Old Photos For No Reason Whatsoever

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

Interesting you call it Unstone bypass, it's Dronfield bypass to me.

It's the Dronfield bypass if you are coming from Sheffield and the Unstone bypass if you are coming from Chesterfield . It is actually called the Unstone and Dronfield bypass so we are both right !!

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

It's the Dronfield bypass if you are coming from Sheffield and the Unstone bypass if you are coming from Chesterfield . It is actually called the Unstone and Dronfield bypass so we are both right !!

Dronny bypass. Where us young lads took our Japanese 2 strokes for a smoky blast in bygone days. An indicated 95 on a Suzuki GT250 on the downhill bit towards Chessy! Scary. Probably doing about 80!

 

[Harrisblade]

It's the Dronfield bypass if you are coming from Sheffield and the Unstone bypass if you are coming from Chesterfield . It is actually called the Unstone and Dronfield bypass so we are both right !!

The half and half scarf of road directions - take that SatNav!

 

[Bert]

Dronny bypass. Where us young lads took our Japanese 2 strokes for a smoky blast in bygone days. An indicated 95 on a Suzuki GT250 on the downhill bit towards Chessy! Scary. Probably doing about 80!

Bert once cracked the ton going down Creg-Ny-Baa at the Isle of Man... a bloke shot past him going at least 40 mph faster, Bert nearly crashed in shock.

 

[Bert]

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

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Is this the 2-2 at Hillsborough in 1966? If so this was my first Derby game. The United players are obvious, but is that John Fantham on the floor?

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

Bert once cracked the ton going down Creg-Ny-Baa at the Isle of Man... a bloke shot past him going at least 40 mph faster, Bert nearly crashed in shock.

It sounds as though Bert was one of those young teararse types.

 

[Bert]

Is this the 2-2 at Hillsborough in 1966? If so this was my first Derby game. The United players are obvious, but is that John Fantham on the floor?

September 66, Bert's first sight of the mighty Blades.

 

[Bert]

It sounds as though Bert was one of those young teararse types.

He was about 30 at the time. He was on his 750 Ducati.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I believe it's Revolution House at Chesterfield, mainly because it says so on the bottom left of the photo
In fairness I have passed this house many times on my travels and always thought it was a bit quirky. I looked up its history and it is a very important building that people here know little or nothing about.

Oh. And it's the Cock and Magpie behind it.

There’s no flies on you Eddie!

There’s some flies on me though. I didn’t see that writing in the bottom left hand corner!

Yes you are correct, It is the Revolution House at Old Whittington, near Chesterfield.

Scene of a plot to overthrow King James II.

I remember my grandma first taking me there when I was about 6 years old. All the rooms were open and there were lots of artefacts to see. Some years later I returned. Most areas were roped off and the place was bare by comparison.

The pub behind it is indeed the Cock and Magpie, but the pub sign doesn’t say that, it says something slightly different. Do you know what it says and what it means - and why?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I walked to Old Whittington last Monday.

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Things you do to pass an hour on during lockdown eh?

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Aermacchi ? rare sight even in the 60/70s, got into bed with Harley Davidson for some strange reason I believe. Also made fighter aircraft in WW2, I hope we shot plenty down

Mr.Harley and Mr.Davidson

 

[bornablade]

Interesting you call it Unstone bypass, it's Dronfield bypass to me.

Not sure when the by pass was built but I remember as kids we used to walk through Lowedges park and over that land when it was farmland to get to the Coach and Horses football ground to watch Norton Woodseats.

 

[Blade1959]

League Cup match in Sept 1970 when we won with a TC goal?

looks like it or could it be 71/72?

League Cup match in Sept 1970 when we won with a TC goal?

Or 72/73 is that Trevor Hockey on the left?

 

[shorehamview]

Mr.Harley and Mr.Davidson

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There‘s a motorbike museum in the hills above Benidorm. I’ve been there a few times, it’s small but glorious.

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

There’s no flies on you Eddie!

There’s some flies on me though. I didn’t see that writing in the bottom left hand corner!

Yes you are correct, It is the Revolution House at Old Whittington, near Chesterfield.

Scene of a plot to overthrow King James II.

I remember my grandma first taking me there when I was about 6 years old. All the rooms were open and there were lots of artefacts to see. Some years later I returned. Most areas were roped off and the place was bare by comparison.

The pub behind it is indeed the Cock and Magpie, but the pub sign doesn’t say that, it says something slightly different. Do you know what it says and what it means - and why?

Not sure on this one. Apart from finding out that Revolution House was once called the Cock and Pynot (a local term for Magpie) before the property behind became the Cock and Magpie, I don't know the answer to this. Come on, spill the beans.

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

Is this the 2-2 at Hillsborough in 1966? If so this was my first Derby game. The United players are obvious, but is that John Fantham on the floor?

