Championship clubs briefed on potential 21-point penalty for financial breaches

[Silent Blade]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45601142

 

[bromtom]

Good. Hope they do it, and not just because Wednesday are in the shit, it'd just be nice to see a bit of justice dealt.

Only when someone like Villa nearly or do get relegated will teams start paying attention to the rules.

They should also go hard on simulation and time wasting (when the ball is out of play, game management is unavoidable but taking 5 years to retrieve the ball and cleaning your boots, conveniently getting cramp can fuck off).

 

[I should coco]

Good. Hope they do it, and not just because Wednesday are in the shit, it'd just be nice to see a bit of justice dealt.

Only when someone like Villa nearly or do get relegated will teams start paying attention to the rules.

STOP PRESS!!!!

AMAZING BREAKING NEWS STORY!!!!!

They won't do it to Villa.

Or Boro, Brum, Pigs, DirtyLeeds etc etc etc. The precedent has already been set that it would be 'unfair on the fans'.

Should Rovrum, Brentford, Wigan or PNE step out of line however, you can expect the full might of the the League (er, sorry 'EFL') come down like a hammer! Subject to legal appeals of course...

Talk tough and do bugger all. I'd stick it in a Latin translator and put it on the bottom of the Football League crest if they hadn't already lost all credibility by changing their name to the wonderful racy and US themed 'EFL'.

Bearing in mind Tevez, any Blade who thinks that 'responsible governance' is our friend, needs his bumps feeling.

 

[KoppedOff]

I think the main reason Birmingham are in more bother than the rest of the cheats, is that they actually went one further and broke the rules of the actual embargo? They effectively commited a another crime while out on bail, for the want of another comparison (Im not remotely clued up on legal matters outside Inspector Morse or The Bill, so I might be wrong). The Pigs, QPR etc are dodgy as anything, but even they didnt actually breach their embargos (sounds painful).

The EFL HAVE to hand out a hefty punishment to the Brummies. Otherwise they undermine themselves and the entire FFP premise and make it even more pointless than it already is.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I think the main reason Birmingham are in more bother than the rest of the cheats, is that they actually went one further and broke the rules of the actual embargo? They effectively commited a another crime while out on bail, for the want of another comparison (Im not remotely clued up on legal matters outside Inspector Morse or The Bill, so I might be wrong). The Pigs, QPR etc are dodgy as anything, but even they didnt actually breach their embargos (sounds painful).

The EFL HAVE to hand out a hefty punishment to the Brummies. Otherwise they undermine themselves and the entire FFP premise and make it even more pointless than it already is.

No accounts filed for the company that uses the "trading" name D Taxis or Elev 8 Energy Drinks Ltd. Quelle surprise.....

 

[LJBlade]

I think the main reason Birmingham are in more bother than the rest of the cheats, is that they actually went one further and broke the rules of the actual embargo? They effectively commited a another crime while out on bail, for the want of another comparison (Im not remotely clued up on legal matters outside Inspector Morse or The Bill, so I might be wrong). The Pigs, QPR etc are dodgy as anything, but even they didnt actually breach their embargos (sounds painful).

The EFL HAVE to hand out a hefty punishment to the Brummies. Otherwise they undermine themselves and the entire FFP premise and make it even more pointless than it already is.

I’ve heard that said before but how did they break the rules of the embargo? How were they able to sign someone and have it ratified by the League if they were still under the embargo?

 

[spongebobblade]

“While the signing of Kristian Pedersen is being presented in reports as an “aggravating factor”, the Blues have pointed out that they showed restraint in the January transfer window this year”......
FFS that’s like admitting shoplifting but saying they didn’t nick out the time before so should be let off.
The EFL are going to trip themselves up in time because they haven’t the balls to grab it by the scruff of the neck and see it through.
All talk and no action

 

[KoppedOff]

I’ve heard that said before but how did they break the rules of the embargo? How were they able to sign someone and have it ratified by the League if they were still under the embargo?

I’m not sure; just going on what I’ve read. Does add up why Birmingham seem to be the ones in the deepest shit though. I guess if you have a situation with enough money sloshing around, enough greedy bastards and an administrative set up nobody outside the inner workings of football know, anything is possible.

 

[Chicken with no head]

If it’s done properly,
I’ll believe it when I see it

 

[KoppedOff]

No accounts filed for the company that uses the "trading" name D Taxis or Elev 8 Energy Drinks Ltd. Quelle surprise.....

I’m not a finance/accounts guy at all Sean, but it doesnt take Gordon Gekko to realise somethings very “fishy” (pun intended) down at S6. As somebody who seems to know his onions with this stuff, how dodgy are we talking?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Never happen in a million years.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Believe it when I see it

 

[Roygbiv]

I think the main reason Birmingham are in more bother than the rest of the cheats, is that they actually went one further and broke the rules of the actual embargo? They effectively commited a another crime while out on bail, for the want of another comparison (Im not remotely clued up on legal matters outside Inspector Morse or The Bill, so I might be wrong). The Pigs, QPR etc are dodgy as anything, but even they didnt actually breach their embargos (sounds painful).

The EFL HAVE to hand out a hefty punishment to the Brummies. Otherwise they undermine themselves and the entire FFP premise and make it even more pointless than it already is.

It does seem that Birminghams case is different to everyone else as they somehow bought a player under an embargo. If they get away with I'm not sure what the rules are

 

[Punk Blade]

If the league follow through with this all we have to do is stick around another year or two and we’ll go up as champions by default...

