Radio Sheffield

[sitwell]

That was what annoyed me last night ,they wouldn't let the old guy get his point across. He was trying to say that RS say we shouldn't hark back to the past but RS do it to suit their adgenda and was using the Beattie situation as an example. They wouldn't let him finish his point and attempted to shout him down and ridicule him ,however it rebounded on them and they made themselves look amateurish and pathetic.

 

[Bladesway]

That was what annoyed me last night ,they wouldn't let the old guy get his point across. He was trying to say that RS say we shouldn't hark back to the past but RS do it to suit their adgenda and was using the Beattie situation as an example. They wouldn't let him finish his point and attempted to shout him down and ridicule him ,however it rebounded on them and they made themselves look amateurish and pathetic.

Mainly because the point he was trying to make had no substance whatsoever, like most who call in. I heard him blethering on about stats regarding BT and how he couldn't use them. They are 12 months old and not relevant. The league table is, end of argument as I see it.

As I said earlier, no one seems to have addressed the point they were making. Football has changed, there are three clubs off to court this morning to keep the taxman from the door, there WILL be many going down the toilet in the coming months and years. I say good. Perhaps the game will eventually be returned to the people who should own it. You, me and everyone else who supports a team somewhere. No matter who it is.

Just ask yourselves why we are the laughing stock of local football right now? Because we stand 7th in the table, a place where many would love to be and all we do is moan. Moreover we don't back it up with anything of substance (unlike many do on places like here to be fair to them). Its usually a bit like this.....

"I'm ringing in because Blackwell is rubbish seth"

"Go on then caller, why?"

"Well he is, look at him jumping about on the touchline he doesn't have a clue"

"And why doesn't he have a clue caller (insert Brian or somesuch stain)"

"Because he doesn't. He plays Henderson up front, he sold BT, Kilgallon, and the two Kyles"

"And you don't think he got good money for them caller?"

"Thats not the point, he's useless"

And round, and round, and round.

I'm still waiting for someone to lay a metaphorical punch on the man who is actually to blame for it all, but he is hiding in Brussels or somewhere like. Blackwell is limited, but he is also operating with both hands and feet tied behind his back right now.

As for him spitting his dummy out and having a pop at KM, give it a rest. Its like having the best job you are ever going to have in your life and then chucking it down the toilet. For Blackwell it is the best job he is ever going to have, so why stir up the shit pot?

McCabe has lied and he should solely handle the blame for all and everything that is going wrong right now. Players being sold because of him, lies about Europe in 5 years, Clubs all over the world and a hotel that we don't actually need. All at the expense of SUFC the football team. However, if the man came out now and was totally honest with us he could change all that in the blink of an eye in my opinion. Its still not too late Kev, but it will be if you keep on hiding.

 

[Houso]

The Radio Sheffield presenters have to play devil's advocate and they also have to pander to the clubs in the area as much as possible.

I don't see why everyone gets their knickers in a twist about them.

 

[Darren]

BBC Reading or whatever it is are always worth a listen to after a game because they screen out the reactionary morons?

When did "reactionary" start to mean something different? I always thought it was a political term generally meaning someone of an extreme conservative disposition and that still seems to be the accepted dictionary definition http://www.answers.com/topic/reactionary.

From your post, it seems to mean someone who reacts in a knee-jerk way and I have seen other people on here use it on here in the same way. Is this just an SUFC thing?

It interests me anyway

 

[Linz]

When did "reactionary" start to mean something different?

From your post, it seems to mean someone who reacts in a knee-jerk way and I have seen other people on here use it on here in the same way. Is this just an SUFC thing?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reactionary

re⋅ac⋅tion⋅ar⋅y [ree-ak-shuh-ner-ee] adjective, noun, plural -ar⋅ies. –adjective 1. of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction esp. extreme conservatism or rightism in politics; opposing political or social change.

Can be used particularly, but not solely, in political terms.

 

[Darren]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reactionary


Can be used particularly, but not solely, in political terms.

au contraire - your definition suggests it is purely a political term - i.e. it is someone who opposes political or social change.

I'f be interested if you could find me an example anywhere else where the word is used to mean people who react without thinking (which is the way you are using it I think).

