The Lunatics have taken over

[bricktop]

I've not been tonight due to work commitments (the first game at the Lane i have missed since last October when i was getting married abroad), and by all accounts we have not played well tonight but that is not what really concerns me.

I have heard that our young goalkeeper has been booed tonight (thats a good innovative new idea as it will smash his confidence to bits and when his confidence is shot to bits and he really is out of form you can blame your nemesis Blackwell and spew more and more bile towards him) , a new signing has been booed on to the pitch tonight, and coming on here it is like a lynch mob has taken over and the lunatics are running the asylum.

Well done all you Blackwell haters, i feel sorry for you that Ipswich didn't get a fourth, and that we managed to sneak a draw out of it as it would have been much much more satisfactory to your respective agendas if we had been tonked at home. Just imagine what a field day you could have had. Blackwell has got to go, Monty is crap, Bunn is Crap, Cresswell is crap, Cheap as Chips, forget promotion, and i can only imagine your disappointment that we didn't get pasted because it takes a lot of sting out of the pleasure you would have got out of being able to come on here and say 'i told you so'.

I've been a Lane regular for longer than i can ever remember, and i do go home and away and i remember the good times, and i can also remember the lean and even leaner times, and for the club to be in the position we are in at the moment, i would take this over some of the goings off occuring at the club in previous years.

I honestly miss the days of the 10,000 crowds at the lane, as the fans were loyal, and the fans weren't fickle, and we didn't get the idiots we have now who demand champagne football, landslide wins and romping away with this division and if they are not getting what they desire then they lambast the chairman, the club, the manager and the players and seem to want to denegrate the club, at every corner, and every turn.

When the knockers get what they want, and Blackwell out, we might as well just give up on the aspirations that us saner supporters have and join the bandwagon that want to drag this club down have started, and when the bandwagon stops then we will back where was years ago, scrabbling around at the foot of the championship or in the lower league, and the lunatics will have gone, the club blown to kingdom bastard cum, yet there will be a lone voice who has not attened the lane for years who will be smugly be able to tell all his mates 'i was right about Blackwell'.

All i can say is back to club, back the manager and if you don't like it, or you can't find it within you to stick with them in what they are trying to do at the given moment in time, then please feel free walk away and find something else to occupy your time as i have had enough of all the sniping, the bitching and the booing.

 

[Maidenhead]

well said Brownie

 

[happyhippy]

Hope you enjoyed the Desktop Motty though mate.

 

[LasVegasBlade]

I don't get to see the matches, so I suppose I feel as if those that do should appreciate that they can. Don't understand treating your own team like the opposition.

 

[Revolution]

I honestly miss the days of the 10,000 crowds at the lane, as the fans were loyal, and the fans weren't fickle, and we didn't get the idiots we have now who demand champagne football, landslide wins and romping away with this division and if they are not getting what they desire then they lambast the chairman, the club, the manager and the players and seem to want to denegrate the club, at every corner, and every turn.

First, this is garbage. Pick just about any game in 1985-6, to name just one season, and you've got crowds of that size with more booing than you heard last night.

Second, this is hypocrisy of the highest order. Two words: Shoes Off.

 

[grafikhaus]

While I agree with a lot of that, Brownie, things have changed.
I certainly don't hanker for the days of 10,000 crowds. Our crowds (at the moment, but this will change) are magnificent, the ground and atmosphere is superb but, like so many things nowadays, the expectations have rocketed.

We are now expected to challenge at the top. This is because of our season in the PL, the desire to keep ahead of Wendy and - not least - we have spent a lot of money by CC standards with no visible signs of raised quality on the pitch.

We've got Blackwell and must stand by him. Don't forget the pressure he's on from above to sell our best players, somehow replace them and cut the wage bill at the same time. Does anybody think KB wanted to sell the Kyles? BT? Not offer Killa his contract?

Last night, despite the fightback, was a disappointment. If we are serious about promotion, we've got to be beating teams like Ipswich. Despite all the hype about this being a tough division. It's turning out, as usual, to be piss poor with everybody beating everybody else. It's crying out for a team to take it by the scruff of the neck.

Expect more of the same on Saturday. Doncaster can play without fear as they're happy to be in the CCL, the manager is not under ridiculous pressure and they're a tidy team.

 

[Micalijo]

Plenty of car park demos in the 80s Brownie.

I think the crowd in general is very generous given the garbage we are watching.

