The Market value of Every SUFC Player.....

[RMBlade]

That makes it worse. There's so much lazy journalism that we now see it as a defence that the writer probably knows how terrible their sources are.

I’m not saying I agree with it, just giving a reason why they may do it. Just from the link posted in this thread alone they probably have more visits than their average article. Then there is Danny’s alternative article which will have a similar amount.

Easy publicity/money for very little work. Do you think Danny’s article (how it should have been written in the first place) would have gained as much publicity if it wasn’t for the TransferMarkt article?

 

[blade53]

Had to laugh tonight at the BT commentators bigging up Bradley Dack as if he is some kind of World super star. A value of 15 K was mentioned! Now he is a decent player I will admit , but no more than that . Played against us twice this year & he hardly had a kick.He's about on par with Ryan Leonard.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Had to laugh tonight at the BT commentators bigging up Bradley Dack as if he is some kind of World super star. A value of 15 K was mentioned! Now he is a decent player I will admit , but no more than that . Played against us twice this year & he hardly had a kick.He's about on par with Ryan Leonard.

£15,000?

 

[knowsnowt]

They're worth nowt, the lot of em. If they were McCabe would have sold em. I read it on here.
Btw the star is nothing but shite click bait. Why would anyone expect anything else of it?

 

[Akinbiyi]

Sorry Danny boy, you've just rendered your list obsolete with this one

7 John Lundstram TM 675,000. DH 2m
'Cost more than 675,000 when he signed from Oxford, and has since had two years of experience in the Championship under his belt.

And 2mil for Stearman, 2mil for Bryan, 1mil for Washington

 

[stringer]

Sorry Danny boy, you've just rendered your list obsolete with this one

7 John Lundstram TM 675,000. DH 2m
'Cost more than 675,000 when he signed from Oxford, and has since had two years of experience in the Championship under his belt.

And 2mil for Stearman, 2mil for Bryan, 1mil for Washington

What would be the point in selling them now for anything less? Or at all?

 

[Akinbiyi]

What would be the point in selling them now for anything less? Or at all?

Lundstram we would struggle to recoup what we paid
Stearman we would not run a double your money profit on
Bryan has played 1 game since he came, he's not even worth a million on his experience/pedigree
Washington we picked up for free 6 months ago and he's hardly featured, he's not worth a million

 

[stringer]

Lundstram we would struggle to recoup what we paid
Stearman we would not run a double your money profit on
Bryan has played 1 game since he came, he's not even worth a million on his experience/pedigree
Washington we picked up for free 6 months ago and he's hardly featured, he's not worth a million

What would be the point in selling them now for anything less? Or at all?

 

[Akinbiyi]

What would be the point in selling them now for anything less? Or at all?

That's not what the point is, they are very unrealistic valuations

 

[stringer]

That's not what the point is, they are very unrealistic valuations

That’s exactly the point, that’s what a valuation is. If someone offered less than my figure for those four back-up players, I wouldn’t sell them as I think it’d be difficult to get replacements of the same quality for a similar price. You obviously disagree but that doesn’t make them wrong

 

[Akinbiyi]

That’s exactly the point, that’s what a valuation is. If someone offered less than my figure for those four back-up players, I wouldn’t sell them as I think it’d be difficult to get replacements of the same quality for a similar price. You obviously disagree but that doesn’t make them wrong

You think we’d turn down an offer of 500k for Washington? Or an offer of a million for Lundstram?

Get real

 

[stringer]

You think we’d turn down an offer of 500k for Washington? Or an offer of a million for Lundstram?

Get real

Did I say that? I said I would. Who would you sign to replace Washington in Jan for £500,000?

 

[Grappler]

Billy Sharp for £1 million - or do they mean his shirt?

I bloody hope they mean his shirt, I have a signed one!

 

[Akinbiyi]

Did I say that? I said I would. Who would you sign to replace Washington in Jan for £500,000?

Replacing a 5th choice barely Championship level striker. Jhee, that must be expensive.

