Should Blackwell have gone after the PO defeat?

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Everyone remembers his interview after the defeat. Maybe the powers that be should have said yes, let him go. And we will start afresh with a clean slate.

As good as his record was last season in getting us to the play off final his style of play was dirided all season and there were plenty of people who would'nt have been sorry for him to go.

So whats your take on things?

Personally i think he did a good job in getting us to the final. But after the defeat he should have gone.
 

he should have killed himself after we were relegated the other night
 
Of course he shud ...................

mind yer he shud never have been appointed in't first place. :rolleyes:
 
Of course he shud ...................

mind yer he shud never have been appointed in't first place. :rolleyes:
ABSOLOUTLEY BRILLIANT ,vague and a bit lacking in any kind of english or meaning
but brilliant none the less

ive just got one question for you beighton ,why do you go to bramall lane (assuming you do ) if its such horrendous experience for you ?

if i was you i wouldnt put myself through it
 
ABSOLOUTLEY BRILLIANT ,vague and a bit lacking in any kind of english or meaning
but brilliant none the less

ive just got one question for you beighton ,why do you go to bramall lane (assuming you do ) if its such horrendous experience for you ?

if i was you i wouldnt put myself through it

thought you were ignoring me ?
 
I find it interesting how Judge can post a sarcastic one liner and then take the piss out of another poster for posting a similarly brief post.

I think Blackwell should probably have gone after the play off defeat as he proved that day that when it comes to the crunch we'll bottle it.

I don't think his signings have been good enough this season, whether it's financial restraints or just lack of know how I don't know but Warnock managed to take us up on a budget and get his players playing attacking football. To think Warnock had a reputation for long ball. We played far more entertaining stuff with him in charge than we do now.
 
Probably should have gone? The man has had to more or less completely change his squad from the one he inherited 18 months ago. Last season alone the squad that ended was completely different / unrecognisable from the one that started. To deliver the results that Blackwell has (and does) given these circumstances is an astounding achievement, and at the very least he deserves some basic respect - i.e. not having his man-management / tactical awareness / media profile / transfer dealings slagged off remorselessly (most of the time without any evidence whatsoever) every time United don't win a game 4-0.
 
I wasn't slagging him of remorselessly, I just don't think he's the man to get us promoted. He got us close last season but I think that's the closest he'll get us. I don't think his signings have been of the required calibre to get us promoted.

The quality in Boro's, WBA's and Newcastle's squads looks far stronger than everyone else's in the division leaving the play-offs as our most likely route to the Premiership. As I said, I just don't think Blackwell's got what it takes to take us up via the play-offs looking at how we bottled it last time.
 
I find it interesting how Judge can post a sarcastic one liner and then take the piss out of another poster for posting a similarly brief post.

I think Blackwell should probably have gone after the play off defeat as he proved that day that when it comes to the crunch we'll bottle it.

I don't think his signings have been good enough this season, whether it's financial restraints or just lack of know how I don't know but Warnock managed to take us up on a budget and get his players playing attacking football. To think Warnock had a reputation for long ball. We played far more entertaining stuff with him in charge than we do now.

Aye and to think people were still calling for his head too.

The problem I have this season is nothing to do with Blackwell still being in charge, the problem I have is that we at times this season have showed the excellent combination of good passing football with 'The Long Raking Balls' (as a guy on radio sheffield yesterday pointed out it changes to this description if your in the premier, hoofball if your not).

The players have shown the ability to play both of these types of games, and showed it many of times in the goals we have scored, now I'd say they're both to our strengths if we use them right.
Sadly there seems to be a lack of focus on the field of play at the minute, players are getting too caught in mistakes they have made and just standing around (numerous players not closing down the last two long range shots down when we no its a possible weakness of the keepers, with possible confidence down) or behaving rashly and lunging in to tackles (quinn other night). We're making mistakes that have cost us games and wins. Now by no means do I feel just cutting Blackwells head off and then letting the team bleed out from within will help us (in fact I think he has done a decent job, with everything extra thrown in this seaon), but Blackwell and his coaching staff need to pull the players up and getting them doing the simple things right.Thats everyone player not just the one and not signalling them out, he clearly seems as frustrated as us. Maybe thats the true problem this season, on the training ground we are rushing things trying to get the players to do too much at once. This maybe effecting our play at times too, over thinking situations.