 

[bblade88]

i listened in last night and genuinely could not believe what i was hearing from walker and bennett which was low even by there standards.
They lambast fans for coming on and saying 'blackwell is a clown' and asking the same questions re. finances repetitively yet there repetitive drowns of 'youve got to cut your cloth accordingly' and 'you're 6th/7th' after every point that is made by blades fans - makes me want to smash my radio up!! They think that all blades fans are 'moronic' and are suicidal and depressing, yet loads of blades phone the radio show in night after night - most of which are concerned and upset about what is happening on and off the field - surely a light switch must be going off in there head or is it not actually conceivable that there are problems down at the lane just because we are at the heady heights of 7th? walker and bennett should be sacked - they encourage people to phone in and then shout them down or cut them off if it is not sung off their hymn sheet & i dont even know how bennett is a broadcaster with some of the language he uses eg. last night: " some performances were good, some were less good" - what a dickhead

 

[Wards]

au contraire - your definition suggests it is purely a political term - i.e. it is someone who opposes political or social change.

I'f be interested if you could find me an example anywhere else where the word is used to mean people who react without thinking (which is the way you are using it I think).

I would hope she has far more interesting things to do with her time to be honest

 

[Linz]

au contraire - your definition suggests it is purely a political term - i.e. it is someone who opposes political or social change.

The use of the word "especially" in the definition doesn't mean "solely" or "purely".

 

[JohnDenver]

I stopped tuning into these programmes long ago. The only thing to tempt me is when a major interview is scheduled - McCabe, Birch or similar.

It's the age of the idiot. Halfwitted callers and presenters bouncing off each other's stupidity. It's just a symptom of the quantity of coverage outweighing the quality - now spread so thin you can see through it.

One of my earliest footy memories is of Bob Summatorother doing the Saturday Radio Sheffield sports show. Whenever United needed a goal he'd play some marching band music. At least it was different...

 

[Linz]

I stopped tuning into these programmes long ago. The only thing to tempt me is when a major interview is scheduled - McCabe, Birch or similar.

I do try and avoid Football Heaven if possible, I find myself cringing.

As licence fee payers, you do have the right to complain. If you feel particularly strongly about it, the details are here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/

 

[Darren]

The use of the word "especially" in the definition doesn't mean "solely" or "purely".

Yes, but the primary definition is a person favouring etc "reaction", which in this context means political reaction. I challenge you again to find a quote outside these hallowed halls using reaction in your sense.

I love semantic arguments, me.

 

[SESKU Blade]

>FIVE current players are on 70% of the wage bill
one of those better NOT be quinn, or there will be a military incursion

Naysmith,Henderson,Sharp,Monty,Morgan ?(or poss Speed if still down as a player)

Ched must be one of the five - McCabe said when we signed him that he's one of highest earners in the championship, then again he also told us we'd signed a £3m striker

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Doesn't the fact that Blades are lining up to make these points ,Blades that attend every week can see that we are in a false position and we have no direction and a very dodgy immediate future. Blackwell is not up to it and Radio Sheffield will not have it heard. Wendy were the same with Laws ,he was great until he got sacked ,now they can slag him off ,that isn't impartial journalism ,thats arse licking.

Like you sitters, I was a big Warnock fan. I well remember the 02-03 season when we finished 3rd in the league and reached two semi finals. I also remember "fans" regularly ringing up during that season demanding that Warnock be sacked. If I was the presenter back then, "moron" would have been the most polite term I used in response.

Maybe Walker overreacted in this particular instance but I suspect it's the steady "drip...drip...drip.." effect of humouring Brian and his ilk night after night that finally took it's toll. Personally, I don't mind the presenters taking the persistently "moronic" idiots such as that to task. However, it does sound like he spread his fire a bit too widely on this occassion.

 

[super_pig]

the problem is caused because RS make an attempt to come across as impartial in classic BBC style.. they're not and frankly they can't be or SUFC would refuse them broadcasting rights .. best thing to do here is stop bloody ringing in

 

[Sothall_Blade]

One of my earliest footy memories is of Bob Summatorother doing the Saturday Radio Sheffield sports show. Whenever United needed a goal he'd play some marching band music. At least it was different...

