Entire season Null and void?

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Typical scaremonger tactics by the media they are loving this its the biggest news story for years. Last time I can remember a media fuss like this was over the Mad Cow disease and the source of beef you should avoid.

Feel sorry for the current victims but they need to put it in perspective.

15 people have tested positive in the UK as the government warns schools could close if the virus becomes a pandemic

says the Telegraph.

15 to a Pandemic in one sentence quick let me get my masks. Actually in Leeds there are already people walking about with masks on !
 

Surely they’ll have to. If they can keep shops open (selling non essential items) for the sake of the economy then doesn’t the same apply to football? Particularly PL football.

I know this article is pure speculation but it seems on one hand we’re not taking serious steps to contain it, for example telling people coming back from Italy to ‘self quarantine’ whilst at the same time discussing hugely draconian measures taken fairly randomly.
The messages seem very mixed. I still don’t know if this is actually serious or not. Are we all at risk of dying? I don’t think scare stories in the media are particularly helpful.

Here's the thing about the spread of new diseases: you start with a load of people getting sick and it gets put down to some other illness. Eventually a trend forms that points to a new illness. Now, at that point, you have no idea how many people have it because it's probably asymptomatic in most cases and you can only identify the ones that get sick. Because you're now aware of it, and looking for it, you start identifying lots of sick people with it, and so the number of cases skyrockets. And because you're now identifying it in people who were previously already very ill, the % of confirmed cases that die also skyrockets. This is the point where the media sensationalise it because the stats look so awful (but remember, it could be the case that 90% of your population have it but it only has symptoms in very few). Then people in areas of outbreaks take basic measures like hygiene, quarantine, and such, and we get a better look at where the disease stems from. You then reach a point where the death toll remains pretty constant but the number of new cases decreases. This again looks awful because it looks at face value highly lethal, but really you've reached the point that the disease is dying out. That's pretty much where we're at.

The time to worry is when the number of new cases starts accelerating and exceeding the death count because that's the way that it can spread wider and wider. In order for a disease to maintain itself it needs to spread faster than people are diagnosed, otherwise it kills all its hosts before it can spread sufficiently to survive itself.

I've probably explained that badly and made some basic errors because I don't have a background in infectious diseases, but the point is that it's taking a very predictable trend that indicates absolutely nothing like a global epidemic. The media makes it a craze, governments have to be seen to do something and so start all the quarantining and such, but this will go the way of SARS, swine flu, avian flu, Spanish flu, that were all going to cause mayhem across the globe.
 
So this is if the players die?

Otherwise they would surely play closed doors TV matches?
 
Should have said ‘void and null’ to avoid duplication
 
Just our luck, qualify for champions league, win the FA Cup and a virus caused by the Chinese eating bat's wipes all of this away
 
If games do get called off or are played behind closed doors the pigs will still have 30K crowds becuse that`s what Grandad said happened so it must be true.
 
If games do get called off or are played behind closed doors the pigs will still have 30K crowds becuse that`s what Grandad said happened so it must be true.

There were over 30 thousand fans desperate to watch Wednesday play but sadly due to the virus they could not attend the match. The matches were shown on TV instead and they were the most watched matches of football in the history of television. Sky could not cope with the millions of fans watching so they had to show the match on two channels.
 
Here's the thing about the spread of new diseases: you start with a load of people getting sick and it gets put down to some other illness. Eventually a trend forms that points to a new illness. Now, at that point, you have no idea how many people have it because it's probably asymptomatic in most cases and you can only identify the ones that get sick. Because you're now aware of it, and looking for it, you start identifying lots of sick people with it, and so the number of cases skyrockets. And because you're now identifying it in people who were previously already very ill, the % of confirmed cases that die also skyrockets. This is the point where the media sensationalise it because the stats look so awful (but remember, it could be the case that 90% of your population have it but it only has symptoms in very few). Then people in areas of outbreaks take basic measures like hygiene, quarantine, and such, and we get a better look at where the disease stems from. You then reach a point where the death toll remains pretty constant but the number of new cases decreases. This again looks awful because it looks at face value highly lethal, but really you've reached the point that the disease is dying out. That's pretty much where we're at.

The time to worry is when the number of new cases starts accelerating and exceeding the death count because that's the way that it can spread wider and wider. In order for a disease to maintain itself it needs to spread faster than people are diagnosed, otherwise it kills all its hosts before it can spread sufficiently to survive itself.

