Mcburnie

[MightyBlades]

Thought Mcburnie had an excellent game and was one of our best players out there.

He put a right shift in, continually tracked back, put his head in where it hurt, didn't pull out of any tackles, linked up play nicely, gave the Liverpool defenders a torrid time all game and had a few shots on goal.

Have people forgotten that it was the current European Champions we were playing? Mcburnie is a quality signing and is getting better for us with every game. The goals will also come; it's just a matter of time.

Unitedites really do my feckin head in some times!

Actually, scrub that! Most of the time!

 

[Varkanoid]

When did he score 11 PL goals? Are you sure you're not confusing goals with appearances?

yeah I did what a plank. It was actually 10 goals at U21 level.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

There's a couple of things to consider:

1. He's trying to find his feet at this level, having never played here before.

2. And the one I can't get my head around, we seem to be playing him as a target man, when he isn't and we don't suit that style of play anyway. Think of that break through year he had at Barnsley, he was class at running at teams, dribbling past his man. He seems to have lost that, and we need to help him find it.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

His best game today but he’s got Billy on his heels now he’s returning from his ban.

He should be playing with Billy , not one or the other .

I said before the season started that neither Robinson nor McG are natural finishers and that has been amply demonstrated in the proceedings so far .

Amidst all the euphoria about our performances so far , which I totally understand , I have a concern about our lack of ability to put away chances and believe this will only be rectified by playing our best two strikers on a regular basis .

 

[BanbridgeBlade]

This thread reminds me of some of the stupid comments after Egan’s first few games for us.

He’s started 4 league games for us!!!

 

[HackeyBlade]

Not seen a single thing to justify his price tag

 

[BushBlade]

Not going to read all nine pages of this silly thread but if you judge a footballer on his price tag alone you're not a very good judge of a footballer

It’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter whether he was free or £50m. He’s either good enough or he isn’t.

At the moment, the jury’s out. He did some good things, other bits not so good.

I watched the match sober and I thought for the first twenty we were looking to keep a clean sheet and our play was quite Bassett like. He didn’t do much. As we then started to play out more and pass the ball through midfield he came into it more.

But it’s obvious he’s still adapting to playing for us and playing at a higher level, as is Robinson and I don’t think they linked particularly well. Sooner or later CW has to decide on a starting partnership, so they get used to each other. It’s early days yet. I’m not really sure what people were expecting this season. And I don’t know how many players CWAK have to improve before some posters accept that players are capable of improvement.

 

[super_pig]

Not seen a single thing to justify his price tag

missed the Leicester game??

 

[HackeyBlade]

missed the Leicester game??

He did well for that goal I agree, however I don't think he even looks half the player that Moose is. No pace, too lightweight to effectively hold the ball up, and sometimes quite frankly looks lazy, doesn't chase down balls that Leon or Didzy would

 

[gurru991]

I do have to agree, McBurnie isn't worth 20 million.



I also see Jarrod Bowen is out of contract soon, maybe we could snap him up for a cut price in Jan? Not proven in the Prem, but he looks good and we might get him for a cut price, or they'll risk him going for nowt.

I think a lot of teams will be looking at Jarrod Bowen in January. He ticks a lot of boxes for clubs needing goals.

 

[blademark]

I do have to agree, McBurnie isn't worth 20 million.

Not yet maybe, but we have a history of slow starters becoming legends. We have at least 4 or 5 in the team currently.

 

[Brownieblade]

I like McBurnie, but a lot will disagree and laugh but I actually think Gary Madine holds the ball up better. Not a dig at McBurnie just my opinion. Was a little disappointing that we didn’t by Madine. £3 million worth a punt? McBurnie will improve but he does need to work on parts of his game.

I was disappointed as well TBH, I even posted in the rumours thread. Not saying he would be a better option than who we signed but if we could have got him cheap then he would IMO been that different option for Last 10/15 mins of game

 

[Brownieblade]

Personally I would still sign him and spend the same now for him, has to be a period of stepping up to higher level and bedding In

 

[Brownieblade]

Personally I would still sign McBurnie and spend the same now for him, has to be a period of stepping up to higher level and bedding In

 

[sheff_blade90]

Not yet maybe, but we have a history of slow starters becoming legends. We have at least 4 or 5 in the team currently.

Paul Coutts for 1. its often forgotten in great praise he given that if at infamous Scunthorpe game, if dean hammond was enemy number 1 then Coutts was enemy number 2

 

[blademark]

Paul Coutts for 1. its often forgotten in great praise he given that if at infamous Scunthorpe game, if dean hammond was enemy number 1 then Coutts was enemy number 2

True, and add to that list 4 out of the now famous back five, all written off by quite a few at various points in their early careers with SUFC.

 

[Cheesebored]

Not yet maybe, but we have a history of slow starters becoming legends. We have at least 4 or 5 in the team currently.

