Billy Sharp

[Fiery Blade]

When Billy Sharp has played for the Blades he was rubbish
How come Billy Sharp can score 15 goals already this season for a supposedly inferior side with little on no money in the same division when he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo at the lane.
How come that if he is capable of the goals someone senior at the lane has questioned Blackwell and asked this question and how come we are just expecting to off load him at the end of the season for peanuts having spent £2million quid to buy him back after giving him away in the first place ?
Personally I always thought his best attributes were falling over on his arse and getting caught offside more than any other player I've seen but obviously O'Driscoll has found a way to utilise him to effect!
Mind you Blackwell would have got rid of Ronaldo if he played for the Blades cause he wouldn't track back!!!

 

[spadge]

blackwells tactics and man managment could make wayne rooney look shit, cotterill and howard are crowd favourites at there new clubs tell a million and one things that.

 

[Foxy]

He's now a big fish and hasn't got the pressure of being a fan of the club wanting to do his best.

That and the ball falls to him 6 yards from the net.

 

[Oreyt]

It's great that at this time of multiple posts on the same subject you've managed to think up a new and exciting area of debate.

Well done you!

 

[Fiery Blade]

He's now a big fish and hasn't got the pressure of being a fan of the club wanting to do his best.

That and the ball falls to him 6 yards from the net.

Big fish and pressure are a poor excuses !
We had balls falling to players 6 yards out last two games and only Morgan and Monty could get onto them!

There is some radically wrong with Blackwells management and yet no one within the Bramall lane hierarchy can see it !

 

[SwissBlade]

Ched and Billy both look crap strikers because they track back. Keith Edwards mentioned on Tuesday that we drag everyone back to defend.

If the Wingers did their job and tracked back then there is absolutely no need to drag the strikers back deep as well.

Billy is doing for Donny what Ronney is now doing for Man Utd. Playing as an out an out Striker, rather than 70% striker, 30% Midfielder.

 

[Houso]

He's now a big fish and hasn't got the pressure of being a fan of the club wanting to do his best.

That and the ball falls to him 6 yards from the net.

While you make a good point about him playing to his strengths at Donny, a good half of his goals for Donny have been excellent efforts that he's made off his own back.

Ched Evans would have scored as many for Donny had he been there. That said, I find it interesting that a lot of the people shouting about Billy not being suited to Blackwell's style are very quick to slag off Ched without taking the same factor into consideration.

 

[Fiery Blade]

It's great that at this time of multiple posts on the same subject you've managed to think up a new and exciting area of debate.

Well done you!

Stop being one dimensional!

The thread was to open up the debate as regards the fact the if Blackwell goes before next season would a competant replacement utilise Billy and Ched rather than ditch them for peanuts?

 

[Compound_Legend]

Quite simple really...

Sharp is at his best when the ball is played quickly into him from either wing,and most importantly into feet.Look at the goals he scored for Scunthorpe and Doncaster and look at how the play is structured to get the ball to him.

Then look at what he's used to at the Lane...chasing hopeful punts forward which taller full backs will always win due to their stature. When he tries to lose them,or try to win the physical battle,he comes out second best due to a combination of either having strayed just off side to gain a yard on them,or poor refereeing.

Play football and you'd get the best out of Billy.Continue to lump it forward...well,do the math (as our American cousins say..)...

 

[Wards]

Quite simple really...

Sharp is at his best when the ball is played quickly into him from either wing,and most importantly into feet.Look at the goals he scored for Scunthorpe and Doncaster and look at how the play is structured to get the ball to him.

Then look at what he's used to at the Lane...chasing hopeful punts forward which taller full backs will always win due to their stature. When he tries to lose them,or try to win the physical battle,he comes out second best due to a combination of either having strayed just off side to gain a yard on them,or poor refereeing.

Play football and you'd get the best out of Billy.Continue to lump it forward...well,do the math (as our American cousins say..)...

Exactly.

That's why I'm hoping we can get O'Driscoll in the summer. I think we'd have a very handy front two if someone could get Billy and Evans to their potential.

 

[Foxy]

Big fish and pressure are a poor excuses !

Has Billy not looked like he's "tried to hard" at times for the Blades? I've definately got that impression on a number of occaisions.