We still have that never say die spirit about us that we have a reputation for but this is not enough he needs to get the team focused and back on track, we need to go back to the basics and we need to freshen the field up a bit. Ward is out and his passion and guts are dearly missed as it seems to lift every player on the pitch, but now I feel we need the old calm head in, just like we had in Mccall was, I hope Glen Little will get a chance to play now(and Cotts resumes his better role as Impact player). Hopefully his older head will calm the players down because at times there starting to look like Robbo's headless chickens which leads to putting ourselves in stupid situations. (the headless chickens remark is reference to the goals we have been conceding)

My plea to the fans is this on Saturday lets get behind them, lets sing and chant our hearts out, lets get the passion back into the ground and stop feeling disappointed, frustrated and whatnot!, lets forget about the future or whats gone before or who we've signed, instead of all the negative lets just concentrate on each game as it comes lets be glad we've got a team to love, to support and lets try to do what the game is all about ENJOY ourselves, god help us it may just be another thing the players need.

UP THE BLADES!!!

P.S. if you don't sing and chant - or have served plenty of time doing this in the past years, then just try and enjoy it - If you are more of a pesismist then don't behave aggressively towards others just because they are there to enjoy the game or have different views, also don't get on at the older ones who like to just watch, if you like to sing and they aint, we all have a right to be there, we all have the god given right beacause we have spent our hard earned cash. We all show affilation to the this badge.


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I wasn't slagging him of remorselessly, I just don't think he's the man to get us promoted. He got us close last season but I think that's the closest he'll get us. I don't think his signings have been of the required calibre to get us promoted.

The quality in Boro's, WBA's and Newcastle's squads looks far stronger than everyone else's in the division leaving the play-offs as our most likely route to the Premiership. As I said, I just don't think Blackwell's got what it takes to take us up via the play-offs looking at how we bottled it last time.

I wasn't having a go at you personally, by the way sorry if I sounded like it! :)

I disagree about the signings; although none have come in and set the world alight, I still think he has improved our first team with Treacy alone (injury permitting), with better things to come (hopefully!) from Evans and Harper in particular. Its pretty clear that some of his newer signings are struggling for form, but this also goes for players who have been at the club a while (Kilgallon), plus some individual mistakes which will always happen to some extent. That said, after a reasonably solid start and a dodgy fortnight or so, we're still 6th, which is hardly a disaster.

The thing that suprises me is the grief Blackwell is getting for bottling the play-offs in advance. This might happen, but I don't see that Newcastle, WBA and Boro (in particular) have the top 2 sewn up just yet:
- although they should win the league due to the players they have, Newcastle will have a wobble at some point, and it will be interesting to see what happens then (I wouldn't be surprised to see the whole thing to go tits up - see also: Reading last season).
- WBA just gone turned over at Barnsley - good squad, but they're still only 4 points above us and have an inexperienced manager, who also has previous for bottling the play offs (the stick Blackwell gets beaten with)
- Boro are a car-crash waiting to happen. Interesting to see that their superior squad got beaten at home by Leicester....
 
I think Blackwell should probably have gone after the play off defeat as he proved that day that when it comes to the crunch we'll bottle it.

sorry fella, but it's simply impossible to argue that because of one defeat, he's proved he'll bottle every similar occasion.


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I wasn't slagging him of remorselessly, I just don't think he's the man to get us promoted. He got us close last season but I think that's the closest he'll get us. I don't think his signings have been of the required calibre to get us promoted.

The quality in Boro's, WBA's and Newcastle's squads looks far stronger than everyone else's in the division leaving the play-offs as our most likely route to the Premiership. As I said, I just don't think Blackwell's got what it takes to take us up via the play-offs looking at how we bottled it last time.

wouldn't you agree that the calibre of signings is more to do with resources available than persona;l choice? It's clear Blackwell would have preferred Beattie to Cresswell. Given this, your reasons for getting rid of Blackwell just don't stand up.

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Fair do's. I think if Newcastle's blip comes after the transfer window when their players can't get the mardies on and cry off to another club then there's no-one to touch them. West Brom, inexperienced manager or not, play good football but effectively so, Barnsley defeat aside, I think they'll last the course. Boro still have Lita waiting to hit form ;) Seriously though, I was saying to SBSP off here the other night, once the next transfer window rolls around we've nothing to worry about because of the players on the pitch that actually belonged to us, I couldn't see any that I'd be concerned about us losing bar Morgs and luckily he never seems to be fancied by other clubs. I just don't think our squad's good enough, let alone big enough.

Not meant to be a post full of negativity, just how I see our squad at the moment. I agree Treacy's a decent player though. How long is it since we actually had somebody that can take a proper corner?!
 
Didn't he do the same at Leeds?

well 2 or 3 wouldn't prove anything. Toss a coins several times and see how many times you get consecutive heads. You could easily argue that he did enormously well to get Leeds United, in the turmoil they were in, to a play-off final in the fist place.