I've probably explained that badly and made some basic errors because I don't have a background in infectious diseases, but the point is that it's taking a very predictable trend that indicates absolutely nothing like a global epidemic. The media makes it a craze, governments have to be seen to do something and so start all the quarantining and such, but this will go the way of SARS, swine flu, avian flu, Spanish flu, that were all going to cause mayhem across the globe.
Good post until you wrote "Spanish flu". That was a pandemic and killed between 40 and 50 million people and did cause mayhem across the world
 

So just reading through it and whilst I can see the season being stopped I don’t see any scenario other than it’s click bait with no chance of being null and void

you would not only end the season but you cancel all European football next season as well as you can’t enter anyone if all are equal etc
 
Good post until you wrote "Spanish flu". That was a pandemic and killed between 40 and 50 million people and did cause mayhem across the world

I know, but a couple of years back on the centenary of the outbreak there were articles like this appearing:


The usual slow walking back of a big scary headline into nothing. That's what I was referring to, not the outbreak that killed millions.
 
I know, but a couple of years back on the centenary of the outbreak there were articles like this appearing:


The usual slow walking back of a big scary headline into nothing. That's what I was referring to, not the outbreak that killed millions.
A Spanish type flu would be as close to armageddon as it can get without wiping out the entire human race .
This Corona virus is tame in comparison but still kills plenty.
It is actually a good dummy run in case something really nasty comes along, there will be valuable lessons learned.
 
A Spanish type flu would be as close to armageddon as it can get without wiping out the entire human race .
This Corona virus is tame in comparison but still kills plenty.
It is actually a good dummy run in case something really nasty comes along, there will be valuable lessons learned.
What makes you think there's something nastier than the diseases and bacteria we've already experienced waiting in the wings?
 
While this is severe form of the flu virus, it does seem to have been overplayed by the authorities and a thirsty media.
Bog standard flu kills about 650,000 victims per year. This seems no less, or more virulent than that, so common sense should prevail. Old, young and those already ill are most likely to succumb and some will die, but the pandemic seems unlikely in the northern hemisphere as seasonal temperatures will increase, and the virus will diminish?
Those lovely Australians are advising folk to avoid holding hands and kissing. Wonderful antipodian humour. 🤗
 
Will season ticket holders get some money back!?
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If recent events are anything to go by, Wednesday have been testing this at the last home games.

They tried a half empty ground on about 60 minutes first and they brought that forward to 30 mins in against Derby.

Rumour has it they'll test it with whole parts of the ground empty for the Man City game...
 
Sorry, bit late to this thread, just been out for bread and milk....

More chance of contracting and dying from influenza.....chill out and wash your hands.
 
While this is severe form of the flu virus, it does seem to have been overplayed by the authorities and a thirsty media.
Bog standard flu kills about 650,000 victims per year. This seems no less, or more virulent than that, so common sense should prevail. Old, young and those already ill are most likely to succumb and some will die, but the pandemic seems unlikely in the northern hemisphere as seasonal temperatures will increase, and the virus will diminish?
Those lovely Australians are advising folk to avoid holding hands and kissing. Wonderful antipodian humour. 🤗
It appears there are two potential problems

Large numbers of people off work. This could bugger up the economy, particularly if it’s the likes of air traffic control, pilots, tube and train drivers etc. London is like Kerplunk. If one thing goes wrong, everything collapses.

Overloading the NHS. It struggles to cope in normal circumstances. And, again, it will cost and, along with the cost of all the floods we’ve had, will take away money from public funds.

Of course, it will despatch a lot of the elderly sooner than they were expecting but there may be economic benefits from this to offset the above. We’re spending huge amounts of money keeping people alive who have a very poor quality of life.
 
It appears there are two potential problems

Large numbers of people off work. This could bugger up the economy, particularly if it’s the likes of air traffic control, pilots, tube and train drivers etc. London is like Kerplunk. If one thing goes wrong, everything collapses.

Overloading the NHS. It struggles to cope in normal circumstances. And, again, it will cost and, along with the cost of all the floods we’ve had, will take away money from public funds.

Of course, it will despatch a lot of the elderly sooner than they were expecting but there may be economic benefits from this to offset the above. We’re spending huge amounts of money keeping people alive who have a very poor quality of life.
It’s easy for me to be ambivalent, living in the tropics, but I can’t help feeling that the World Health Organisation, and the world media have made this issue bigger than it actually is. My view is just a plea for common sense to prevail, and avoid all the over reaction.
The media in particular are guilty of blowing the issue up because they have so little to report on right now. The worse they make it sound, the worse it gets.
A UK based mate of mine informs me that shops have sold out of hand sanitizer, when soap and water is just as effective.
All the negative points you raise are quite valid, but the general over reaction is the cause of these effects, not the disease itself.
I predict doomsday peppers giving it large over the next few weeks. The dumb just keep getting dumber.
 
Sheffield Wednesday's season is already null and void. As far as London coming to a standstill who cares? Us up North might as well be on a different planet!
 
Sheffield Wednesday's season is already null and void. As far as London coming to a standstill who cares? Us up North might as well be on a different planet!
I do. As will the other London based Blades.
 

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