We have 2 similar forwards out on loan. Or we could just play Dowell/Duffy off a striker if 3 of the 4 got crocked mysteriously.

 

[stringer]

Replacing a 5th choice barely Championship level striker. Jhee, that must be expensive.

We have 2 similar forwards out on loan. Or we could just play Dowell/Duffy off a striker if 3 of the 4 got crocked mysteriously.

And yet they’re still out on loan. So rather than just keep the striker already at United you’d completely rip up the formation?

 

[Akinbiyi]

And yet they’re still out on loan. So rather than just keep the striker already at United you’d completely rip up the formation?

Chris has already spoke of Dowell/Duffy playing together behind a striker together...

 

[Sean Thornton]

Absolutely not. FWIW, here's ours

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...e-s-how-much-we-think-they-re-worth-1-9539001

I quite like Lundstram but £2m ? Don't see it myself.

 

[stringer]

I quite like Lundstram but £2m ? Don't see it myself.

That’s fair enough as they’re completely subjective. Right now, second in the league, I wouldn’t sell him for much less. Put it another way, would Leeds or Norwich sell their fourth choice CM this window for less than £2m? Who’d come in?

 

[Tezza1889]

To be fair they have just taken the values from TransferMarkt. It isn't the writers opinion or anything.

Still a pointless article except for getting clicks which I guess is their aim.

Apparently it’s something they don’t do, it’s all original content, so take that accusation back young man

 

[stringer]

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[Millhousesblade1889]

Replacing a 5th choice barely Championship level striker. Jhee, that must be expensive.

We have 2 similar forwards out on loan. Or we could just play Dowell/Duffy off a striker if 3 of the 4 got crocked mysteriously.

If we’re offered £500k for Washington I think we would let him go, appreciate it’s all hyperthetical.

That £500k would pay a decent loan fee + wages....yes that’s only judging it short sightedly, but at the end of the day Washington’s rubbish and he will be released at some point.

 

[Carlton Blade]

If we’re offered £500k for Washington I think we would let him go, appreciate it’s all hyperthetical.

That £500k would pay a decent loan fee + wages....yes that’s only judging it short sightedly, but at the end of the day Washington’s rubbish and he will be released at some point.

If we were offered £50k for Washington I'd be shocked. Short term contract, no goals in 30. He's a lower Champ to mid table L1 player. Pace is his only real asset from what we've seen

 

[Hamatik]

Washington worth more than Hendo? Bizarre. Is that actually based on statistics, or has someone just picked numbers out the air?

 

[Hamatik]

If we were offered £50k for Washington I'd be shocked. Short term contract, no goals in 30. He's a lower Champ to mid table L1 player.

Looks a League 1 player to me all day long. He works hard when he comes on, but I just don't see him offering anything. Expected a little bit more of him tbh.

 

[YES Blade]

Absolutely not. FWIW, here's ours

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...e-s-how-much-we-think-they-re-worth-1-9539001

You should be negotiating the transfers at the Lane! Those figures are wildly optimistic for most.

Jake Wright - £500k - He’d be heading to League One, which club would pay that?
Leon Clarke - £3m - we’d be lucky to get half that, he’s nearly 34, he’s likely to go to a Championship relegation team or League One when he leaves (basically teams with no/little money)

What players are worth to us and what their market value is are two different things.

 

[stringer]

You should be negotiating the transfers at the Lane! Those figures are wildly optimistic for most.

Jake Wright - £500k - He’d be heading to League One, which club would pay that?
Leon Clarke - £3m - we’d be lucky to get half that, he’s nearly 34, he’s likely to go to a Championship relegation team or League One when he leaves (basically teams with no/little money)

What players are worth to us and what their market value is are two different things.