Your post is totally ruined by saying people are gutted Ipswich didn't get a fourth.

You honestly think that a squad like ours is playing the football it is capable of? Maybe it is and the players are rubbish - in which case KB deserves credit for getting results out of them. Whatever, it is very, very painful to watch

 

[matth]

Well done all you Blackwell haters, i feel sorry for you that Ipswich didn't get a fourth, and that we managed to sneak a draw out of it as it would have been much much more satisfactory to your respective agendas if we had been tonked at home.

"Respective agendas" - don't talk shite. The team were woeful, the tactics were non-existent, the crowd voiced their displeasure. There's no fifth-column style conspiracies or secret agendas. The crowd react to what's in front of them - in last night's case, a load of crap.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

"Respective agendas" - don't talk shite. The team were woeful, the tactics were non-existent, the crowd voiced their displeasure. There's no fifth-column style conspiracies or secret agendas. The crowd react to what's in front of them - in last night's case, a load of crap.

Booing a player, before he's even set foot on the pitch in a Blades shirt, suggests there were plenty of agendas at work last night.

My son is at Uni in Sheffield, as long-standing Blade it had a little influence on the choice of campus. With the student ticket offer last night, he went and persuaded a couple of others in his house to go along. They aren't Blades but decided to go with him. They sat in the South stand, the other two were impressed with the ground, the facilities and the level of support. However, they then sat in their seats and found themselves sat in front of a character, the type of which is probably well known on here. Tom reckoned he was in his 50s, and as they sat down he was loudly moaning about the new screen and how shite it was, then he heard the team news and moaned and moaned about that. He then continued to moan and moan and moan and moan about everything. When Hendo got the first, he was lucky and he's still shite. By mid-way through the second half, the two that went with him were asking if all Blades were like this and that they just couldn't put up with that every week. There's two less for the next game!

 

[lenners]

The only people with agendas are those who claim there's some kind of conspiracy aimed at the club, players, manager etc.
It's absolute ballcocks.
The booing was about the massive underperformance.
As for the classic good old days garbage, I remember Porterfield hounded out in the 80s.
I also remember John Gannon getting it, again in the 80s. I seem to remember he did fine in the end but maybe he was playing under a better manager.
United's fans have always been prepared to give it some - as have fans at many, many clubs.
The only agenda that counts is United's football. That's what we go and watch, spend money on, invest our time in.

 

[Bladesman]

"Respective agendas" - don't talk shite. The team were woeful, the tactics were non-existent, the crowd voiced their displeasure. There's no fifth-column style conspiracies or secret agendas. The crowd react to what's in front of them - in last night's case, a load of crap.

Exactly also there were elements of booing well before the likes Cresswell took to the field. By the way when Cresswell did come on Id say a handful booed at most and the rest drowned it out applauds. I heard and saw more booing sat above the dug out against Port Vale which was once again another poor performance. Although don't let that stop people from having a pop at the fans to try paper of the cracks of what was a totally shit performance.

 

[super_pig]

creswell is a wednesdayite and has been vociferous over the fact in the past. this hasn't escaped some of the fans attention so this kind of thing was inevitable.. if he has anything about him he will win the fans over.. he doesn't get instant respect just because he is wearing the shirt.. the shirt has the respect.. not the player in it.

 

[MAQ]

creswell is a wednesdayite and has been vociferous over the fact in the past. this hasn't escaped some of the fans attention so this kind of thing was inevitable.. if he has anything about him he will win the fans over.. he doesn't get instant respect just because he is wearing the shirt.. the shirt has the respect.. not the player in it.

I believe you do make a good and valid point, and as such this applies to every player past and present who either isnt liked by the fans or goes through a bad spell. To this end yes it is upto him to win the fans over and prove that he is for the cause.

However, regardless of this, i still believe that booing players is counter productive and therefore i dont agree with it. The biggest issue is the lack of clarity in the boooing! ........

.........and as back-up i provide you this example.

When cotts was subbed the boo's were ringing around the ground. Now this could be taken as dissaproval to the change itself/The performance of the player going off/the fans opinion of the player coming on! and to be honest, there could quite easily be all of those opinions being voiced at the same time, but who's to know. This could then mean that Cotts head drops because he thinks the fans are on his back or the same to little, as for the change itself, i doubt the fans opinion would make any difference to Blackwell

Just my 2p worth

 

[matth]

Booing a player, before he's even set foot on the pitch in a Blades shirt, suggests there were plenty of agendas at work last night.

