apart from Bladesman :)
 
If there is an offer in for him, at least the club has already seen that we literally cannot function without him and will make a decision accordingly
 
If there is an offer in for him, at least the club has already seen that we literally cannot function without him and will make a decision accordingly
Just to be a bit factual, until John Egan got sent off we had not conceded a goal since the restart. We have conceded 6 without him. That obviously not taking away what JOC adds to our attacking options. Think Egan has been the bigger loss. Our only other game where we have conceded 3 was also without him.
 
Missing JOC and originally Fleck too must have a huge effect on Enda, not to the scale of completely forgetting how to play football like it has done but it was always going to hold him back.

We NEED our reliable players firing again, not many of our team get 10/10 ratings but our strength is that most of our 11 consistently get 8's.
 
Just to be a bit factual, until John Egan got sent off we had not conceded a goal since the restart. We have conceded 6 without him. That obviously not taking away what JOC adds to our attacking options. Think Egan has been the bigger loss. Our only other game where we have conceded 3 was also without him.
Fair point - but surely we can agree that we miss both when they aren't playing.
 
Yes. I think another contribution to the poor form is that subconsciously it must affect the confidence of those in front of the defence knowing the back line is heavily depleted. It's not an excuse but it must have an impact.

Missing JOC and originally Fleck too must have a huge effect on Enda, not to the scale of completely forgetting how to play football like it has done but it was always going to hold him back.

We NEED our reliable players firing again, not many of our team get 10/10 ratings but our strength is that most of our 11 consistently get 8's.
 
Missing any one of our three regular centre backs is a problem for us, missing two is a disaster. Going forward we really do need some appropriate cover.
 
Hopefully gets Enda firing too if true.



If there’s a risk of a relapse of injury I’d rather we hold off getting him back till the Spurs game. Though we picked in my view the wrong replacement for Fleck vs Villa, we do at least have pretty good alternatives to him in Freeman and Osborn. That’s just not the case with any of our defenders, and is something we really need to look to address in the window. You would hope that Egan and Henderson’s returns will give us a natural boost at any rate. I did think Robinson overlapped far more at Old Trafford than in the previous games – won a corner on at least one of those too. I suspect JOC won’t be risked Sunday.
 



Why has everybody decided that O Connell is going? What have I missed? Loads of threads where people are putting "when O Connell goes....."

Is there anything concrete in this or is it just Shit Yourself United fans back in action? I remember the hour long meltdown when Flecks missus posted a vague comment on Instagram...
 

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