Billy for our next manager...

[GrayBlade]

Just a conversatwe were having after the match yesterday and hopefully not for a good few years yet of course, but when the inevitable happends and Wilder leaves us for Barcelona, I wonder if Sharp could fit fairly seamlessly into the role?

He knows the club inside out, represents it well on and off the pitch and he loves the coaching side. I think he’d be worth a shout, maybe with somebody experienced by his side like Wilder has with Knill. Thoughts?

 

[Grappler]

Just a conversatwe were having after the match yesterday and hopefully not for a good few years yet of course, but when the inevitable happends and Wilder leaves us for Barcelona, I wonder if Sharp could fit fairly seamlessly into the role?

He knows the club inside out, represents it well on and off the pitch and he loves the coaching side. I think he’d be worth a shout, maybe with somebody experienced by his side like Wilder has with Knill. Thoughts?

Fantastic bloke, loves coaching, don't know about man management, but he does get the lads together for a good arms-round pep talk before kick off

 

[DronnieBlade]

In 3,2,1

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Absolutely not. There is no evidence that he has any skills as a manager.

 

[Sheffsteel]

He has many of the required tools but whether he can use those tools is a totally different issue. He could be hopeless as a manager.
Agree it’s a nice idea though.

 

[stringer]

Bladey.

 

[LenTednTony]

Why does CW and AK have to leave? Look how long Fergie was at Manure. Look how long Wenger was at Arsenal. Why can’t CW and AK buck the trend and be at beautiful downtown Bramall Lane for years and years, whilst teaching and training his immediate replacement over a long time? All of this while making SUFC the most successful team in the UK! Dare to Dream.

 

[Razor_Blade]

Just a conversatwe were having after the match yesterday and hopefully not for a good few years yet of course, but when the inevitable happends and Wilder leaves us for Barcelona, I wonder if Sharp could fit fairly seamlessly into the role?

He knows the club inside out, represents it well on and off the pitch and he loves the coaching side. I think he’d be worth a shout, maybe with somebody experienced by his side like Wilder has with Knill. Thoughts?

Once he has done his apprenticeship like CW had to why not, until then NO.

Don't discount the value of working your way up and dealing adversity CW has had to endure, and we are reaping the rewards of his and AK's collective experience. You cant take shortcuts.

 

[GrayBlade]

Why does CW and AK have to leave? Look how long Fergie was at Manure. Look how long Wenger was at Arsenal. Why can’t CW and AK buck the trend and be at beautiful downtown Bramall Lane for years and years, whilst teaching and training his immediate replacement over a long time? All of this while making SUFC the most successful team in the UK! Dare to Dream.

I did say to Barcelona

 

[Carlton Blade]

I think I'd rather have a manager who's proved himself at multiple levels, had success etc. Like CW. Him being a Blade is a nice bonus. Him having actual success in every league, being through 1000s of scenarios involving 100s of players and having enough experience to have real tactical plans is so much more important.

 

[GrayBlade]

Once he has done his apprenticeship like CW had to why not, until then NO.

Don't discount the value of working your way up and dealing adversity CW has had to endure, and we are reaping the rewards of his and AK's collective experience. You cant take shortcuts.

You make a good point although plenty of managers do hit the ground running in their first job at higher levels, and many start at the bottom and stay at or near the bottom.

As I said, we’re hopefully looking a few years ahead, Sharp could by then be on Wilder’s coaching team and learning the ropes from the great man. Basically, I’m making the assumption that we’re still having success under Wilder (hence the Barcelona quip), and so minimal disruption would be preferable, therefore promotion from within the club could be the answer if we’d got the right man.

 

[Addison]

Billy and Duffy need to be taking their coaching badges probably along with the likes of Jake Wright. We need to build a coaching legacy at the Lane of former players who understand the Clubs DNA. Will any of them be capable of stepping up. Who knows until we try it.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Wasn't Mickey Adams a Blade? And although allegiances can change, weren't we all told that Neil Warnock was also a Blade?

