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Last season we played on the front foot playing hung-ho attacking football.
The problem is we were open and sometimes got caught conceding late goals going for the win instead of settling for the draw.

Early this season, we’d start matches quickly on the front foot dominating matches.
Then we’d tire second half and in the last 10 minutes we’d sit back in numbers defending deep trying to hold on to the lead.

So I was impressed how we played the game against QPR.
Leading 1-0 we stopped being gung-ho, we still attacked but it was with intelligence and patience.
We also didn’t panic sitting back trying to defend the lead.

Instead we continued to control the game keeping possesion making sure QPR had to defend most of the match. It ended up only being 1-0 but we never had to get out of 3rd gear, were never in trouble and won quite comfortbably with a very professional display.
 
My point exactly .
We were naive last season . Only won one way . As you point out that's been addressed; as we pace our selves better over 90 minutes. We are not running out of steam now but still maintain overall control in games
 
I thought we were pretty poor yesterday, still struggling to create clear cut changes, and a couple of players seems to be off their normal high standards, however we'd have lost of drawn that game last year.
Still would like us to bring some quality fire power in during this window if we're going to seriously challenge for a top 2 position, but if we can keep winning when we're not at 100% then anything is possible.
 
Last season we played on the front foot playing hung-ho attacking football.
The problem is we were open and sometimes got caught conceding late goals going for the win instead of settling for the draw.

Early this season, we’d start matches quickly on the front foot dominating matches.
Then we’d tire second half and in the last 10 minutes we’d sit back in numbers defending deep trying to hold on to the lead.

So I was impressed how we played the game against QPR.
Leading 1-0 we stopped being gung-ho, we still attacked but it was with intelligence and patience.
We also didn’t panic sitting back trying to defend the lead.

Instead we continued to control the game keeping possesion making sure QPR had to defend most of the match. It ended up only being 1-0 but we never had to get out of 3rd gear, were never in trouble and won quite comfortbably with a very professional display.

Excellent assessment. The only thing was missing was us picking them off and getting the second goal, but it didn't matter in the end.
 
I thought we were pretty poor yesterday, still struggling to create clear cut changes, and a couple of players seems to be off their normal high standards, however we'd have lost of drawn that game last year.
Still would like us to bring some quality fire power in during this window if we're going to seriously challenge for a top 2 position, but if we can keep winning when we're not at 100% then anything is possible.

We weren’t poor yesterday. QPR were good at keeping us out but that’s all they had. We could have played all day and they wouldn’t have scored. Their only focus was on nullifying our game so it was always going to stifle us a bit.
 
I thought we were pretty poor yesterday, still struggling to create clear cut changes, and a couple of players seems to be off their normal high standards, however we'd have lost of drawn that game last year.
Still would like us to bring some quality fire power in during this window if we're going to seriously challenge for a top 2 position, but if we can keep winning when we're not at 100% then anything is possible.

Disagree, can’t remember QPR having a single chance to score.

It reminded me of a Bomber Graham boxing fight, where he’s technically so superior to his opponent that he builds up a massive lead at the half way point. At half time we were leading 1-0 and my main concern was it was almost “too easy” as QPR only tactic seem to be containment. Agree we didn’t have many chances but we were in full control. A boxing trainer would say “ you have a massive points lead so just work the jab and stay out of trouble then you’ve won”.

I felt like that yesterday. We coasted a little in the 2nd half and played too many sideways passes instead of forward passes.
However like a Spanish team we kept possession well and managed out a comfortable and professional win.

Why risk going for a 2-0 or 3-0 win, when it looked certain that unless we made a bad mistake a 1-0 win was in the bag.
 
We weren’t poor yesterday. QPR were good at keeping us out but that’s all they had. We could have played all day and they wouldn’t have scored. Their only focus was on nullifying our game so it was always going to stifle us a bit.
Agreed.

I thought we were very good yesterday.

We completely controlled the game and despite allowing them to have a lot of the ball between 45 and 65 minutes or so they never looked like hurting us.

A very impressive and professional performance from where I sat.

Not as entertaining as many have been in the last 3 seasons but a level of performance that we couldn't have even dreamed of when Wilder and Knill arrived.
 
