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Thought Fleck was poor tonight but could have something to do with City having better players. We tried to bridge the gulf but they have quality in abundance after spending a billion or so on the squad under pep. We have the strategy but we are still short of. Quality but to be fair so are the majority of teams who face City

They've destroyed far more established teams than us
 
blade too long said:
Thought Fleck was poor tonight but could have something to do with City having better players. We tried to bridge the gulf but they have quality in abundance after spending a billion or so on the squad under pep. We have the strategy but we are still short of. Quality but to be fair so are the majority of teams who face City

They've destroyed far more established teams than us
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I wouldn't describe the performance of any of the players as "poor" - although Basham had one of his "wacky" games. (Kicking it, heading it, all over the place, just doing barmy things in general, like his brain isn't connected to his feet or the rest of his body). Still love him to bits though - but he's scary when he's like that.

I thought Fleck was really good tbh - maybe not his best game ever for us - but considering he and all of them are up against some of world's best players - I thought he did really well. As an example, did you see the one in the second half where Fleck got the ball and burst through two of them and was eventually hauled down? It's all about opinions of course, but I agree with the point you make about quality. IF we were able to add 2 or 3 players with a bit of special quality then I think we'd be even higher up the table. I don't see that happening in January though - let's see what summer brings.
 
Maybe I saw a different game but in possession we had zero composure and were under par again. We tended to go direct/ long balls too much.

Agree...we don’t look as higher quality in possession without McGoldrick.....although I thought McBurnies allround gsme was excellent last night.
You could see the Man City defenders didn’t like playing against McBurnie.....Sharp put in a good shift too.

We were excellent out of possession and our work rate was impressive again...so can’t complain too much.
Maybe it was Man City instant pressing but with the ball we always looked rushed and under pressure.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Maybe I saw a different game but in possession we had zero composure and were under par again. We tended to go direct/ long balls too much.

Agree...we don’t look as higher quality in possession without McGoldrick.....although I thought McBurnies allround gsme was excellent last night.
You could see the Man City defenders didn’t like playing against McBurnie.....Sharp put in a good shift too.

We were excellent out of possession and our work rate was impressive again...so can’t complain too much.
Maybe it was Man City instant pressing but with the ball we always looked rushed and under pressure.
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Thought city putting 2 holding midfielder s on them stopped us going through the middle hence why we were direct. Having said that the best chances we had in the game were from us playing it around. The chance in 1st half when sharps cross got that slight deflection, so close! Mcburnie would have surely had a tap in
 
Sheffsteel said:
Maybe I saw a different game but in possession we had zero composure and were under par again. We tended to go direct/ long balls too much.

Agree...we don’t look as higher quality in possession without McGoldrick.....although I thought McBurnies allround gsme was excellent last night.
You could see the Man City defenders didn’t like playing against McBurnie.....Sharp put in a good shift too.

We were excellent out of possession and our work rate was impressive again...so can’t complain too much.
Maybe it was Man City instant pressing but with the ball we always looked rushed and under pressure.
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Agree with most of what you say, but any judgement on our performance has to be measured against the standard we were up against.
City, like Liverpool, paid us a huge compliment by doing to us what we have been doing to others for the last 3 years. They are simply better at it, as they should be. City scored 6 against Villa recently, and yet we ran them real close, and could easily have taken the lead 30 seconds before they scored.
 
I thought the same as sheff, we knew they were going to have 70% of the possession but I expected more from us when we had the ball, some of the passing and understanding between the players was as poor as I have seen under wilder, big improvement in the second half though
 



Not sure it's a creativity that's the biggest concern right now, for me simple ball retention has gone completely awol from our game.

We get that back and I think the creative play naturally follows.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
I wouldn't describe the performance of any of the players as "poor" - although Basham had one of his "wacky" games. (Kicking it, heading it, all over the place, just doing barmy things in general, like his brain isn't connected to his feet or the rest of his body). Still love him to bits though - but he's scary when he's like that.

I thought Fleck was really good tbh - maybe not his best game ever for us - but considering he and all of them are up against some of world's best players - I thought he did really well. As an example, did you see the one in the second half where Fleck got the ball and burst through two of them and was eventually hauled down? It's all about opinions of course, but I agree with the point you make about quality. IF we were able to add 2 or 3 players with a bit of special quality then I think we'd be even higher up the table. I don't see that happening in January though - let's see what summer brings.
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I only meant less effective by the standard he's set himself. He was rusjed into a lot of poor passes. The fact is he's great v 90 per cent of the prem but against Liverpool and man city he's a fraction behind. But they embarrass a lot more. By a bigger gulf
 
Well we've got them and Liverpool behind us now so we can get on with the rest of the season now.
 
blade too long said:
I only meant less effective by the standard he's set himself. He was rusjed into a lot of poor passes. The fact is he's great v 90 per cent of the prem but against Liverpool and man city he's a fraction behind. But they embarrass a lot more. By a bigger gulf
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Very true pal. To be expected of course. But at least it shows us what level we need to be aiming for.
 
Why is he not playing, what's his injury ?
 
I don't know what the injury situation is with mcgoldrick but we are missing him so much, although the defensive organisation is still terrific we have lost so much flair and fluidity going forward since his absence, not only do we need him back asap but a suitable replacement must be top of Wilders summer wish list
 
Bobby b said:
I don't know what the injury situation is with mcgoldrick but we are missing him so much, although the defensive organisation is still terrific we have lost so much flair and fluidity going forward since his absence, not only do we need him back asap but a suitable replacement must be top of Wilders summer wish list
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Maybe we need to go back to our old formation and play a CAM.
 
The Star reporting he'll be back this weekend
 
Bladesman said:
Maybe we need to go back to our old formation and play a CAM.
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To play that you would have to drop one of the midfielders who started Saturday, which isnt going to happen, or play 1 up front
 
Bobby b said:
To play that you would have to drop one of the midfielders who started Saturday, which isnt going to happen, or play 1 up front
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Yeah, that flat 3 really hasn't worked for us this season.

McGoldrick plays almost like a 10 behind a main 9 anyway out of necessity.
 



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