Bob "Let's go around the grounds" Jackson. All we used to get was a match report every 15 minutes and the full classified check at 5 PM, all in crackly AM Mono. And people moan about the quality of coverage today!

I'll always remember Jackson's stock response to any female caller was the marvellously sexist "thanks for ringing in love, now I'll let you get your husband's tea on". Imagine the reaction if Paul Walker said summat like that.

 

[Bramley]

I do try and avoid Football Heaven if possible, I find myself cringing.

As licence fee payers, you do have the right to complain. If you feel particularly strongly about it, the details are here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/

It just surprises me that people genuinely get so irate about this kind of stuff. Surely use that energy to do something constructive in your life.

 

[Bramley]

Ched must be one of the five - McCabe said when we signed him that he's one of highest earners in the championship, then again he also told us we'd signed a £3m striker

Harper. :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

 

[Linz]

It just surprises me that people genuinely get so irate about this kind of stuff. Surely use that energy to do something constructive in your life.

Surely if something offends you that you pay good money for though, you have every right to complain?

The BBC are accountable to most of the people complaining (personally, I don't pay the licence fee). And it's alright whinging on here about it, if they care strongly enough, they should do something about it.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

If I receive bad service, I like to complain. Those complaints should be treated the same as compliments by the company that receives them. Your customers are telling you what is wrong with your company, why would you not listen to them?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I think it depends on your view of what the role of a radio phone-in presenter should be.

For me, they should be an objective neutral, skilled at interviewing callers to allow them to eloquently voice their opinions which should be the majority of the programme.

It shouldn't be about what Paul Walker thinks (this is Paul Walker, who was at the Riverside last night). It shouldn't be about what Seth Bennett thinks (he who watches that bobbins known as ice haaackey).

It should be about what the callers thinks, inviting normal people to call in and argue the points raised in previous calls for balance.

Now it is difficult because football fans aren't particularly well-known as a group of people for having balanced and reasonable opinions that they can put across without the need to eff and jeff. But it is possible.

BBC Reading or whatever it is are always worth a listen to after a game because they screen out the reactionary morons and allow sensible people on who put their points across well. Interestingly, the majority of callers have also been to the game in question and so are able to have a discussion with the presenter instead of taking the presenter/commentator's word as gospel about how they performed.

This is what I would do.

1) Seeing as they get the most airtime, it is mainly idiots who phone in.

These are people incapable of discussion and who just want to say "Barnsley are crap", "Blackwell out" or "Irvine can have my daughter". They are unable to justify their opinions beyond their opening diatribe and you can just imagine them frothing at the mouthpiece of the phone.

They would stop getting airtime. More reasonable people would be encouraged to call. These would be people with all manner of opinions but have the ability to properly explain themselves to garner some kind of discussion.

2) I'd dedicate one night per week to one team. Monday = United, Tuesday = Wednesday, Wednesday = Barnsley, Thursday = Chesterfield Friday = Rotherham. Saturday is for post-match reaction for everyone.

That way, there would be an on-going thread throughout the evening which would encourage discussion between callers instead of one-way soap boxing which the presenters feel the need to counter before they cut to the next call from a Millers fan or whatever.

It would also allow the presenter most familiar with the team to host that evening's calls in an attempt to get the best out of the callers.

3) A personal bugbear. That bloody "playback" section of the calls on 30 minutes. I do not have ADHD. I might be nearing the end of a long day, but you are really underestimating your audience if you think they cannot remember what was said over the last 1800 seconds.

Produce a show for idiots, you get idiots.

4) The presenters. They need knocking down a peg or two.

As commentators, they wish their view of the game to be taken as gospel. They encourage this by allowing so many people on who haven't actually been to the game and who blow smoke up their arse.

"Haven't been to the game Paul, but listened to your wonderful commentary..."

Ge'or. How do you know it's wonderful? You can't bloody see it! I know for the exiles and those who don't travel that RS provide a useful service, but I'd hope that most people take what they say with a massive dollop of salt.

Therefore, more people who have been to the games should be allowed through the screening process and encouraged to call. This ensures that listeners are getting a myriad of opinions about the games concerned rather than What Paul Walker Thinks About Everything And Woe Betide Anyone Who Disagrees.