Hull. They just might be the suprise that you don't expect.
Apart from the game at BDTBL, only seen seen them on Quest EFL. Very impressed with Bowen and Grosicki
 
Dean Ashton made a good point on Quests EFL program. Leeds and Norwich have had to rely on late goals to get points in games, where as we have gained points relatively easier. that has to tell on them at some point.

I understand this point but don't necessarily agree.

Good teams go right to the end and find ways to salvage points.

We've done it before in successful seasons under Bassett and Warnock, and Man Utd did it for years.

If you're not so good and have a run of a few late goals, then maybe, but Leeds and Norwich are up there on merit.

Equally we've given away soft late goals.

It's an interesting run in this time around.
 



Last season we played on the front foot playing hung-ho attacking football.
The problem is we were open and sometimes got caught conceding late goals going for the win instead of settling for the draw.

Early this season, we’d start matches quickly on the front foot dominating matches.
Then we’d tire second half and in the last 10 minutes we’d sit back in numbers defending deep trying to hold on to the lead.

So I was impressed how we played the game against QPR.
Leading 1-0 we stopped being gung-ho, we still attacked but it was with intelligence and patience.
We also didn’t panic sitting back trying to defend the lead.

Instead we continued to control the game keeping possesion making sure QPR had to defend most of the match. It ended up only being 1-0 but we never had to get out of 3rd gear, were never in trouble and won quite comfortbably with a very professional display.

Very well put. It was a performance where very little was wrong.
 
I thought we were pretty poor yesterday, still struggling to create clear cut changes, and a couple of players seems to be off their normal high standards, however we'd have lost of drawn that game last year.
Still would like us to bring some quality fire power in during this window if we're going to seriously challenge for a top 2 position, but if we can keep winning when we're not at 100% then anything is possible.

I certainly thought some of our passing was really sloppy, and some bad choices made in the final third.

QPR didn't trouble much and I thought we managed the game fairly well second half, but on another day a Freeman shot finds it's way into the corner.

I thought their persistent tactics of the keeper sweeping it out wide was a little strange because only once did it look like it cause us a problem.
 
We weren’t poor yesterday. QPR were good at keeping us out but that’s all they had. We could have played all day and they wouldn’t have scored. Their only focus was on nullifying our game so it was always going to stifle us a bit.
But we have seen us dominate games and then ship a late goal which has undone us.
Again, after the goal I can’t recall another real chance being carved and they did start to come out more after that point.

Disagree, can’t remember QPR having a single chance to score.

It reminded me of a Bomber Graham boxing fight, where he’s technically so superior to his opponent that he builds up a massive lead at the half way point. At half time we were leading 1-0 and my main concern was it was almost “too easy” as QPR only tactic seem to be containment. Agree we didn’t have many chances but we were in full control. A boxing trainer would say “ you have a massive points lead so just work the jab and stay out of trouble then you’ve won”.

I felt like that yesterday. We coasted a little in the 2nd half and played too many sideways passes instead of forward passes.
However like a Spanish team we kept possession well and managed out a comfortable and professional win.

Why risk going for a 2-0 or 3-0 win, when it looked certain that unless we made a bad mistake a 1-0 win was in the bag.
Good analogy with Bomber, but as you said he was out of sight by the 7th round. If we’d controlled the game from 2-0 I would agree at 1-0 we’ve seen recently we’ve been undone.
The positive I took from yesterday is that didn’t happen and as you say they didn’t get the opportunity.
 
But we have seen us dominate games and then ship a late goal which has undone us.
Again, after the goal I can’t recall another real chance being carved and they did start to come out more after that point.


Good analogy with Bomber, but as you said he was out of sight by the 7th round. If we’d controlled the game from 2-0 I would agree at 1-0 we’ve seen recently we’ve been undone.
The positive I took from yesterday is that didn’t happen and as you say they didn’t get the opportunity.

Us previously dominating games but conceding late goals doesn’t mean we were poor yesterday though. We completely controlled the game and although we didn’t create much we did exactly what was required.
 
I think the defence has got better through the season which is a key factor.