The reason for Wilder's success is that he's learnt, paid his dues, made his way through the lower leagues and brought all this experience with him. The beneficiary has been SUFC, and in less than three seasons in charge, we now sit on top of the Championship. I'm not one for considering that the season is done and dusted, and neither do I imagine that Wilder will fall for this momentary high. Ask again around the end of February and it might be possible to tell whether we have a chance of promotion.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Why does CW and AK have to leave? Look how long Fergie was at Manure. Look how long Wenger was at Arsenal. Why can’t CW and AK buck the trend and be at beautiful downtown Bramall Lane for years and years, whilst teaching and training his immediate replacement over a long time? All of this while making SUFC the most successful team in the UK! Dare to Dream.

Because if we lost a couple we would be in the car park. Sure he won the champions league last year but he’s absolutely clueless with his subs.

 

[Revolution]

Never appoint a manager who hasn't done the job before. Let someone else give them their start.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Why does CW and AK have to leave? Look how long Fergie was at Manure. Look how long Wenger was at Arsenal. Why can’t CW and AK buck the trend and be at beautiful downtown Bramall Lane for years and years, whilst teaching and training his immediate replacement over a long time? All of this while making SUFC the most successful team in the UK! Dare to Dream.

No chance of him going to the Prem or whatever, his name ends in an r not an o, i or e. Long term the England job represents our only danger.

 

[benn5712]

Once he has done his apprenticeship like CW had to why not, until then NO.

Don't discount the value of working your way up and dealing adversity CW has had to endure, and we are reaping the rewards of his and AK's collective experience. You cant take shortcuts.

I agree.

But in the future, maybe.

 

[Harry's Game]

No.

I want Megson.

 

[Grappler]

The only problem is we might become "Billy Sharp's Sheffield United" (copyright: Frank Lampard Fat Fat Productions)

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

If Billy can make it into management I would think this was a highly likely scenario some time in the future.

 

[GrayBlade]

Wasn't Mickey Adams a Blade? And although allegiances can change, weren't we all told that Neil Warnock was also a Blade?

The reason for Wilder's success is that he's learnt, paid his dues, made his way through the lower leagues and brought all this experience with him. The beneficiary has been SUFC, and in less than three seasons in charge, we now sit on top of the Championship. I'm not one for considering that the season is done and dusted, and neither do I imagine that Wilder will fall for this momentary high. Ask again around the end of February and it might be possible to tell whether we have a chance of promotion.

My perusals are nothing to do with Billy being a Blade mate, just whether we see him as potential managerial material for United. The likes of Warnock and Adams hadn’t been anywhere near United in decades while Billy has served here under serval mangers in the last decade. As for Adams, he's surely an example of somebody paying his dues at other clubs but turning out to be a lousy manager with us. Gary Speed who he replaced had no managerial experience but was a better manager (IMO).

I was thinking along the lines of proper succession planning the way Liverpool did with their players and staff for 20 years after Shankly right up to the mid 90’s, not just chucking Billy in at the deep end. He’d learn on the job from Wilder IF of course he wanted to and the club thought he’d got what it takes.

 

[itsinyerblood]

My perusals are nothing to do with Billy being a Blade mate, just whether we see him as potential managerial material for United. The likes of Warnock and Adams hadn’t been anywhere near United in decades while Billy has served here under serval mangers in the last decade. As for Adams, he's surely an example of somebody paying his dues at other clubs but turning out to be a lousy manager with us. Gary Speed who he replaced had no managerial experience but was a better manager (IMO).

I was thinking along the lines of proper succession planning the way Liverpool did with their players and staff for 20 years after Shankly right up to the mid 90’s, not just chucking Billy in at the deep end. He’d learn on the job from Wilder IF of course he wanted to and the club thought he’d got what it takes.

The key, or at least part of it, is whether this would appeal to him. Of course I understand that what has happened at other clubs may make sense, but I think Liverpool is a special case, or at least it was. They appear to have abandoned this in favour of recruiting from further afield. But, all romance put to one side, if this was doable then why not, but only if everything was in place that would make sense of such a move.

