Deano's Dramatic Dive

[wizadry]

When does Henderson time waste?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Is it just me who doesn't find anything endearing about our keeper wasting time?

I love his passion and I enjoyed his ribbing if the Derby fans, but I could do without some of the other antics, personally.

Anyone remeber Angus Gunn?

Exactly what I said on another thread. Would hope that’s a one-off.

 

[I should coco]

When does Henderson time waste?

Have you noticed that any routine second half save when we are winning, always requires him to drop on top of the ball and take his time getting up? Also he HAS to switch goal kicks from one side of the box to the other, when we are leading.

Other keepers are worse (eg Gunn), but Hendo is no innocent.

 

[wizadry]

Have you noticed that any routine second half save when we are winning, always requires him to drop on top of the ball and take his time getting up? Also he HAS to switch goal kicks from one side of the box to the other, when we are leading.

Other keepers are worse (eg Gunn), but Hendo is no innocent.

We’re winning 3-0 or 3-1 at the time, I’d hardly say that’s time wasting, and all the other sides were hardly trying to win the game, we had them in our pockets. Norwich was a completely different ball game as Gunn was doing it from literally the first minute, we always look to get on with the game until we have earned the right to slow the game down and conserve energy.

I hate time wasting but until something gets done about it then the fine lines will always be broken.

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Given the speed of the Lee Evans turnaround at BDTBL and now the apparent antics of Hendo towards him, you do have to wonder what his brief tenure was all about behind the scenes......

 

[Large Mendonca]

That's the sticking point for me; I don't really see the funny side.

I’d imagine that Tufty won’t either, seeing as he normally makes a point of respecting the opposition. Must say though, it made me laugh - I think it’s fine as a one-off incident.

 

[Rusty view]

That's the sticking point for me; I don't really see the funny side.

Initially I did think go on lad....but then we slate Norwich for doing it and even have a song about it, so it should really be discouraged.

I don't see how we should find it funny, yet get our knickers in a twist when it's used against us.

All keepers do it mind, they always take the goals kick from the opposite side of the box to where the ball goes out. They all insist on leaning their studs against the post before every kick (I kind of get that)

Plenty of it going on, but if we stopped the clock every time the balls went out, games would last 3 hours or so. For me the refs need to be stronger earlier. Stamp it out. Once players know they can get away with a few seconds they'll carry on doing it.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

Thing is it us, the fans who are getting cheated...we pay for 90 minutes of football but get about 45 minutes when the ball is actually in play. We really should demand more for our money...unless of course, we are 1-0 up with 5 minutes remaining

 

[Stanthemanfan]

Didn't someone say on another thread that he was actually shouting something at Fleck, who was off camera.

Well someone on fb streamed the match and he defo shouted at Evans because one of their players afterwards barged into deano, don't think ref saw it

 

[shrubbery]

Am I genuinely reading comments lambasting Hendo for timewasting? Really?

For fucks sake, try taking some pleasure from the good things in life like United’s recent performances including those from Hendo.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

You’ve gotta just love that kid. It’s a lonely life being a GK in this team at the moment, but he sure knows how to entertain himself............and us.

 

[Guesty]

Did Wilder apologise to a manager (I think it may even have been Paul Cook in the furst fixture) about Henderson's shenanigans?

I'm sure I read that on here, although it's had no noticeable effect on his performance as he still does it every game when we're ahead.

The funny dives, the celebrations, waiting for the forward before picking up the ball etc are all great. What's not so great is the antics at goal kicks, or when he has the ball in his hands. That's your actual timewasting and refs should be dishing out yellows far more freely to any 'keeper that does it.

 

[Booker4]

Hendo's a legend and a personality in a sport that doesn't have many these days. We should enjoy him for as long as we can. That dive is brilliant. A bit of time wasting is largely irrelevant against Wigan at 3 - 0 up. There was no way they were coming back from that even if they were still playing now!

 

[AWetFlannel]

The game was over.

It isn't the same as doing it at 0-0 or 1-0, nor is taking a small amount of time to let your team get in position.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Deanos a great keeper but needs to stop been a prat all the time , this love in is all getting a bit like when we had John brayford.

 

[wavy-blade]

I fear for his safety if he starts winding the pigs up in front of there kop , god help him if we score at leppers lane end and he runs and jumps all over the place on his own in front of there kop !
( I do hope this happens though ) lol .

 

[PokerBlade]

No it's not.

It's the bane of the modern game and it's getting worse. Ref's do SFA about it and just very occassionally give a keeper a yellow. That then gives them carte blanche for to carry on with the shithousery, as AFAIA, no keeper has ever been sent off for two time wasting yellows.