Please stop using the term legend to describe some players. Coutts improved immeasurably to be a fine player in a good midfield but surely not a legend, the same as 4 out of the back 5 aren't legends.....yet!

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I agree. Leon to retire from playing to join the coaching staff.

Anyway I noticed again that our resident media whore got his fizzog all over the screen again on Saturday.

 

[blademark]

Please stop using the term legend to describe some players. Coutts improved immeasurably to be a fine player in a good midfield but surely not a legend, the same as 4 out of the back 5 aren't legends.....yet!

OK boss, sorry. I was going to add that this is arguably our best defence in my very long lifetime, but perhaps you might object?

 

[Cheesebored]

OK boss, sorry.

Don't be.

 

[Barney]

It takes a certain kind of 'fan' to slag any of our players off today. Obviously people who have just started watching is and don't know how far we have come. What's the Kevin banner insult? Totally over my head

No sane person would slag McBurnie off.

Lots of plastics just turning up for the PL football.

Bet they weren't at Bury away or Walsall away in 2015/16.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Anyway I noticed again that our resident media whore got his fizzog all over the screen again on Saturday.

Apparently so - not seen it myself yet.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Nobody see that chance he made for mcgoldrick against soton ??

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Whilst we're on the topic of McBurnie, and it's all about opinions, but how wank is that McBurnie chant?

That's some gentle chanting, boys.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I hate to put a dampener on things but for me, he currently isn't worth 17/20 Mill.

We completely change our way of playing for him, go direct and predictable. However he very rarely wins headers and more often than not good down, too lightweight, getting muscled off. When he does win headers (goal aside) then he doesn't direct them properly.

Hope he improves, but when Billy, didsy and Leon are still in the mix, then your front men aren't doing it.

UTB

I wouldn't worry too much about whether we paid the right price for him - that's pretty irrelevant now and the way that inflation affects the game it will seem like peanuts in a few years time. What I'd be most concerned about is whether he's of the quality that we need to lead our attack in the Prem?

I think he's an enthusiastic, awkward, bit of a handful, that gives us something different up top - but lacks the quality and finesse to be a top class striker at this level. I suspect that's what you are thinking as well?

 

[MalvernBlade]

I don't think it's fair to write players off for performances against Europe's best. But I do think our defence with a Vardy or similar up front would be very tasty. Trouble is they are like rocking horse shit. I'm hoping our guys grow in confidence a bit.

That's why I think so many changes to the side for the cup games was a tad frustrating as it should have been used as a way for the team to get more minutes on the pitch playing together to build up the partnerships and understanding, create some confidence and give minor tweaks like trying L Freeman behind McBurnie and the Moose, giving Norwood a rest if Fleck and Lundstram give us more defensive cover. I know it was to avoid risk of injury but McG got injured training to shoot

 

[Cheesebored]

OK boss, sorry. I was going to add that this is arguably our best defence in my very long lifetime, but perhaps you might object?

You were going to add but you didnt? If you had I may have agreed but you didnt. How long is a very long lifetime 80, 90, 100?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

OK boss, sorry. I was going to add that this is arguably our best defence in my very long lifetime, but perhaps you might object?

I think you're right about that. I must be honest, I thought we'd get done for pace a lot more this season and that players like O'Connell and Egan would be exposed. I don't think either are particularly fast or able to recover once someone goes past them. But their positioning is generally excellent and so is their level of commitment and we have pace in Baldock and Basham in particular, so it's all working out well so far. And of course, Stevens is emerging as an immense player in his own right. TBH I think he was the first player to really take advantage of being in the Premier league rather than looking scared of it. He seems to have got the attitude that "I'm good, and I'm going to show them what I can do". Whereas some of the others have been a bit nervous and apprehensive, but they are surely growing into it.

Badger, Hemsley, Flynn, Colquhon, Powell. They were the back 5 when I was a lad - and they were good - but collectively I think the current back 5 are better.

 

[1889]

I’ve made it clear on other threads that I’m not a fan of McBurnie, but in fairness to him, I think he had possibly his best game for us on Saturday. It wasn’t easy and he worked hard, caused problems for Van Dyke, who will have much easier Saturday afternoons this season.

Whilst McBurnie hasn’t hit the ground running, I think Mousset has had a dream start and maybe some people are getting carried away as a result. But to me, he still doesn’t look fully fit yet. I can see that he’s got all the attributes required to be a great striker, but I’d have to question his dedication & professionalism, for letting his fitness lapse to such an extent in the first place and for taking so long to shift the extra weight, he is obviously still carrying. Consequently, I don’t think he’s in a position to start.

 

[blademark]

Badger, Hemsley, Flynn, Colquhon, Powell. They were the back 5 when I was a lad - and they were good - but collectively I think the current back 5 are better.

I go back a bit earlier to Gerry Summers era, but the 5 you mention were good, but not as reliable as the current unit. We were never renowned for being particularly mean in defence in those days.