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Anybody would think that Blackwell lost two play-off finals on purpose. Given the choice between promotion to the Premier League and a miserable coach trip home would anybody in their right mind choose the latter?
 
well 2 or 3 wouldn't prove anything. Toss a coins several times and see how many times you get consecutive heads. You could easily argue that he did enormously well to get Leeds United, in the turmoil they were in, to a play-off final in the fist place.
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That you could, and I'm not saying he didn't do well to get us into the play-off final in his second season with us either. I'm not saying he hasn't done well results-wise this season. I just don't think he's the man to get us promoted or that the squad he's built is good enough for promotion. But having said that, I didn't think Warnock was the man to take us up either. Let's just hope I'm wrong and if Blackwell is going to take us up it doesn't take him as long as it took his mentor Mr W.
 
Blackwell will not take us up because unfortunayely he is a nearly man
He is not a bad manager he is just not a good one - there are many like Blackwell in the game
I actually think he has gone as far as he can with the Blades and should have gone at the end of last season!
 
That you could, and I'm not saying he didn't do well to get us into the play-off final in his second season with us either. I'm not saying he hasn't done well results-wise this season. I just don't think he's the man to get us promoted or that the squad he's built is good enough for promotion. But having said that, I didn't think Warnock was the man to take us up either. Let's just hope I'm wrong and if Blackwell is going to take us up it doesn't take him as long as it took his mentor Mr W.

I don't think we'll go up either, but that's more to do with the rebuilding job (or cost cutting) that's underway - and that's no fault of Blackwell.

I do hold Blackwell responsible for the lack of composure and poor style of play on show most of the time, especially when I think the players have demonstrated much better. But he can't be held responsible for cost cutting, and statistically his results (especially considering the shower he inherited) can't be questioned either.

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Id agree perhaps McCabe should of accepted his resignation.
 
I don't think we'll go up either, but that's more to do with the rebuilding job (or cost cutting) that's underway - and that's no fault of Blackwell.

I do hold Blackwell responsible for the lack of composure and poor style of play on show most of the time, especially when I think the players have demonstrated much better. But he can't be held responsible for cost cutting, and statistically his results (especially considering the shower he inherited) can't be questioned either.

UTB

I wouldn't see a squad containing Beattie, Hendrie, Naysmith, possibly Hulse, can't remember when he left, and a fit Ugo and Speed a shower. It was more of an achievement that Robson had got them playing so badly.

Whilst I appreciate he's done well in terms of results, I don't think £2m on Henderson (but that's another four dozen threads) and however much it was (reported to be over £1m) on Cotterill, who I didn't rate when he was on loan either, is good business, especially if he is working to a tight budget.
 
I don't think we'll go up either, but that's more to do with the rebuilding job (or cost cutting) that's underway - and that's no fault of Blackwell.

I do hold Blackwell responsible for the lack of composure and poor style of play on show most of the time, especially when I think the players have demonstrated much better. But he can't be held responsible for cost cutting, and statistically his results (especially considering the shower he inherited) can't be questioned either.

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IN retrospect I believe Warnock lost it during the Prem League season with bad tactics, poor signings and no bottle (Aston Villa away)

Ha ha, if people have a problem with Blackwell's tactics / signings / bottle, remember the Premiership season for a textbook performance in completely losing the plot....Mamadou Seck....home game against Newcastle....away at Villa....Warnocks patented 4-5-1 / 9-0-1 formation.....ah the memories
 
I wouldn't see a squad containing Beattie, Hendrie, Naysmith, possibly Hulse, can't remember when he left, and a fit Ugo and Speed a shower. It was more of an achievement that Robson had got them playing so badly.

Whilst I appreciate he's done well in terms of results, I don't think £2m on Henderson (but that's another four dozen threads) and however much it was (reported to be over £1m) on Cotterill, who I didn't rate when he was on loan either, is good business, especially if he is working to a tight budget.

The quality of players were good, but the team was awful and relegation bound. The turnaround was unarguably impressive.

He's had to change that squad massively, due to financial constraints. Again, I don't think it's arguable that overall the results have been impressive given such a cost cutting backdrop.

There's no doubt that the money we've paid out for some of the big signings looks poor value at the minute.

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Ha ha, if people have a problem with Blackwell's tactics / signings / bottle, remember the Premiership season for a textbook performance in completely losing the plot....Mamadou Seck....home game against Newcastle....away at Villa....Warnocks patented 4-5-1 / 9-0-1 formation.....ah the memories

not sure I follow fella. Whilst I agree Warnock cocked up somewhat at the end of the premeirship season, I'm not sure what that's got to do with Blackwell and the here and now?

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not sure I follow fella. Whilst I agree Warnock cocked up somewhat at the end of the premeirship season, I'm not sure what that's got to do with Blackwell and the here and now?

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One has nothing to do with the other, but we're not going to let that stand in the way of a damn good waffle, are we? Are we? Don't let me down chaps, we need more waffle......
 

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