For a phone-in, they should take a back seat. It should be 50 minutes of calls and 10 minutes of open questions to further debate from the presenters as well as introducing the next caller.

5) Shit-stirring. Radio Sheffield love it. There's a reason Blackwell isn't impressed with Radio Sheffield and there's a reason Neil Warnock went through stages of refusing to talk to them. There's a reason they were banned from Oakwell.

It's the same today.

Seth Bennett on Twitter: Sethb45 - Football heaven was pretty fiery last night. Well worth a listen back on iplayer

They love the controversy. It's like kids in a playground. Perhaps if they took a more professional attitude, the clubs would treat the station differently and it would become a good platform for raising issues with the teams?

I would agree with much of that. On matchdays, the first “screening” question should be “have you been to the match?” and if they haven’t, they don’t get on. Also, what does the match summariser (e.g. Edwards) do after the match? Send him outside to talk to the fans who’ve just seen the game and put together a montage of the more articulate comments for broadcast on the next show.

 

[Toronto Blade]

Alot of the so called "I'm a Blade"callers are simply fans of other clubs calling in to stir it.
Either the presenters can't see through them or they allow it to add some spice to the show.
It would be easy just to say thats your
opinion and move on.

 

[lenners]

Ferk me, just listened to some of that programme and it was disgraceful.
Not only were they rude and offensive to Blades fans but then allowed some nomark from Coronation Street to say what he liked about United with no intervention and then agreed with a Barnsley fan that said United - and Barnsley - were simply good Championship clubs and nothing more.
It amazes me that they are unable to grasp that United fans are no different to football fans the world over and that a deluge of complaints about the football at the Lane is reflective of something more than a bunch of morons.
It also opens them up to fans now using language about presenters and other clubs similar to that used by themselves because they clearly believe that's acceptable.
I really doubt the BBC hierarchy would be impressed with what Walker said or how he acted last night.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

some nomark from Coronation Street

Who was that, Len?

 

[lenners]

Who was that, Len?

No idea though Walker seemed so excited he had an actor phone in.
Radio Sheffield have lost a lot of credibility after last night for me, it was really, really poor from a station and presenters that we (morons) pay for.

 

[happyhippy]

Some pig fan who has got the gig as being someone's lodger, apparently.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Must admit I haven't watched since the days of Thomas Craig being in it!

 

[Bramley]

Surely if something offends you that you pay good money for though, you have every right to complain?

The BBC are accountable to most of the people complaining (personally, I don't pay the licence fee). And it's alright whinging on here about it, if they care strongly enough, they should do something about it.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

If I receive bad service, I like to complain. Those complaints should be treated the same as compliments by the company that receives them. Your customers are telling you what is wrong with your company, why would you not listen to them?

Maybe Paul Walker stepped over the mark, but generally the coverage is good. It makes me laugh that people are actively seeking out to listen again just to express their indignation about it, suppose everyone has to have a hobby.

I'd wager all the people mouthing off on Football Heaven would never do anything anyway. They prefer their character assassination and conjecture delivered at arm's length.

 

[Trevor Hockey]

Must admit I find it mildly amusing that some on here and other message boards are being so self rightious about this when they have regularly called Blackwell and others far worse things for many months.

The point RS made - albeit very badly - was that if you're going to call and comment back your argument up with something rather than what has happened for many months with people ringing in and just saying "...he 'ant gorra clue" or "..he's tactically naive" give examples then it can be discussed !!

UTB

 

[lenners]

Maybe Paul Walker stepped over the mark, but generally the coverage is good. It makes me laugh that people are actively seeking out to listen again just to express their indignation about it, suppose everyone has to have a hobby.

I'd wager all the people mouthing off on Football Heaven would never do anything anyway. They prefer their character assassination and conjecture delivered at arm's length.

I listened to it to see how people whose wages you and I pay were describing Blades fans.
Radio Sheffield cover matches reasonably well but their coverage of how our clubs are run is absolute garbage.
But then when you get a bunch of morons trying to grapple with finances and politics it's bound to be too much for them.

 

[Rattly Noise]

But then when you get a bunch of morons trying to grapple with finances and politics it's bound to be too much for them.

Are you having a go at the people on this forum?