 

[Razor_Blade]

My perusals are nothing to do with Billy being a Blade mate, just whether we see him as potential managerial material for United. The likes of Warnock and Adams hadn’t been anywhere near United in decades while Billy has served here under serval mangers in the last decade. As for Adams, he's surely an example of somebody paying his dues at other clubs but turning out to be a lousy manager with us. Gary Speed who he replaced had no managerial experience but was a better manager (IMO).

I was thinking along the lines of proper succession planning the way Liverpool did with their players and staff for 20 years after Shankly right up to the mid 90’s, not just chucking Billy in at the deep end. He’d learn on the job from Wilder IF of course he wanted to and the club thought he’d got what it takes.

So you mean like Chris Morgan, great club servant , worked under successful managers had coaching badges and an rapid apprenticeship what could go wrong?..... oh yeah.

sorry too big a job for a first go at it IMO, people saying well sometimes it works, well look at Lampard et all, big budgets and and spends makes it slightly easier don't you think? doubt we will ever have that.

 

[Tom Bott]

Why does CW and AK have to leave?

Someone allegedly ITK on here has said they are leaving in January if the board does not give them £50 million to spend.

 

[SwissBlade]

Just a conversatwe were having after the match yesterday and hopefully not for a good few years yet of course, but when the inevitable happends and Wilder leaves us for Barcelona, I wonder if Sharp could fit fairly seamlessly into the role?

He knows the club inside out, represents it well on and off the pitch and he loves the coaching side. I think he’d be worth a shout, maybe with somebody experienced by his side like Wilder has with Knill. Thoughts?

No Chance, he's going to be too busy having to shag the the WAGS of all the Blades fans out there

 

[BridBladesman]

Absolutely not. There is no evidence that he has any skills as a manager.

Lumplard isn’t doing a bad job, so why not

 

[GrayBlade]

So you mean like Chris Morgan, great club servant , worked under successful managers had coaching badges and an rapid apprenticeship what could go wrong?..... oh yeah.

sorry too big a job for a first go at it IMO, people saying well sometimes it works, well look at Lampard et all, big budgets and and spends makes it slightly easier don't you think? doubt we will ever have that.

You mention Morgan but has he really been given a proper chance anywhere yet? Look at Adkins. From Physio to world beater at Scunny and the Saints to utter crap once he’d gained experience and arrived at United, and then there’s Micky Adams. All the experience in the world and yet one of our worst ever. Clough has as much much experience at running clubs from top to bottom as Chris but he also failed miserably.

Because Wilder has been so good for us taking the rout he has doesn’t mean his eventual replacement will be. For every Lampard who’s as you say is getting fairly well backed there are/ have been managers around who weren’t and yet hit the ground running. Whether or not that’s our Billy time will tell, but I personally wouldn’t write the idea off because the facts are neither you, me or anybody else knows for sure how it would pan out whoever our next manager is. Billy could become our own Kenny Dalgliesh if he got the job or he might fail. Either way he could do no worse for us than the experienced managers I’ve mentioned above. That’s football, sometimes managers fit, sometimes they don’t.

 

[alcoblade]

Lumplard isn’t doing a bad job, so why not

Lampard is one in a line of thousands of managers who go through good spells, bad spells and eventually achieve next to nothing and are forgotten about.

Only when you’ve “done it” a number of times can you be sure it’s about a little more than luck, or huge backing.

There are only a tiny handful of managers that I rate. Thankfully Wilder is one of them.

 

[BridBladesman]

Lampard is one in a line of thousands of managers who go through good spells, bad spells and eventually achieve next to nothing and are forgotten about.

Only when you’ve “done it” a number of times can you be sure it’s about a little more than luck, or huge backing.

There are only a tiny handful of managers that I rate. Thankfully Wilder is one of them.

I was just jesting mate, but I get your point

 

[moDtheGod]

Never appoint a manager who hasn't done the job before. Let someone else give them their start.

I would agree with that most of the time, but if CW stayed at the club for a very long time and Sharp progressed to the coaching staff and worked under him for a long time, I'd then be a lot more comfortable with United being his first managerial gig.