Club Xenophobe

[robbiez666]

My memory isn't great but I'm trying to think of the last United manager who had any desire whatsoever to sign foreign players. We've had the odd one here and there but mostly either from a British club and/or English-speaking as a first language.

I think Warnock is probably the last manager we had who actively tried to bring foreign players in.

As a club we put ourselves at a major disadvantage to our competitors and we become reliant on whoever is in charge performing miracles with British players no one else wants.

It would seem to me, given several managers have all shared the same reluctance to touch European players, that this might be something that comes down from a certain chairman. Which is odd given he's not shy of pimping the club around the world.

We're never going to ever be a sustainable club at a high level unless we broaden our horizons. We also end up signing players that we'd probably rather not.

 

[FinchleyBlade]

Doesn't seem to have worked out too badly then has it?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Wasn’t Howard Kendall (RIP) meant to be racist?

 

[Sean Thornton]

All that just to criticise McCabe.

 

[Bill Johnson]

Jesus H Christ.
Are there no depths some people won't sink to to batter our club.
Do one to S6.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Wasn’t Howard Kendall (RIP) meant to be racist?

I remember it being muted decades ago.
Think it was because Everton had no black players when every other club did.
So the conclusion was their manager Kendall must be racist but that’s too simplistic.

 

[McGrath]

We brought in a chairman from Saudi Arabia. That's not Xenophobic.

 

[robbiez666]

Wasn’t Howard Kendall (RIP) meant to be racist?

Wasn't that from the whole Everton thing when they had no black players? Weren't Katchuro and Fjortoft here under Kendall?

 

[shorehamview]

Who was the last good foreign player we had? Jan Age Fjortoft?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I could suggest FLN was a bit of a... ahem... ‘ray cyst’.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Player recruitment strategies based on foreign nationals are clearly problematic at the moment. Players from EU countries are likely to need work permits post March 2019.

 

[bromtom]

Don't think there's much choice. Every time we try and set up player trading agreements with clubs like we did a few times a few years back nothing came of it from what I remember, and our foreign scouting network doesn't exist does it? We'd probably be taking suggestions from the players based on FIFA 19.

 

[Bill Johnson]

Player recruitment strategies based on foreign nationals are clearly problematic at the moment. Players from EU countries are likely to need work permits post March 2019.

Puts us in the box seat then dosent it.

 

[Bladesman]

Don't think there's much choice. Every time we try and set up player trading agreements with clubs like we did a few times a few years back nothing came of it from what I remember, and our foreign scouting network doesn't exist does it? We'd probably be taking suggestions from the players based on FIFA 19.

If we did we may have landed Neal Maupay.

 

[Gavlar]

Freeman is welsh and Fleck is scottish and Stevens is irish. They are foreigners for sure............

 

[robbiez666]

Player recruitment strategies based on foreign nationals are clearly problematic at the moment. Players from EU countries are likely to need work permits post March 2019.

It's the one benefit of our blinkered approach!

It will be interesting to see what happens around work permits with young foreign players. The big clubs farm non-EU players out to smaller European sides so they can get citizenship and won't need a work permit. That door will probably close. Although, it's so intrinsic now I can't see us being classed as outside the EU when it comes to footballers.

 

[Weasel]

It would seem to me, given several managers have all shared the same reluctance to touch European players, that this might be something that comes down from a certain chairman. Which is odd given he's not shy of pimping the club around the world.

Blimey, ive read some shit on here in my time, but this is right up there with the biggest load. Apparently McCabes some sort of racist now..... utter total bollox. I could have sworn McCabe was Chairman when Neil Warnock was here and he signed his fair share of foreign players.

If I'm honest, having read a good number of your previous posts, I have serious doubts about whether you are actually a Blade anyway, and not just some sort of strange shit stirring pig fan.

 

[snootyfenooty]

United's approach to signing foreign players smacks of parochialism and that's putting it mildly. To suggest that we are correct in this and just about every other club around the world is wrong is absurd when you are able to target a global pool of players rather than a limited one. Especially in United's case as they are forever pleading poverty.

 

[SteveBlade]

Are we actually avoiding signing foreign players though or have we just not signed any foreign players for a couple of years?

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

The U23 XI which started today had a German, and three Frenchmen in it.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Who was the last good foreign player we had? Jan Age Fjortoft?

Enda Stevens.

 

[robbiez666]

Blimey, ive read some shit on here in my time, but this is right up there with the biggest load. Apparently McCabes some sort of racist now..... utter total bollox. I could have sworn McCabe was Chairman when Neil Warnock was here and he signed his fair share of foreign players.

If I'm honest, having read a good number of your previous posts, I have serious doubts about whether you are actually a Blade anyway, and not just some sort of strange shit stirring pig fan.

That hurts coming from someone to thick to understand the difference between racism and xenophobia.

I was kind of insinuating that Kev might have got burnt with the amount of money he spent on Shelton, Fathi etc that he may have made it an unofficial club policy.

 

[derfblade.3]

A dressing room where all the players and staff speak the same language? Disgusting.....i'm calling the police!

 

[Weasel]

That hurts coming from someone to thick to understand the difference between racism and xenophobia.

I was kind of insinuating that Kev might have got burnt with the amount of money he spent on Shelton, Fathi etc that he may have made it an unofficial club policy.

Yes you was in your own words 'insinuating'. You seem to do that a lot. You also seem to talk bollox a lot as well. You never know, keep looking hard enough and you might find something positive to say about the club one day.

Oh and it could just be a case of what our manager has previously stated I.e. he doesn't feel that he knew the foreign market enough?

 

[bladesadviser]

The U23 XI which started today had a German, and three Frenchmen in it.

Don't come on here with your fancy factual answers

 

[YES Blade]

I remember it being muted decades ago.
Think it was because Everton had no black players when every other club did.
So the conclusion was their manager Kendall must be racist but that’s too simplistic.

Kendall also sold Nathan Blake soon after taking over as manager which added to the racist rumour and I remember I first heard the rumour soon after the Blake sale.

Probably just 2+2=5 and being angry at the Blake sale.

 

[snootyfenooty]

The U23 XI which started today had a German, and three Frenchmen in it.

There's bit of a difference between that though and signing players you can slot in the 1st team squad. I think that was the jist of the OP.

 

[robbiez666]

Just by way of comparison, if you're arguing that we're challenging for automatic promotion, our competitors have:

Leeds - 22 foreign (outside the British Isles) players
WBA - 5
Norwich - 18
Boro - 7
Derby - 5

 

[Harry's Game]

Points deduction for xenophobia incoming...

 

[robbiez666]

Yes you was in your own words 'insinuating'. You seem to do that a lot. You also seem to talk bollox a lot as well. You never know, keep looking hard enough and you might find something positive to say about the club one day.

Oh and it could just be a case of what our manager has previously stated I.e. he doesn't feel that he knew the foreign market enough?

This isn't aimed at Wilder, it's a comment about the club. We're one of the only fairly wealthy clubs not to look outside the UK. Look at the make-up of Premier League teams. If we did go up we would have to surely expand our horizons. All our competitors are looking outside of the domestic leagues. We struggle at times to sign players or sign players who are 'risky' because we're only fishing in an over-inflated market.