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Not particularly old, certainly from my perspective, and already a well discussed and photographed bit of history.
Taken in Oct 1991.
Everyone who was around at that time will surely have their own memories, anecdotes, accidents and incidents concerning that place. But since I decided to submit this, I've been trying to remember exactly how many different exits - by that I mean up to street level - there were from this place. Some were ramps some steps, some escalators. So far, I've counted 11. ..???

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I'd forgotten how bad it was down there.
 
If the Mr.Moxon mentioned above was Dave Moxon, he was a couple of years ahead of me at High Storrs, good cricketer and footballer, didn’t own a comb.

If it isn’t, he wasn’t....😁
Spot on mate. He was pretty good on stage too,Pirates of Penzance I think but can't remember what year. He played one of the Coppers.
 
Ah, Miss Jepson the drama teacher, she was quite a lot of fun, it’s a shame I wasn’t a luvvy, I never enjoyed doing school plays. I couldn’t remember the name of Brownhead Farm, I was never in with the in crowd so never got the chance to go. ☹
I wasn't a luvvy either but would like to have been. Lacked courage sadly.Not sure who the "In crowd" were but I wasn't part of it or if I was I was too naive to realise it existed :D . I fell in love at Brownhead farm on the back of a couple of snogs:D.Puberty lol
 
Indeed! And do you remember these?

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They were fitted to a car like in the picture on the box below...

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The "parking light". Hooked over the top of the drivers window, then the window was wound to the top. Red side facing the back of the car, white side facing the front of the car. They ran off the car battery and were a legal requirement at some point in the 1960's, if you had parked your car on the road at night.

They met their demise when manufacturer's made it possible to leave a parking light on by leaving the indicator stalk in an on position when parked. This illuminated one rear and one front lamp. But for many years, during the 1960's the "clip-on" parking light was a common feature on cars. They also made the car more prone to getting broken into though, as it meant the window wasn't fully up and could be forced down more easily. Another feature of cars in the 1960's was this...


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The triangular shaped piece of glass that opened and was called the "quarter light". They were very good for providing ventilation throughout the car, far better than the plastic air vents we have today, however, they were very easily forced open by someone looking to break in the car and eventually met their demise for security reasons.

Back to the parking light for a moment though...and when we were kids at school, in winter time, there was a game that was played where we'd sneak up behind someone and give their tab a good flick - making it glow red. Then we'd laugh and say, "look! he's got t' parking leet on". 😃 I think that phrase died out with the parking light many years ago now.
Repaired loads of these quarter lights doing my apprenticeship on the VW Beetle, only riveted on through the hinge , quick prize and you were in.
 
I'd forgotten how bad it was down there.
Oh, I don't know about that Don240. It wasn't all bad. Its opening coincided with my teenage awakening years. For the first ten years of its existence, I thought it was brilliant.
My memories of it then are all positive.
Sheffield "city on the move" and all that....
I don't disagree that, for many reasons, things went somewhat pear-shaped in later years - and certainly by the time I took those photos.
Anyway, let's hope our team can be but one catalyst to restore some of the pride in our city.
 
Oh, I don't know about that Don240. It wasn't all bad. Its opening coincided with my teenage awakening years. For the first ten years of its existence, I thought it was brilliant.
My memories of it then are all positive.
Sheffield "city on the move" and all that....
I don't disagree that, for many reasons, things went somewhat pear-shaped in later years - and certainly by the time I took those photos.
Anyway, let's hope our team can be but one catalyst to restore some of the pride in our city.
When it was new it did look OK & at Christmas with the tree in the centre & the lights of high street above, it looked magical (to a very young me at least).
Unfortunately it didn't age well & became a place best avoided after the shops closed at night.
It's hard to believe as it's etched deep into the memory of any Sheffielder over around 40, that it was only in use for 27 years in total.
A lot of the city centre is much improved from a few years ago, but the building of Meadowhall & the rise of Internet shopping has left Sheffield with a city centre that is much bigger than needed. Hopefully uses other than retail will be found for the areas that are now in need of some tlc.
I do think that if the Blades become an established top tier side, we will become a catalyst for major regeneration in the area.