What refs do is ignore it entirely for the first 60 minutes in a game and then, if a team is losing, they will make a come hither hand signal at the keeper to tell him to hurry up. If no change is seen, the ref will repeat the hand signal, often following it up with walking a bit closer to the keeper and shouting at him. When this inevitably fails to make an impact, the ref will go over to the keeper and have a stern word with him. After, at the very most, two stern telling offs, the ref may then produce a yellow card provided the game is past the 83rd minute point.

Why exactly this is, given that the first instance of time wasting from any player should entail a yellow card, is anyone's guess, but this is the time honoured tradition of referees and it is not for the 20,000+ other people in the stadium to question.

 

[SWB]

Have you noticed that any routine second half save when we are winning, always requires him to drop on top of the ball and take his time getting up? Also he HAS to switch goal kicks from one side of the box to the other, when we are leading.

Other keepers are worse (eg Gunn), but Hendo is no innocent.

But that's football & protecting the scoreline is part of it.....everybody does it, not worth discussing really.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Just pause the clock like they do in every other sport when a player goes down etc....
would solve timewasting straight away simples

 

[boo radley]

1-0 up in the play off final in may one minute to go and his time wasting antics win the game ,how would you feel about him then , and don't get me wrong I hate all the time wasting bollox that's affecting the game now

How have time wasting tactics ever 'won' a game?
You cannot score a goal by time wasting and last I knew you won a game by scoring more goals than the opposition.

 

[Chali 2na]

Hendo's a legend and a personality in a sport that doesn't have many these days. We should enjoy him for as long as we can. That dive is brilliant. A bit of time wasting is largely irrelevant against Wigan at 3 - 0 up. There was no way they were coming back from that even if they were still playing now!

The game was over.

It isn't the same as doing it at 0-0 or 1-0, nor is taking a small amount of time to let your team get in position.

Surely if the games already over that's even less of a reason to fuck about?

 

[Aston max]

How have time wasting tactics ever 'won' a game?
You cannot score a goal by time wasting and last I knew you won a game by scoring more goals than the opposition.

I said antics not tactics
As for win a game just look at Norwich mind you that's not working out very well last couple of games

 

[boo radley]

I said antics not tactics
As for win a game just look at Norwich mind you that's not working out very well last couple of games

Antics, tactics, either way you cannot win a game by time wasting

 

[AWetFlannel]

Surely if the games already over that's even less of a reason to fuck about?

Letting the team get up the pitch, saving energy, reducing risk of injury?

Tbf I'm with you with most of what you are saying, I love that this team don't dive/fake injury/timewaste and it should be condemned when we do.

 

[PokerBlade]

Antics, tactics, either way you cannot win a game by time wasting

The result is determined by the all the events during the game. What you're saying is similar to saying that goalkeepers don't win games because they don't score goals. Sure, by that metric, but how many games do you think we'd win if we played without one?

 

[boo radley]

The result is determined by the all the events during the game. What you're saying is similar to saying that goalkeepers don't win games because they don't score goals. Sure, by that metric, but how many games do you think we'd win if we played without one?

Wow ! How amazing is that statement.
If a dog runs across the 18 yrd and deflects a shot going wide in to the goal.......

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

What refs do is ignore it entirely for the first 60 minutes in a game and then, if a team is losing, they will make a come hither hand signal at the keeper to tell him to hurry up. If no change is seen, the ref will repeat the hand signal, often following it up with walking a bit closer to the keeper and shouting at him. When this inevitably fails to make an impact, the ref will go over to the keeper and have a stern word with him. After, at the very most, two stern telling offs, the ref may then produce a yellow card provided the game is past the 83rd minute point.

Why exactly this is, given that the first instance of time wasting from any player should entail a yellow card, is anyone's guess, but this is the time honoured tradition of referees and it is not for the 20,000+ other people in the stadium to question.

Absolutely right, applies to most refs other than say Anthony Taylor who would not miss a golden opportunity to yellow card the keeper, maybe bypassing it straight away to produce a red.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If Henderson didn't play for us we'd think he was a prize dick....
I'll leave it at that...

......but he does play for us.
He's young, and he's showing a bit of personality. Maybe it's my immature nature but it made me laugh, just as his comments about Dowell's haircut did.
I genuinely do not see any harm in it, then again, I don't see why some of our fans get so wound up about the opposition players and managers give some back to us.
I also have no problem with opposition players celebrating in front of our fans when they score.
There's bigger things in life to get upset over, and it should be all part of the game with individuals able to control themselves.

 

[LSF]

Whooshhhh...

 

[DaleHillBlade]

He absolutely does exactly the right thing to slow the game down (or time waste) when we are in a winning position. What madness would return the ball quickly to the opposition when they are pressing for a goal and we don't need one.

Top work Keeps.