We have conceded 1 goal in the last 4 league games, which was a set piece. If we can maintain the same levels of defensive performance over the run in we are in with a great shout as we’ve got the players to score goals.

Dowell looked good when he came on yesterday.
 
Us previously dominating games but conceding late goals doesn’t mean we were poor yesterday though. We completely controlled the game and although we didn’t create much we did exactly what was required.
Again fair point and maybe my language was sloppy. I thought we were poor going forward and we should have created a couple more good chances to look to put us out of sight given the possession we had and that we scored reasonably early. If we’d seen the game out at 2-0 I’d be in agreement with you.
 
Henderson-Egan-Norwood-Sharp ,best spine in the division and some say Wilder cant do transfers.

Indeed - and Huddersfield did very similar when they went up a couple of years ago.

We are better than they were then - we CAN finish top 2 if we set our whole minds to the job - club, management, players and fans.

It's on for me and has been for a bit.

UTB
 
But we have seen us dominate games and then ship a late goal which has undone us.
Again, after the goal I can’t recall another real chance being carved and they did start to come out more after that point.


Good analogy with Bomber, but as you said he was out of sight by the 7th round. If we’d controlled the game from 2-0 I would agree at 1-0 we’ve seen recently we’ve been undone.
The positive I took from yesterday is that didn’t happen and as you say they didn’t get the opportunity.

Fair point.
I was saying to those around me that it looks like we’ve settled for a comfortable 1-0 win.
You really couldn’t see QPR scoring, their biggest threat was a couple of speculative long rangers from Freeman that just went past the post. In the 2nd half we seemed to coast/ conserve energy concentrating on keeping possession managing out the game but as you’ve said whilst ever it’s only 1-0 it could all go pear shaped.

Normally feel nervous in the latter stages when we have a 1-0 lead but it was different yesterday. QPR offered nothing up front so there was little to feel nervous about.
 
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Dean Ashton made a good point on Quests EFL program. Leeds and Norwich have had to rely on late goals to get points in games, where as we have gained points relatively easier. that has to tell on them at some point.

At some point we are going to need late goals hence Madkne, so any experience of doing it would be good. Hopefully we will carry on as we are though!
 
Only 9 more home games to watch this set of players we have at the moment :oops: , make the most of it cus one way or another things will change next season no matter what happens , Actually might see em 10 times cus I have a chance of a ticket at swillsbrough , only problem in the North stand with all the swine , should I ? could I ? , wont be able to keep quite though if we score !
 
Last season we played on the front foot playing hung-ho attacking football.
The problem is we were open and sometimes got caught conceding late goals going for the win instead of settling for the draw.

Early this season, we’d start matches quickly on the front foot dominating matches.
Then we’d tire second half and in the last 10 minutes we’d sit back in numbers defending deep trying to hold on to the lead.

So I was impressed how we played the game against QPR.
Leading 1-0 we stopped being gung-ho, we still attacked but it was with intelligence and patience.
We also didn’t panic sitting back trying to defend the lead.

Instead we continued to control the game keeping possesion making sure QPR had to defend most of the match. It ended up only being 1-0 but we never had to get out of 3rd gear, were never in trouble and won quite comfortbably with a very professional display.
Said this on another thread agree 100% , we won professionally yesterday , we seem to be growing as a team , play teams off the park Derby / Blackburn / Then dig in and play without getting ourselves into to much trouble Wigan / QPR
Not bad from a pub team with a fat lad from Sheffield up top
 
Only 9 more home games to watch this set of players we have at the moment :oops: , make the most of it cus one way or another things will change next season no matter what happens , Actually might see em 10 times cus I have a chance of a ticket at swillsbrough , only problem in the North stand with all the swine , should I ? could I ? , wont be able to keep quite though if we score !


If things carry on like this for us and for them, you might find a few more in the North stand with you
 



I wouldn’t say we’re smoking but we’re winning different types of games these days. Not so long ago, we’d have to be brilliant to win. Now we just find a way.

That’s probably more encouraging than anything.

Couldn’t agree more JD .. we’ve got a more savvy in game management this season .. scrappy game yesterday but gothe job done .
 

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