Don Megson

 

[XM657]

Anglo Scottish cup in August 1976. Lost 1-0. A lot of fighting in the Kop. St John Ambulance were busy with stretchers

United player please SB, thinking Steve Goulding.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Not sure when the by pass was built but I remember as kids we used to walk through Lowedges park and over that land when it was farmland to get to the Coach and Horses football ground to watch Norton Woodseats.

October 1975. I remember before this, the main A61 through the centre of Dronfield was chaotic. Within a week or so of it opening, the centre of Dronfield became the quiet backwater it's been ever since.

 

[Silent Blade]

Is this the 2-2 at Hillsborough in 1966? If so this was my first Derby game. The United players are obvious, but is that John Fantham on the floor?

Yes in Sept 1966. Woody is just about to score. Think Don Megson on the floor.

 

[Silent Blade]

United player please SB, thinking Steve Goulding.

Chico Hamilton

 

[stringjunior]

There‘s a motorbike museum in the hills above Benidorm. I’ve been there a few times, it’s small but glorious.
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Always preferred Indian bikes myself

 

[Bert]

Don Megson

That's what Bert is thinking as well, Fantham wouldn't have been defending.

 

[Bert]

Always preferred Indian bikes myself

Left hand throttles... Yikes.

 

[Silent Blade]

Things you do to pass an hour on during lockdown eh?

Yes, I have been doing a lot of walking during the lockdown. Troway, Cowley/Holmesfield, Norton Aerodome, Old Whittington (via Hundall) and tonight Bradway (via Dore and Totley golf course)

 

[XM657]

Chico Hamilton

Thank you, I hadn't a clue so looked at the team and decided it was the left back, forgetting Goulding had darker hair.
Hamilton's sold himself there and in all kinds of trouble, poor defending.
Crowd looks spars, looked, it was around seven and a half. Thanks again.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Yes, I have been doing a lot of walking during the lockdown. Troway, Cowley/Holmesfield, Norton Aerodome, Old Whittington (via Hundall) and tonight Bradway (via Dore and Totley golf course)

You're not alone. I think a lot of us have taken bifurcation to new levels during this lockdown. I keep getting phone calls from my Eckington pal telling me about walks he's discovered locally. He's lived there all his life, but he's finding it a constant surprise to discover new routes.

"an' if tha guz darn thear, duz tha know where it brings thi art?"

and inevitably I do know where it brings me out, because I spent the best part of 30 years living in that area and know the routes - but even if I didn't, I've got a good sense of direction and could work it out. I don't like to spoil it for him though, so I feign slight amazement when he tells me that if you turn right down the lane before Foxstone Dam it brings you out on Staveley road at Nether Handley.

It's getting a bit much now though, he called me just as I'd pulled up in Waitrose car park the other day, I was just about to join the queue as it was fairly short, then the phone rings and it's my pal. "Heyup...I'm art walking...I've been art since 6 o'clock this morning, I'm just going past, y'know weir t' owd engine house in t' woods is? Just a bit past thear. I discovered another new route t'other day, tha nose if tha guz reight at t' farm at Plumbley, guess where it brings thi art?" Meanwhile another 100 people have now joined the queue at Waitrose.

You are spoiled for choice around that area though, I have to admit, there are some lovely walks. My childhood was spent, the majority of it, in and amongst Bramley Woods, it was a lovely place to grow up and I still have a lot of affection for it. I'm so glad I grew up in a semi-rural location and not a suburb or the city itself. My favourite walk as a kid was along Levicker Lane, down through the pine woods, over the white iron bridge and on to the Ford, for freshly made ice-cream from the little shop there, or better still, pop and crisps in the beer garden at the Bridge Inn. But there are many other lovely walks spurring off from there. A short climb up the hill towards Ridgeway and the first left down Sloade Lane, takes you on to the little hamlets with names I found quite magical as a child, "Lightwood and Povey". Like summat out of a Rupert Bear annual.

Most of the walks/local beauty spots in that area had charming names given to them when I was a kid. "The wooden hook" (was really meant to be "woody nook" but locals always called it, "The wooden hook" for some reason). "Sandy Bottoms" (a place to paddle and catch bull'eads and stickleback) and "Skelpa". If you've not been t' Skelpa, you've not lived! It's a large dam/fishing lake, situated between Marsh Lane and Troway. Take the footpath from the corner of the car park of the Butcher's Arms pub at Marsh Lane, and walk diagonally in a North West ish direction for about 1.5 miles and you'll discover it.

That area around Cowley/Holmesfield is also very nice, there are some surprising properties in that area and if you haven't already explored it, a trip from there, down to Millthorpe, will allow you to explore more of the delights of the Cordwell Valley.

