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Never seen a tactic like it before. Every single kick bombed with serious accuracy just short of the touchline making our player commit to trying to make a header he couldn't control or let QPR have possession. We never really got to grips with it. Thought at the time put the CB from that side on their player rather than the wing back for the extra height.
 



Never seen a tactic like it before. Every single kick bombed with serious accuracy just short of the touchline making our player commit to trying to make a header he couldn't control or let QPR have possession. We never really got to grips with it. Thought at the time put the CB from that side on their player rather than the wing back for the extra height.
I said the same to my grandson. Most every kick was spot on the touch line.
 
Never seen a tactic like it before. Every single kick bombed with serious accuracy just short of the touchline making our player commit to trying to make a header he couldn't control or let QPR have possession. We never really got to grips with it. Thought at the time put the CB from that side on their player rather than the wing back for the extra height.
I commented on the same thing - it got a bit harder as the wind got up but his kicking was superb.
 
Never seen a tactic like it before. Every single kick bombed with serious accuracy just short of the touchline making our player commit to trying to make a header he couldn't control or let QPR have possession. We never really got to grips with it. Thought at the time put the CB from that side on their player rather than the wing back for the extra height.

We put O’Connell out there once in the first half but their guy beat him to the header as well because he could jump really well (obviously why they were doing it). After that we didn’t bother doing it again, focusing more on winning the second ball if Stevens didn’t win the first.

Personally I didn’t think there was anything to have to ‘get to grips’ with as they weren’t getting anywhere from it, I couldn’t understand why they persevered with it.
 
He aimed for the right wing back, and on at least 3 occasions he was standing off the pitch and came on to try and head it. I don't think that's within the rules as I think a player can't leave (unless accidentally) or re enter the field of play without ref's permission?
 
We pressed QPR high very successfully; completely negated their intention to pass the ball out from the back from goal kicks. They couldn't go long as their usual big lad, Hemed, was unavailable for this game, and Wells is never going to win anything much. In the end they resorted to kicking it diagonally which was also unsuccessful.
 
He aimed for the right wing back, and on at least 3 occasions he was standing off the pitch and came on to try and head it. I don't think that's within the rules as I think a player can't leave (unless accidentally) or re enter the field of play without ref's permission?

Wilder and Knill were fuming about it but the 4th official wasn't interested.
 
He aimed for the right wing back, and on at least 3 occasions he was standing off the pitch and came on to try and head it. I don't think that's within the rules as I think a player can't leave (unless accidentally) or re enter the field of play without ref's permission?
How is that rule phrased? When taking a throw-in or a corner, does a player have to ask 'May I leave the pitch, ref?'
 
How is that rule phrased? When taking a throw-in or a corner, does a player have to ask 'May I leave the pitch, ref?'

This from the FA laws of the game. It seems clear, but then so is the 6 second rule for goalkeepers to hold the ball. Yesterday their keeper held it for at least 11 seconds. Later on Hendo did the same.

CAUTIONABLE OFFENCES

A player is cautioned if guilty of:
  • delaying the restart of play
  • dissent by word or action
  • entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
  • failing to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner kick, free kick or throw-in
  • persistent offences (no specific number or pattern of offences constitutes “persistent”)
  • unsporting behaviour
 



Thought their keeper's kicking was excellent and they could all play at the back.
Can see why they've picked up in results but their problem was running into blind alleys in the final third and carrying little threat after the pretty stuff at the back.
 
Bert made the same point yesterday on deadbats thread. A couple of people disagreed and said his kicking was terrible.
It wasn't, it was the most accurate Bert has ever seen.
His kicking wasn't terrible, you're right Bert, but it certainly wasn't the most accurate we've ever seen. He put at least two kicks, maybe three, directly into touch. And Henderson is not as bad at kicking as you think - most of his efforts went to places where our strikers, particularly McGoldrick, were waiting to contest the header.
 
This from the FA laws of the game. It seems clear, but then so is the 6 second rule for goalkeepers to hold the ball. Yesterday their keeper held it for at least 11 seconds. Later on Hendo did the same.