He seems to thrive on being **the** goalscorer and being **the** popular one, you only have to look at him at Scunny and his relationship with the fans etc.

We had balls falling to players 6 yards out last two games and only Morgan and Monty could get onto them!

They've been few and far between and not the sort of chances Billy's been putting away at Donny.

It's not as if the strikers have been missing chance after chance, they haven't had them to miss!

People were chanting for him on Tuesday, I doubt he'd have even had a shot, never mind scored.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Has Billy not looked like he's "tried to hard" at times for the Blades? I've definately got that impression on a number of occaisions.

He seems to thrive on being **the** goalscorer and being **the** popular one, you only have to look at him at Scunny and his relationship with the fans etc.



They've been few and far between and not the sort of chances Billy's been putting away at Donny.

It's not as if the strikers have been missing chance after chance, they haven't had them to miss!

People were chanting for him on Tuesday, I doubt he'd have even had a shot, never mind scored.

They were chanting for him out of irony!
It does seem bizarre that we are having our problems yet Billy is banging them in for Donny, Cotterill is suddenly the catalyst to transform Swansea into a Premier League Play off certainties both deemed not good enough for the Blades yet we turn out performances like Blackpool, Watford, palace and peterborough

 

[SwissBlade]

They were chanting for him out of irony!
It does seem bizarre that we are having our problems yet Billy is banging them in for Donny, Cotterill is suddenly the catalyst to transform Swansea into a Premier League Play off certainties both deemed not good enough for the Blades yet we turn out performances like Blackpool, Watford, palace and peterborough

Oh so it must be someones fault then

Cotterill never showed any consistent form for us and was kept out by Halford, because Halford did the job he was asked to do by the manager.

Oddly Halford isn't doing anything at Wolves, did nothing at Sunderland or Reading, but did it for us and Colchester.

Why does it always have to be someones fault! Some players just don't fit in at some places. Others do.

Billy is a different case in someways, but he didn't fit the role of the striker Blackie wanted. The odd thing was that Ched appears to be a similar type of player and he signed him.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

We've got a 15 goal striker and a manager who can't find a win.

Who to back, not difficult is it?

 

[Fiery Blade]

Oh so it must be someones fault then

Cotterill never showed any consistent form for us and was kept out by Halford, because Halford did the job he was asked to do by the manager.

Oddly Halford isn't doing anything at Wolves, did nothing at Sunderland or Reading, but did it for us and Colchester.

Why does it always have to be someones fault! Some players just don't fit in at some places. Others do.

Billy is a different case in someways, but he didn't fit the role of the striker Blackie wanted. The odd thing was that Ched appears to be a similar type of player and he signed him.

I was trying to unravel the conundrum
Why does Billy score goals for fun at the same level for a different club?
Why is Cotterill putting in better performances on a regular basis for another club at the same level?
Why does Evans score regularly at international level but has scored 3 goals all season for us?
Why does Harper look a shadow of his former self with the Blades?
Why has Howard kick started readings season when he could do bugger all with the Blades?
Why did Hulse start scoring again at Championship level after not scoring for a season with us after injury?
Why do we have injury crisis after injury crisis with players out for months at a time naysmith, Speed, Geary, Williamson, Ward, Henderson, Evans, Morgan Could it be training, fitness I don't know the answer to this but there is one common denomonater Mr Blackwell
If he's not the fault he knows the answers!!!

 

[boo radley]

When Billy Sharp has played for the Blades he was rubbish

I didn't think he was rubbish just played in the wrong way.
Blackwell said he wanted pace in the side and Billy was not quite fast enough for him. Trouble is he forgot most of his atributes were tricky feet -which also looked quite clumsy. But i bet if you assessed Billy's wing play (although we did not want him there) he got more crosses in than cotts ever did. He is also providing assists at Donny. So if Blackwell had signed a 'twin brother' of billy we would be scoring loads.imagine him in the box on the end of his own crosses because he rarely failed to get a cross in when he found himself on the wing.
Jamie ward / Billy Sharpe parneship for me please.