My son is at Uni in Sheffield, as long-standing Blade it had a little influence on the choice of campus. With the student ticket offer last night, he went and persuaded a couple of others in his house to go along. They aren't Blades but decided to go with him. They sat in the South stand, the other two were impressed with the ground, the facilities and the level of support. However, they then sat in their seats and found themselves sat in front of a character, the type of which is probably well known on here. Tom reckoned he was in his 50s, and as they sat down he was loudly moaning about the new screen and how shite it was, then he heard the team news and moaned and moaned about that. He then continued to moan and moan and moan and moan about everything. When Hendo got the first, he was lucky and he's still shite. By mid-way through the second half, the two that went with him were asking if all Blades were like this and that they just couldn't put up with that every week. There's two less for the next game!

Tough shit. Why should Blades who've been attending for donkeys' years adapt themselves to fit in with what a bunch of students who only came along because it was cheap tickets expect?

 

[boo radley]

The ground has changed over the years. the players have changed. so why carnt the attitude of the fans? maybe we should go back to the days of the flat caps and blokes rolling up newspaers to piss through so they didnt have to go to the toilets. I dont suppose any of those who booed cresswell last night will actually identify themselves. or the ones who muttered to their mates or shout abuse he's F...... rubish would dare to face the guy and say it. 'I'VE PAID MI MONEY I CAN SAY WHAT I LIKE' Great attitude you may aswell be all wendies coz you benefit none at BDTBL, YOUR THINK OF YOURSELF(YES VERY SELFISH) COWARDS.

 

[matth]

If I could understand your post I'd reply to it.

 

[Bramley]

Didn't make it down for the game, but it was reported on the TV in the gym that Glen Little was booed before he came on the pitch. Walked off in disgust at that point.

The one thing that genuinely will drive me away from United is the constant negativity. It seems acutely bad in the last couple of seasons. As a lad in his mid twenties I just can't be arsed hanging around with a bunch of miserable bastards all the time - I'm not far off not renewing and packing it all in. Maybe because I live out of Sheffield I can get a bit of perspective on things now and again.

 

[matth]

I did make it to the game, and I didn't hear or see anything like Little getting booed.

If you're going to base all you want to slag off about other fans on conjecture and second hand information, by all means do so. Doesn't make it accurate though.

 

[gazza]

Agreed about the shirt, but still no reason whatsoever to boo your own player or team

 

[Northyorksblade]

Didn't make it down for the game, but it was reported on the TV in the gym that Glen Little was booed before he came on the pitch. Walked off in disgust at that point.

The one thing that genuinely will drive me away from United is the constant negativity. It seems acutely bad in the last couple of seasons. As a lad in his mid twenties I just can't be arsed hanging around with a bunch of miserable bastards all the time - I'm not far off not renewing and packing it all in. Maybe because I live out of Sheffield I can get a bit of perspective on things now and again.

I don't think he was booed because he was coming on, but because Cotterill, arguably our best player, was being taken off. But that's just my opinion.

And Brownie, that performance last night was shocking. I don't think you'd have been waxing so eloquently had you been there. (And this from a Happy Clapper. )

 

[Bramley]

I did make it to the game, and I didn't hear or see anything like Little getting booed.

If you're going to base all you want to slag off about other fans on conjecture and second hand information, by all means do so. Doesn't make it accurate though.

Because your argument is a shining bastion of rationality?

I've been to enough games to know that our support is quicker to turn than a worm on a hook. It's indefensible. We're a laughing stock. Booing players coming onto the pitch is a joke, Cresswell, Little and Quinn this year. Surely you can understand that there's no positive outcome from doing it?

 

[boo radley]

If I could understand your post I'd reply to it.

Thats my point

 

[matth]

My argument is that if Little was booed - and I certainly didn't hear it, and seemingly no one else did either, given that it's gone otherwise reported - it was a tiny minority of fans. There's always going to be a minority who do things that you wouldn't approve of. It happens.

Our support wasn't particularly vocal in its abuse yesterday. A few people booed Cresswell - but as others have pointed out (and been ignored as it doesn't fit in with this paradigm about negative fans) the booing was, in the main, drowned out by applause. Little didn't get booed, as I've mentioned. Quinn's booing was an isolated incident, and in any case seems to have had the desired effect as he's playing far better now.