I'm assuming Norton Aerodrome has been hit hard with this coronavirus thing - not many flights taking off when you were there I bet? I think Apperknowle Aerodrome has also been very quiet of late.

Old Whittington...aye! via Hundall an' all - the scenic route! A walk I've done many times in my youth. From Bole Hill lane to Lightwood, from Lightwood to Middle Handley, from Middle Handley to West Handley, through the woods to Hundall, then up the narrow road in the direction of the TV mast which always looked like a Park Drive plain cigarette sticking out above the trees, and on past "The Poplars" pub, till one came out at...

The Old Revolution House at Old Whittington.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Not sure on this one. Apart from finding out that Revolution House was once called the Cock and Pynot (a local term for Magpie) before the property behind became the Cock and Magpie, I don't know the answer to this. Come on, spill the beans.

Well, you know more than you give yourself credit for, that's more or less it!

The Old Revolution House was once an inn, known as the Cock and Pynot. The Pynot is indeed a local term for magpie. Some who are not in the know, pronounce it as "pinnot". This is wrong. The pronunciation is "pie not". And it originates hundreds of years ago as a description for the magpie, one of the few birds that a pie cannot be made from. Well...technically you could, but apparently the magpie has a disgusting taste and is not fit to eat. That's where "pynot" comes from.

Perhaps it's not just about the apparent disgusting taste of the magpie either? The magpie is a bird that is associated very strongly with superstition, so there's something rather dark and sinister about it. Maybe in the olden days there was some fear about doing harm to a magpie because of the superstitions associated with it?

I remember even as a kid, we were a bit fearful of magpies because we believed that they could indicate what sort of day we were going to have. Some kids would even freeze if they saw one on its own and wait until another one came along. Because one magpie alone is very bad luck - it brings sorrow. Whereas two magpies bring joy.

These superstitions probably derive from the old rhyme:

One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret,
Never to be told.
Eight for a wish,
Nine for a kiss,
Ten for a bird,
You must not miss
Eleven is worse
Twelve for a dastardly curse

Some folks might think this was just the theme tune to the programme "Magpie" from ITV that rivalled "Blue Peter" back in the 1970's, but the rhyme has deeper origins than that.

One of the earliest incarnations of it goes back several hundred years and is noted as:

One for sorrow,
Two for mirth
Three for a funeral,
Four for birth
Five for heaven
Six for hell
Seven for the devil, his own self

It was said that there was one magpie at the birth of Jesus - an omen of the sorrow that was to follow.

So, the Magpie is indeed the Pynot. And the Pynot is strongly associated with Chesterfield and appears, along with the Cock, on the coat of arms.

 

[Sheene7]

Well, you know more than you give yourself credit for, that's more or less it!

The Old Revolution House was once an inn, known as the Cock and Pynot. The Pynot is indeed a local term for magpie. Some who are not in the know, pronounce it as "pinnot". This is wrong. The pronunciation is "pie not". And it originates hundreds of years ago as a description for the magpie, one of the few birds that a pie cannot be made from. Well...technically you could, but apparently the magpie has a disgusting taste and is not fit to eat. That's where "pynot" comes from.

Perhaps it's not just about the apparent disgusting taste of the magpie either? The magpie is a bird that is associated very strongly with superstition, so there's something rather dark and sinister about it. Maybe in the olden days there was some fear about doing harm to a magpie because of the superstitions associated with it?

I remember even as a kid, we were a bit fearful of magpies because we believed that they could indicate what sort of day we were going to have. Some kids would even freeze if they saw one on its own and wait until another one came along. Because one magpie alone is very bad luck - it brings sorrow. Whereas two magpies bring joy.

These superstitions probably derive from the old rhyme:

One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret,
Never to be told.
Eight for a wish,
Nine for a kiss,
Ten for a bird,
You must not miss
Eleven is worse
Twelve for a dastardly curse

Some folks might think this was just the theme tune to the programme "Magpie" from ITV that rivalled "Blue Peter" back in the 1970's, but the rhyme has deeper origins than that.

One of the earliest incarnations of it goes back several hundred years and is noted as:

One for sorrow,
Two for mirth
Three for a funeral,
Four for birth
Five for heaven
Six for hell
Seven for the devil, his own self

It was said that there was one magpie at the birth of Jesus - an omen of the sorrow that was to follow.

So, the Magpie is indeed the Pynot. And the Pynot is strongly associated with Chesterfield and appears, along with the Cock, on the coat of arms.



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Never heard the theory that the name Magpie was derived from not being able to make a pie from them because of their disgusting flavour. In ornithology, the name pie refers to the bird's black and white plumage such as Pied Wagtail, Pied Flycatcher, Magpie, Seapie (old name for an Oystercatcher) etc. I need to get out more.

 

[stringjunior]

Left hand throttles... Yikes.

Apparently. But I can't ride a motorbike, I just prefer the way they look