 

[Ted Danson]

I was trying to unravel the conundrum
Why does Billy score goals for fun at the same level for a different club?
Why is Cotterill putting in better performances on a regular basis for another club at the same level?
Why does Evans score regularly at international level but has scored 3 goals all season for us?
Why does Harper look a shadow of his former self with the Blades?
Why has Howard kick started readings season when he could do bugger all with the Blades?
Why did Hulse start scoring again at Championship level after not scoring for a season with us after injury?
Why do we have injury crisis after injury crisis with players out for months at a time naysmith, Speed, Geary, Williamson, Ward, Henderson, Evans, Morgan Could it be training, fitness I don't know the answer to this but there is one common denomonater Mr Blackwell
If he's not the fault he knows the answers!!!

We need to bring back Tony Daley! Since he left our fittness levels seem to have plumeted and we seem to get injuries all the time. Losing him is another thing we've got Nobson to thank for

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

When Billy Sharp has played for the Blades he was rubbish
How come Billy Sharp can score 15 goals already this season for a supposedly inferior side

I think you've answered your own question there, they're not an inferior side. They may have inferior players on paper but they are certainly a much better 'team' than we are and O'Driscoll certainly gets players to play to their strengths and doesn't try and turn them into something they're not.

Billy Sharp needed to improve his all round game which Robson started to try and do but O'Driscoll recognises that he's a striker 1st and foremost and plays him as one.

I'm not pretending that he's a world beater but the myth that he isn't good enough for Championship level seems to have been somewhat diluted in the last few months.

 

[Big Mart]

Don't see where Donny have inferior players to us. Lower paid players maybe but I'd hazard a guess that most of their lads can control a ball and pick a pass, simple skills that most of our lot are sadly bereft of.

Donny play a simple game well, we play a destructive game poorly.

:gallop:

 

[SwissBlade]

I don't know the answer to this but there is one common denomonater Mr Blackwell
If he's not the fault he knows the answers!!!

There could be more than one common denomowhatsit...

 

[FleaPitBlade]

There's no such thing as a striker who doesnt fit a system.

The whole point of a game of football is to score more than the other side, so you get your strikers and get the rest of the team to create chances for HIM.

When you have a player who scored 35 goals a season and then 15 in half a season, it would make a great deal of sense to see exactly what Donny and Scunny are doing for him that we arent, bring him back, and play in a way that ensures he's scoring them for us and not someone else.

Billy would be back at Bramall Lane in a shot if Blackwell went.... hopefully to play under a manager that recognises what he is, lets him get on with it, and doesnt try to make him into anything else.

 

[super_pig]

>and most importantly into feet
that is billys strength ..he has very good feet and can make half a yard in a congested area very quickly so that he can get shots off before the defenders can get on him.. so lumping it to him in the air is just plain stupid.. in fact lumping the ball in the air is plain stupid unless you have a couple of big fast blokes up front, quick supporting midfielders with a good engine and an ability to do set pieces.. we're useless at set pieces.. has anyone else noticed?

 

[oldblade]

He's now a big fish and hasn't got the pressure of being a fan of the club wanting to do his best.

That and the ball falls to him 6 yards from the net.

I would imagine that the fact that O'Driscoll doesn't play him on the wing and the ball is played in to his feet probably helps.

 

[mattbianco1]

Big fish and pressure are a poor excuses !
We had balls falling to players 6 yards out last two games and only Morgan and Monty could get onto them!

Yes cos Billy Sharps not here is he!

 

[HarrogateBlade]

Howard was shipped out from the club because he was 'strongly disliked' by many of the team members and had a negative effect on team morale. One of the first things he did upon meeting his new team mates was to brag about how he scored at Anfield for Barnsley in the cup, only to be told to fuck off by many of those who'd just play at Anfield, in the league. Billy's a great lad, and it's well documented he loves the club... but what do you expect when Blackwell's your gaffer?

I've also seen a few people suggest that bringing in Beckford from Leeds for next season. Once again, won't happen. Blackwell and Beckford have a mutual hatred of each other. I doubt he'd even consider as it seems the Premiership is his destination should he not sign for Leeds. Having first hand experience with Blackwell, he's an utter cock, proper snidy, yet wonderful towards the fans (trying to win our vote), when times get tough, instead of getting on with it, he'll bemoan his luck, and start going on about how he's done wonders at the club.

I've had patience with him, but now is the time to leave Blackwell. Thanks, now fuck off.