VAR VAR

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Felt equally sorry for Wolves today who got bummed by yet another bootlace straying offside. But there's suppose to be in the spirit of the game with the ref blocking the pass to Fleck. Instead we have the strange first occasion of a ref getting an assist in a man city goal

 

[metalblade]

Shades of 2003 at Old Trafford with Graham Poll

 

[IOM Blade]

In my opinion Sian Massey is a great lino ,one of the best but that one she missed in our favour today in the second half was RayTinkleresque

Was that the moose one second half when we won a corner? He was onside.

 

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[bromtom]

Was that the moose one second half when we won a corner? He was onside.

She flagged Aguero off first half and he was half a yard on too.

They're all crap for everyone.

No malice toward Citeh, it's the officials.

 

[Roygbiv]

Imagine the Aguuueeerrrroooo moment in the age of VAR. The fans all just looking up at the TV's to see if it was going to be given.

Wonder if by the end of the season there will be no cheering at all for close range goals? Sounds mental but I can't see me cheering now unless it's a 30 yarder.

 

[BettingBlade]

Imagine the Aguuueeerrrroooo moment in the age of VAR. The fans all just looking up at the TV's to see if it was going to be given.

Wonder if by the end of the season there will be no cheering at all for close range goals? Sounds mental but I can't see me cheering now unless it's a 30 yarder.

Agree completely. I’m not even that arsed about going to the games anymore. It’s getting to the point now where it really could seem pointless to me.

The enjoyment of celebrating a goal is what footballs all about. I can’t do that properly anymore. For me football has always been about going out for a few beers, the excitement before hand, then getting to the game and being in the edge of your seat for 90 minutes, then dissecting the whole 90 minutes in the pub afterwards. Having said that the game has been a distraction sometimes, particularly when we have been shit. But without that I’d seriously be considering knocking it on the head. The actual 90 minutes of football aren’t that enjoyable anymore because the excitement of scoring a goal is being eroded.

 

[Tom Bott]

Bit like saying penecilin doesn't cure every illness every time so don't use it at all.

Though antibiotics are demanded by so many and pumped into animals so routinely that most antibiotics now have developed resistant strains and are largely ineffective.

Key facts

• Antibiotic resistance is one of the biggest threats to global health, food security, and development today.
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• Antibiotic resistance occurs naturally, but misuse of antibiotics in humans and animals is accelerating the process.
• A growing number of infections – such as pneumonia, tuberculosis, gonorrhoea, and salmonellosis – are becoming harder to treat as the antibiotics used to treat them become less effective.
• Antibiotic resistance leads to longer hospital stays, higher medical costs and increased mortality.
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• https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antibiotic-resistance

Apart from that your analogy is sound.

 

[Tom Bott]

Agree completely. I’m not even that arsed about going to the games anymore. It’s getting to the point now where it really could seem pointless to me.

Precisely, in the same way that 'the digital revolution' now controls the decision making processes why not just have virtual reality players.

Video game football.

 

[Tom Bott]

If the asst ref had flagged offside would that be the death of football or do you object to var making correct decisions?

I hate it but if it highlights the ridiculous offside laws and leads to changes in them then it will have been worth it

Just give a 5 year old some coloured crayons and a ruler to let them decide..

 

[CornwallBlade]

When I was a lad you were offside if you were level with the defender and there was no messing about with all these phases of play nonsense. If one player was offside the goal didn't stand unless they were seriously not interfering with play. As a centre half I really liked the old rules! Not great for the spectators mind!

As the great Brian Clough once said “If you’re not interfering with play, what the hell are you doing on the pitch!” Bloody nonsense and I agree, adding layers of subjectivity is ruining our game as a spectator sport

 

[JJ Sefton]

Time to abolish it and the shithouses that make it run so awful. It's killing the game.

Football has existed for way over a century and done pretty well. The odd error from the ref pales into insignificance to this abortion is having on the game.

VAR is doing for my love of football what George Lucas and Disney did for my love of Star Wars.

 

[Tom Bott]

I've got to measure up for some new roller blinds in the morning. Anybody own a flag they can come around and wave so I can get a vague idea of the width I'll need.

Depends on the thread count of the material you are going to use.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Just to lighten the mood

 

[SWB]

I have consistently said the offside RULE needs tweaking because armpits and toenail lines are ridiculous but yes I really welcome VAR. I think a few months will see it well bedded- in . In the past I have watched so much football where the referee decided the points with his errors.

Unfortunately our referees are well capable of errors even on 5 screens. They will improve or will be demoted, they are in the spotlight like never before and with nowhere to hide.