The crowd were somewhat flat last night. I've not heard the Greasy Chip Butty song sang so half-heartedly for a long time, and most of the noise was reserved for the sarcastic cheering every time a pass was made - which, let's be honest, was more pantomime than vitriolic. But can you blame them? The performance was shocking. The crowd didn't turn. We're not a laughing stock - we're certainly not the only fans to boo the team when they don't play well.

There's no positive outcome to slagging off your fellow fans, but that doesn't stop people does it?

 

[boo radley]

Because your argument is a shining bastion of rationality?

I've been to enough games to know that our support is quicker to turn than a worm on a hook. It's indefensible. We're a laughing stock. Booing players coming onto the pitch is a joke, Cresswell, Little and Quinn this year. Surely you can understand that there's no positive outcome from doing it?

Well said

questions to you matth - have you booed your players? have you abused them?

 

[matth]

Answers - yes, I've booed the team as a whole off the pitch after a poor performance. More than once.

Abused - define abuse? I've shouted 'that was shit!' to players before. Is that abuse or an honest appraisal? Depends on your point of view, I guess.

 

[Bramley]

My argument is that if Little was booed - and I certainly didn't hear it, and seemingly no one else did either, given that it's gone otherwise reported - it was a tiny minority of fans. There's always going to be a minority who do things that you wouldn't approve of. It happens.

Our support wasn't particularly vocal in its abuse yesterday. A few people booed Cresswell - but as others have pointed out (and been ignored as it doesn't fit in with this paradigm about negative fans) the booing was, in the main, drowned out by applause. Little didn't get booed, as I've mentioned. Quinn's booing was an isolated incident, and in any case seems to have had the desired effect as he's playing far better now.

The crowd were somewhat flat last night. I've not heard the Greasy Chip Butty song sang so half-heartedly for a long time, and most of the noise was reserved for the sarcastic cheering every time a pass was made - which, let's be honest, was more pantomime than vitriolic. But can you blame them? The performance was shocking. The crowd didn't turn. We're not a laughing stock - we're certainly not the only fans to boo the team when they don't play well.

There's no positive outcome to slagging off your fellow fans, but that doesn't stop people does it?

Disagree. Slagging off fellow fans on a board like this has little impact. Booing and abusing our players damages their confidence and their performance. It won't improve things. So why do it?

My argument is there's no rationality to the criticism, one misplaced pass and its "**** off Montgomery", one (ok three) conceded goal and we're booing Bunn, one defeat after a run of victories and people are giving Blackwell the dog's abuse on here. Where's the perspective? We're not going to get everything our own way, its not always going to go right. There's two teams in every game. Sometimes the players will perform badly and need our support. Why can't we just get behind them?

My problem is you sit at the Lane and there's people around you who are complaining before the games started, complaining about a signing before he's kicked a ball, complaining about something they've read in a paper or on here. I don't want to hear it. Put forward a credible argument, give me some alternative signings, give me some fucking evidence for christ sake. IF NOT STOP RUINING ME ENJOYING THE GAME AND SUPPORTING MY TEAM.

(rant over)

COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZAAAAAAAAAAARDS!

 

[judge]

Answers - yes, I've booed the team as a whole off the pitch after a poor performance. More than once.

Abused - define abuse? I've shouted 'that was shit!' to players before. Is that abuse or an honest appraisal? Depends on your point of view, I guess.

were they on the pitch or warming up ? or even getting out of the car in the south stand car park ?:thumbdown:

 

[Bramley]

were they on the pitch or warming up ? or even getting out of the car in the south stand car park ?:thumbdown:

Tickled me did that.

 

[dingledog]

Answers - yes, I've booed the team as a whole off the pitch after a poor performance. More than once.

Abused - define abuse? I've shouted 'that was shit!' to players before. Is that abuse or an honest appraisal? Depends on your point of view, I guess.

Its all about opinions, I have also booed them off collectively having felt I have wasted my hard earned cash on a bunch of losers. I have also shouted out what an awful pass etc.

However I believe this isn't abuse its a release of pent up frustration. The minority who booed a player before he had even kicked a ball, well what can I add to whats already been said.

 

[noire]

I hate the break the news to many of you who seem to take as much relish from slagging our support, as those who moan all the time take from slagging off the team, but we aren't anything out of ordinary when it comes to fickleness, grumpyness and mardyness in the stands. Far from it in fact.