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Indeed! And do you remember these?

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They were fitted to a car like in the picture on the box below...

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The "parking light". Hooked over the top of the drivers window, then the window was wound to the top. Red side facing the back of the car, white side facing the front of the car. They ran off the car battery and were a legal requirement at some point in the 1960's, if you had parked your car on the road at night.

They met their demise when manufacturer's made it possible to leave a parking light on by leaving the indicator stalk in an on position when parked. This illuminated one rear and one front lamp. But for many years, during the 1960's the "clip-on" parking light was a common feature on cars. They also made the car more prone to getting broken into though, as it meant the window wasn't fully up and could be forced down more easily. Another feature of cars in the 1960's was this...


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The triangular shaped piece of glass that opened and was called the "quarter light". They were very good for providing ventilation throughout the car, far better than the plastic air vents we have today, however, they were very easily forced open by someone looking to break in the car and eventually met their demise for security reasons.

Back to the parking light for a moment though...and when we were kids at school, in winter time, there was a game that was played where we'd sneak up behind someone and give their tab a good flick - making it glow red. Then we'd laugh and say, "look! he's got t' parking leet on". 😃 I think that phrase died out with the parking light many years ago now.
Smart seat covers and they look extremely comfortable though a little difficult to clean from an accidental spillage.
Anyhow, parking lights, well my view at the time, was it '64?, lit roads cars with headlights, law enforcing reflectors on cars and to have a licence to drive one has to be sighted. Taking those four things into account no need for them. Personal observation. Story on parking light.
1964, my soon to be brother in law, a Yellowbelly. owner and rider of a AJS 650AJS 650.jpg was in the prosses of taking his driving test. Past test, sold bike and bought a blackAustin A40.A40 1955.jpg At this point the law required a parking light and being tight and for what ever reason didn't want his battery running down over night. His answer to this was the paraffin road works lights of the day,Road works light.jpg
Unfortunately all windows had red glass so it seemed a no goer. Fortunately I had access to temp. airfield lighting which had interchangeable coloured glass covers on top, clear, red, blue and amber so one clear was obtained and delivered. I should have said FBinL worked for EMEB enabling him to obtain light then weld in clear glass. One parking light to hang on car door cushioned by a square of rubber matting.
The A40 was change for a Vauxhall CrestaVauxhall Cresta 1960.jpg these colours, pull better women but that's another story. Social history snippet, my BinL was on the last course for fitters mates to up grade to fitters with the EMEB, after that education qualifications were necessary to become a fitter.
 
Oh I agree with your observations on the Jensen Healey. I don't think many were ever sold in the U.K. It was a bit of an odd looking car, rather plain and boxy. This was the era of the Triumph TR7 of course - another abomination on the beautiful TR series sports cars that preceded it - the TR5 and earlier models especially.

Let's compare:

The Triumph TR 5:
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Very nice!

The Triumph TR6:


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Still nice - although notably a bit more "boxy" than the TR5.

The Triumph TR7:

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WTF! :eek:

And that was the end of Triumph sports cars - I wonder why?

As to your question...

I think that is Mr Healey with Mr Jensen's wife in that JH. No wonder the business partnership didn't last long! 😉

The TR7 reflected the times and the BL influence. It was quite pretty as a convertible. If they had launched the V8 drop top first it may have been a success. Instead they launched a wheezy 4 cyl hardtop.

This was the era Jaguar replaced the e type with the XJS! British Leyland could have been great but for a lack of joined up thinking, shit build quality and the unions.

Stag with the Rover V8, River SD1 without the rust etc. My Dad ordered a Range Rover the day they were launched, 12 months later he bought a Merc because it still hasn't been delivered.

The British Car industry could have been so good if everyone working in it wasn't so determined to mess it up.
 

The TR7 reflected the times and the BL influence. It was quite pretty as a convertible. If they had launched the V8 drop top first it may have been a success. Instead they launched a wheezy 4 cyl hardtop.