Accept that, it’s very subjective, but think Jake Wright would be a good buy for a L1 club at £500k (which is hardly breaking the bank).
Leon’s value based on him apparently being 3rd choice striker. As I said on another thread, go and inquire about the third choice striker of, say, Leeds and Norwich and see what you’d be quoted

 

[Akinbiyi]

Accept that, it’s very subjective, but think Jake Wright would be a good buy for a L1 club at £500k (which is hardly breaking the bank).
Leon’s value based on him apparently being 3rd choice striker. As I said on another thread, go and inquire about the third choice striker of, say, Leeds and Norwich and see what you’d be quoted

That doesn’t make any odds. They might just be better than Leon.

 

[YES Blade]

Accept that, it’s very subjective, but think Jake Wright would be a good buy for a L1 club at £500k (which is hardly breaking the bank).
Leon’s value based on him apparently being 3rd choice striker. As I said on another thread, go and inquire about the third choice striker of, say, Leeds and Norwich and see what you’d be quoted

£500k isn’t breaking the bank at Championship level, but at League One it’s a decent fee and they aren’t going to send it on a central defender who is nearly 33 and out of contract in the summer. If Jake leaves before the end of the season it will be a loan or a free after we have paid him up.

Leeds and Norwich’s third choice strikers aren’t 34! That’s the difference, sign Bamford or Roberts from Leeds and you’ve got a player that can still be playing at this level in 5 years time with a resale value.

Even if you signed Jordan Rhodes there is at least another 3 or 4 years left at this level and you would probably be talking £5m-£6m tops these days.

Leon on the other hand, might do a job at Championship level next season but after that is pushing it. He’ll certainly have no resale value at 35, so paying £3m now would be crazy.

It’s the same with signing Duffy at 33, his career has been largely a success at League One level with a couple of good season with us in the Championship. Why would you pay £4m for that? He could be retired in a couple of years, you would want some potential for that kind of money and some resale value.

 

[stringer]

£500k isn’t breaking the bank at Championship level, but at League One it’s a decent fee and they aren’t going to send it on a central defender who is nearly 33 and out of contract in the summer. If Jake leaves before the end of the season it will be a loan or a free after we have paid him up.

Leeds and Norwich’s third choice strikers aren’t 34! That’s the difference, sign Bamford or Roberts from Leeds and you’ve got a player that can still be playing at this level in 5 years time with a resale value.

Even if you signed Jordan Rhodes there is at least another 3 or 4 years left at this level and you would probably be talking £5m-£6m tops these days.

Leon on the other hand, might do a job at Championship level next season but after that is pushing it. He’ll certainly have no resale value at 35, so paying £3m now would be crazy.

It’s the same with signing Duffy at 33, his career has been largely a success at League One level with a couple of good season with us in the Championship. Why would you pay £4m for that? He could be retired in a couple of years, you would want some potential for that kind of money and some resale value.

I’m not doing it from the POV of any prospective buyers. I did it from the point of view of SUFC. Taking your Duffy example, if you don’t think he’s worth £4m and they sold him for, say, £3m. Who are you replacing him with for that amount?
Clarke might not be comparable to Bamford in terms of ability but he’s still the third choice striker for a team very much in the automatic promotion picture. If you’d sell him at this stage for less then that’s your opinion but I think it’d be madness to

 

[YES Blade]

I’m not doing it from the POV of any prospective buyers. I did it from the point of view of SUFC. Taking your Duffy example, if you don’t think he’s worth £4m and they sold him for, say, £3m. Who are you replacing him with for that amount?
Clarke might not be comparable to Bamford in terms of ability but he’s still the third choice striker for a team very much in the automatic promotion picture. If you’d sell him at this stage for less then that’s your opinion but I think it’d be madness to

I’m going off the dictionary definition of market value - “the amount for which something can be sold on a given market”.

If we sold Duffy and Clarke the chances are they wouldn’t be replaced like for like with two players aged 33 and 34, so obviously it’s likely to cost more for a 26 or 27 year old, but you’re getting a younger player with the potential to still be at the club in 5 years time and could be sold for a profit.

If we signed signed two players of a similar age with similar CVs, do you think we would be paying £7m combined?