Next season it will all be fine. I square the technology supposed weaknesses with the belief it is the same for all teams and the knowledge it will inevitably be improved.

why do you keep pushing this?? Even when they tweak this abomination I'll still be stood waiting for a minimum of 1 minute before they determine yea or nay. Response to a goal is an automatic joyous moment not a period in limbo. Sooner suffer natural officiating errors than suffer the crap of this or any changed VAR system, all it does is pass the errors further down the line.........why do you keep pushing this??

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

why do you keep pushing this?? Even when they tweak this abomination I'll still be stood waiting for a minimum of 1 minute before they determine yea or nay. Response to a goal is an automatic joyous moment not a period in limbo. Sooner suffer natural officiating errors than suffer the crap of this or any changed VAR system, all it does is pass the errors further down the line.........why do you keep pushing this??

Don't encourage them, it's horseshit not debatable.

It's like the 48% remainers, pointless.

 

[Woodwardfan]

why do you keep pushing this?? Even when they tweak this abomination I'll still be stood waiting for a minimum of 1 minute before they determine yea or nay. Response to a goal is an automatic joyous moment not a period in limbo. Sooner suffer natural officiating errors than suffer the crap of this or any changed VAR system, all it does is pass the errors further down the line.........why do you keep pushing this??

Fact is that Mousset was offside when all is said and done. No bad luck in that. The Man City players were appealing instantly and straight after the 'goal'. The linesman has been told to keep his flag down in close situations, if they really have to do that then they really should add an instruction for him to put his flag up and call for a check when the ball enters the net.

The VAR official could not overturn their first goal because there was no rule broken. The onfield referee should have stopped the game ( whistled) before Aguero shot. After he scored there was no way back, no rule to stop the goal.

Great shame a poor ex-referee like Reilly has been running this project. However referees do not make the rules of the game, as far as I know.

We were not 'diddled' yesterday, but very unlucky.

 

[Woodwardfan]

As the great Brian Clough once said “If you’re not interfering with play, what the hell are you doing on the pitch!” Bloody nonsense and I agree, adding layers of subjectivity is ruining our game as a spectator sport

Mousset was interfering, he got the ball and was offside.

It's not 'subjectivity'.

 

[metalblade]

Fact is that Mousset was offside when all is said and done. No bad luck in that. The Man City players were appealing instantly and straight after the 'goal'. The linesman has been told to keep his flag down in close situations, if they really have to do that then they really should add an instruction for him to put his flag up and call for a check when the ball enters the net.

The VAR official could not overturn their first goal because there was no rule broken. The onfield referee should have stopped the game ( whistled) before Aguero shot. After he scored there was no way back, no rule to stop the goal.

Great shame a poor ex-referee like Reilly has been running this project. However referees do not make the rules of the game, as far as I know.

We were not 'diddled' yesterday, but very unlucky.

Looked to me like the Man City players were appealing for a free kick when Egan out muscled Aguerro to win the ball made worse by him getting the mardi's on and lashing out. By the way which part of Mousset was offside when Fleck played the ball the sheer pace and acceleration of Mousset put him 3yards clear in a split second but that don't mean it is a fact that he was offside.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I want to watch a football match not have a maths lesson.

Utd have won 1-0.......

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Utd have won 1-0.......

Scored by some academy starlet.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Scored by some academy starlet.

Tommy Trigonometry-Denier..... reyt player.....

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I'm a bit disappointed posters aren't thinking outside the box. Use VAR more, trust the technology, there's no need for an on field Referee, no one to get in Fleck's way, that Aguero goal doesn't happen.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

As var was meant to make everything fairer, why does it leave everyone feeling sad, angry and above all cheated?

because it isn’t fairer. It’s shit and needs to be radically overhauled or suspended right now while they decide if it should ever be brought back.

 

[metalblade]

VAR is a bit like artificial insemination you get the results (after a while) but none of the pleasure.

 

[Large Mendonca]

If we have to have it, just leave the whole thing to the ref with a pitch-side monitor, as in the 2018 World Cup.

 

[CornwallBlade]

Mousset was interfering, he got the ball and was offside.

It's not 'subjectivity'.

You miss the point. First part of my comment was referring to “active players”.Where 2 or 3 are inside the box but can’t be offside unless they actually touch the ball has always seemed crazy. Secondly, of course it’s subjective for the VAR official to decide whether a gnats whisker of a players body is offside - that’s what this whole thread is about

 

[Bladesman]

Someone send Shearer round to this guys house:

 

[Trigger Blade]

The 1 min 59 secs Man City TV highlights don’t show the ref involved in their first goal and just casually mentions that Moose’s goal was offside, so no controversy at all for them.

For me, that’s part of the problem, the big team got the right result and the juggernaut rolls on and everything is right with the world. Except it isn’t.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]