This was the era Jaguar replaced the e type with the XJS! British Leyland could have been great but for a lack of joined up thinking, shit build quality and the unions.

Stag with the Rover V8, River SD1 without the rust etc. My Dad ordered a Range Rover the day they were launched, 12 months later he bought a Merc because it still hasn't been delivered.

The British Car industry could have been so good if everyone working in it wasn't so determined to mess it up.

You are spot on with that assessment. British Leyland was a disaster for the British motor industry. I remember it being in the news about them always being on strike, but when they were working many of the cars they turned out were an abomination during the 70's. Allegro, Maestro, Princess, Ambassador, Marina, Ital, Metro.

Going back to Triumph for a moment, they did make some very good cars back in the day.

The Triumph Herald

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The car in the picture above was something of a rarity. It's the Triumph Herald Coupe (note the sloping section to the roof). There weren't many of these made. The most popular version was the 1200 saloon.

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Which also was available as a convertible
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This was back in the day when you could maintain your vehicle yourself and didn't need to take it into a garage to have it plugged in to a computer. And the Triumph Herald was a dream to work on, because of this...

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The bonnet completely opened out making it easy to get to any part of the engine.

The Daddy of the Herald range was this one though...

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The Triumph Herald Vitesse. This is one of the later versions, with a 2 litre engine. It was capable of outperforming other popular sports cars of the day, like the MGB, and it offered seating for 4 adults. Affectionately known as "The Tezzy" by some, it was a lovely looking car, with a sweet sounding engine. Here...let's go for a drive in this one above and you can experience it for yourself...

 
Wasn't born yet, but found these in a box of mum and dads old stuff when I moved, many happy times going to watch him play in the late 60's before his first heart attack, (was landed on my head by the midwife in 61)
dad far right (not saying which row):cool:
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Sheffield Bankers appear on there. For whatever reasons - probably the size of my overdraft - I played for Bankers between 1982 and 1988: Juniors, 2nd XI, Midweek XI, and a few 1st XI (hopelessly out of my depth).

Top score: 55 not out v Collegiate Juniors in 1983. Best moment: on a tour of Berkshire, hitting the winning runs and chucking the winning arrow all in the same day, between bouts of violent vomiting, including throwing up on the lawn in front of the Royal Castle on a morning visit to Windsor.
 
You are spot on with that assessment. British Leyland was a disaster for the British motor industry. I remember it being in the news about them always being on strike, but when they were working many of the cars they turned out were an abomination during the 70's. Allegro, Maestro, Princess, Ambassador, Marina, Ital, Metro.

Going back to Triumph for a moment, they did make some very good cars back in the day.

The Triumph Herald

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The car in the picture above was something of a rarity. It's the Triumph Herald Coupe (note the sloping section to the roof). There weren't many of these made. The most popular version was the 1200 saloon.

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Which also was available as a convertible
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This was back in the day when you could maintain your vehicle yourself and didn't need to take it into a garage to have it plugged in to a computer. And the Triumph Herald was a dream to work on, because of this...

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The bonnet completely opened out making it easy to get to any part of the engine.

The Daddy of the Herald range was this one though...

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The Triumph Herald Vitesse. This is one of the later versions, with a 2 litre engine. It was capable of outperforming other popular sports cars of the day, like the MGB, and it offered seating for 4 adults. Affectionately known as "The Tezzy" by some, it was a lovely looking car, with a sweet sounding engine. Here...let's go for a drive in this one above and you can experience it for yourself...



My Mum had a Vitesse Convertible. I don't remember it, but my older cousin still raves about how good that car was. I found the unused tonneau cover when I cleared the house when my Dad passed away.
 
You are spot on with that assessment. British Leyland was a disaster for the British motor industry. I remember it being in the news about them always being on strike, but when they were working many of the cars they turned out were an abomination during the 70's. Allegro, Maestro, Princess, Ambassador, Marina, Ital, Metro.

Going back to Triumph for a moment, they did make some very good cars back in the day.

The Triumph Herald

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The car in the picture above was something of a rarity. It's the Triumph Herald Coupe (note the sloping section to the roof). There weren't many of these made. The most popular version was the 1200 saloon.