CAUTIONABLE OFFENCES

A player is cautioned if guilty of:
  • delaying the restart of play
  • dissent by word or action
  • entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
  • failing to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner kick, free kick or throw-in
  • persistent offences (no specific number or pattern of offences constitutes “persistent”)
  • unsporting behaviour
I know it's a stupid thought, but when winning by one goal with 30 seconds to go, it would waste some time to go the ref and ask for permission to leave the field of play to take a throw-in. There doesn't appear to be blanket permission there.
 
The GK didn't want to kick any of them.

We split their defenders for what seemed to be every single goal kick - we simply refused to let them take short goal kicks and keep possession. We in effect starved their creative players like Freeman and Eze from getting on anything like quality balls.

They managed to get out a couple of times near the end - but they were desperate and taking chances.

We quite simply did a job on them - great coaching by our lot.

UTB
 
I too thought it strange that they persisted with it for 90 minutes when clearly it wasn't working. Enda got beat to a couple in the first half but very soon we just won the second balls. I could understand it to an extent because obviously Wells wasn't going to win any headers against our back three, but more often than not it seemed to cause them more problems in their half.
 
This from the FA laws of the game. It seems clear, but then so is the 6 second rule for goalkeepers to hold the ball. Yesterday their keeper held it for at least 11 seconds. Later on Hendo did the same.

CAUTIONABLE OFFENCES

A player is cautioned if guilty of:
  • delaying the restart of play
  • dissent by word or action
  • entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
  • failing to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner kick, free kick or throw-in
  • persistent offences (no specific number or pattern of offences constitutes “persistent”)
  • unsporting behaviour

The 6 second rule for goalkeepers has been changed hasn’t it? I thought it was now ‘referees discretion’ or something along those lines.
 
It's not really "leaving the field of play", is it? That would surely be going down the tunnel or into the crowd or something?

If that specific tactic counts as "leaving the field", then what about when a winger pushes it down the line and runs the wrong side of the line to beat a defender, with the ball still in play?

I accept the wording could be better, but this specific ploy seems to be stretching it a bit - seems to me that the rule is about stopping people going into the crowd or off for a piss without the ref's permission.
 
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The 6 second rule for goalkeepers has been changed hasn’t it? I thought it was now ‘referees discretion’ or something along those lines.

Looking at the 18/19 laws it doesn't seem to have changed:-

An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
  • controls the ball with the hands for more than six seconds before releasing it
 
It was obvious what he was going to do every goal kick, it didn’t really work out Did it?
 
What a ridiculous statement.

Post up Fridays Euro millions numbers. Ta.

Why is it ridiculous? After the first 15 minutes I knew which part of the pitch the goal kick would go to each time, it wasn't hard to work out. You obviously didn't have a clue? :tumbleweed:
 
Why is it ridiculous? After the first 15 minutes I knew which part of the pitch the goal kick would go to each time, it wasn't hard to work out. You obviously didn't have a clue? :tumbleweed:

Yea. I obviously didn't have a clue so I posted a thread about it being a major feature of their tactics.
You should come down from the rarified atmosphere of ranmoor to planet earth occasionally. Youd be amazed.
We have running water, mains gas and electricity as well as indoor toilets.
What we don't have is a smug totally unmerited superiority complex.
Guess that comes with snobishness and faux intelligence.
 
My dad thought he was playing a game of ‘how close can I get to the touch line when the ball goes out of play’.

My memory is the vast majority of his kicks went straight out for a throw in. Dreadful kicking.
 



Yea. I obviously didn't have a clue so I posted a thread about it being a major feature of their tactics.
You should come down from the rarified atmosphere of ranmoor to planet earth occasionally. Youd be amazed.
We have running water, mains gas and electricity as well as indoor toilets.
What we don't have is a smug totally unmerited superiority complex.
Guess that comes with snobishness and faux intelligence.

So you thought it was obvious, hence the OP, but you're having a dig at Ranmoorblade for also saying that it was obvious? What?
 

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