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Which also was available as a convertible
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This was back in the day when you could maintain your vehicle yourself and didn't need to take it into a garage to have it plugged in to a computer. And the Triumph Herald was a dream to work on, because of this...

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The bonnet completely opened out making it easy to get to any part of the engine.

The Daddy of the Herald range was this one though...

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The Triumph Herald Vitesse. This is one of the later versions, with a 2 litre engine. It was capable of outperforming other popular sports cars of the day, like the MGB, and it offered seating for 4 adults. Affectionately known as "The Tezzy" by some, it was a lovely looking car, with a sweet sounding engine. Here...let's go for a drive in this one above and you can experience it for yourself...


Shameful, the only word suitable to describe the demise of the British motor industry. That includes motorcycles and commercials.
Triumph cars. BMW are where Triumph COULD and probably should have been. TR6, the Germans and Japs both have 2 seater sports cars. Tr was let down by a crappy fuel pump so everybody panicked and dumped the injection system and went back to carbs. Same with the 2.5PI. Every engine now has fuel injection and engine management.
Stag. Unique. BL had the Buick V8 and didn't use it, instead cobbling up their own. Rust.
The Germans showed how it's done. Design it reyt, test it until it's reyt, improve it, rinse, repeat.
Japs copied and removed the errors made by us.
 
Quiz:
1. Name this former Blade (hint: it isn't John Cutbush). 🤔

2. Which team was he playing for at the time of this interview and after scoring in which game?
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tried to nominate myself for car sos but had to pay for the restoration of this Carmen Ghia as it wasn't on tv then

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Looks great, did about 65 flat out, VW engine. For the pedantic amongst us, it was a Karmann Ghia! Oh, and the Triumph Vitesse had a 6 cylinder engine, originally 1.6 then 2.0 litre. One final thing on the vehicle thread- why would anyone get rid of an AJS 650 for an Austin A40? I think I may know the answer to that, but total lack of street cred!!!😂
 
Looks great, did about 65 flat out, VW engine. For the pedantic amongst us, it was a Karmann Ghia! Oh, and the Triumph Vitesse had a 6 cylinder engine, originally 1.6 then 2.0 litre. One final thing on the vehicle thread- why would anyone get rid of an AJS 650 for an Austin A40? I think I may know the answer to that, but total lack of street cred!!!😂
Bert had one of these, he went to take his bike test and the bloody thing wouldn't start. He ended up borrowing a Suzuki 100 and passing it on that.

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I wasn't a luvvy either but would like to have been. Lacked courage sadly.Not sure who the "In crowd" were but I wasn't part of it or if I was I was too naive to realise it existed :D . I fell in love at Brownhead farm on the back of a couple of snogs:D.Puberty lol
You were probably ok being two or three years younger than me but it always seemed to be certain teachers favourites in our year who were chosen to go, the ones who excelled in lessons or sports and were pally with the staff.
The nearest I got to performing was being in the school choir in my early days, under Neville Chatterton the music teacher.
I was a bit short on the snogs as well. 😢
 
Is that the 250cc Continental GT ? complete with flyscreen
It certainly is, Bert's was a 1965 version but with a 4 speed gearbox rather than the useless 5 speeder. Gear change on the right of course.
 
Bert also had one of these but with full fairing, racing tank and seat. The extras were made by well know ex racer and dealer Eddie Crooks.
When Bert came to sell it a bloke rang up and Bert proceeded to describe it.....

Bert. "It's got the full Crooks race kit, do you know what that is?"

Buyer. "Yes, I am Eddie Crooks."

And he was! He bought it £240.

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Si thi at fish tank hayf eight.

Looking back, it's remarkable that we managed to make quite detailed arrangements, and have a social life, without the aid of a Smartphone. In 1963 I travelled to Paris and met up with a pal before we drove to Le Mans. My friend was living in France at the time so we must have arranged it all by letters. Heaven knows what would have happened had he not turned up in Paris. I would have been lost.
 

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