 

[mattbianco1]

They don't dare issue 12pts, so they won't issue 21

 

[norfolkblade]

I’m not a finance/accounts guy at all Sean, but it doesnt take Gordon Gekko to realise somethings very “fishy” (pun intended) down at S6. As somebody who seems to know his onions with this stuff, how dodgy are we talking?

In my opinion it's got to be flirting on the lines of fraud but who knows

 

[3-GBlade]

I’ve heard that said before but how did they break the rules of the embargo? How were they able to sign someone and have it ratified by the League if they were still under the embargo?

The League have to register the player, or it can be regarded as (an illegal) restraint on trade/preventing him "earning a living"

 

[super_pig]

waffle

 

[LJBlade]

The League have to register the player, or it can be regarded as (an illegal) restraint on trade/preventing him "earning a living"

Did not know that. Would the player have not been earning a living at the club he was being transferred from?

Also, wasn’t it the case that towards the start of the transfer window Birmingham lined some transfers up (5 I think was the number) but the League wouldn’t allow them?

 

[Birdwell Blade]

In my opinion it's got to be flirting on the lines of fraud but who knows

I’ve heard this stuff about the pigs mentioned a few times now. Let me get this straight...

1. There’s a company/business trading as Elev8 which we believe is owned by Chansiri?

2. Theres another named D Taxis which we believe is owned by him too?

3. There’s some balloon company as well?

From what I’ve seen, these are facts, not just rumours?

These ‘companies’ are putting money into the club, but it seems the money comes out of Chansiri’s pocket, through the company, into SWFC to hep them pay/sign players?

The rules are that an owner can only put in x amount over a period of time and the club has to make its own money/manage its losses?

So it seems the pigs are cheating?

Why is nothing being done about it? Have I missed something?

 

[bromtom]

I’ve heard this stuff about the pigs mentioned a few times now. Let me get this straight...

1. There’s a company/business trading as Elev8 which we believe is owned by Chansiri?

2. Theres another named D Taxis which we believe is owned by him too?

3. There’s some balloon company as well?

From what I’ve seen, these are facts, not just rumours?

These ‘companies’ are putting money into the club, but it seems the money comes out of Chansiri’s pocket, through the company, into SWFC to hep them pay/sign players?

The rules are that an owner can only put in x amount over a period of time and the club has to make its own money/manage its losses?

So it seems the pigs are cheating?

Why is nothing being done about it? Have I missed something?

Isn't there a rule about sponsorship being reasonable too? So I couldn't just win the lottery and buy an ad on the big screen and pay United £45million for it.

Surely a balloon company, an energy drink company who's product, if available, would be behind at least 12 other energy drinks that I can think of, and a taxi firm that doesn't have any taxis shouldn't be able to put in millions of pounds. It's not reasonable for the return they're getting.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I’ve heard this stuff about the pigs mentioned a few times now. Let me get this straight...

1. There’s a company/business trading as Elev8 which we believe is owned by Chansiri?

2. Theres another named D Taxis which we believe is owned by him too?

3. There’s some balloon company as well?

From what I’ve seen, these are facts, not just rumours?

These ‘companies’ are putting money into the club, but it seems the money comes out of Chansiri’s pocket, through the company, into SWFC to hep them pay/sign players?

The rules are that an owner can only put in x amount over a period of time and the club has to make its own money/manage its losses?

So it seems the pigs are cheating?

Why is nothing being done about it? Have I missed something?

D Performance Ltd classified as a "taxi operation" has the "trading" name D taxis.

One £1 share issued to DC.

Owned 100% by Chansiri, who is the sole director and the Person with significant control.

First accounts up to 31July 2018. Not yet filed. Due to be filed by 10 April 2019.

Only obtained a Sheffield City Council private hire operators licence on 1st February this year so couldn't trade legally before that date.




Elev8 Energy Drinks Ltd

Same situation re filing.

Sole director, DC.

Person/Company with significant control Pan 1 Ltd.

10000 shares of 1p issued originally four shareholders the majority (9000) owned by Pan 1 Ltd, a Hong Kong company, which now owns 1O0% after transfer of shares.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

they haven’t the balls to grab it by the scruff of the neck

 

[Harrisblade]

The League have to register the player, or it can be regarded as (an illegal) restraint on trade/preventing him "earning a living"

Not really.
He can be registered by another league with different rules.
As long as it's not a league Birmingham City play in.

 

[oldblade]

STOP PRESS!!!!

AMAZING BREAKING NEWS STORY!!!!!

They won't do it to Villa.

Or Boro, Brum, Pigs, DirtyLeeds etc etc etc. The precedent has already been set that it would be 'unfair on the fans'.

Should Rovrum, Brentford, Wigan or PNE step out of line however, you can expect the full might of the the League (er, sorry 'EFL') come down like a hammer! Subject to legal appeals of course...

Talk tough and do bugger all. I'd stick it in a Latin translator and put it on the bottom of the Football League crest if they hadn't already lost all credibility by changing their name to the wonderful racy and US themed 'EFL'.

Bearing in mind Tevez, any Blade who thinks that 'responsible governance' is our friend, needs his bumps feeling.

It wasn't the EFL that let us down over Tevez, it was the premier league.

 

[BladeFisher]

STOP PRESS!!!!

AMAZING BREAKING NEWS STORY!!!!!

They won't do it to Villa.

Or Boro, Brum, Pigs, DirtyLeeds etc etc etc. The precedent has already been set that it would be 'unfair on the fans'.

Should Rovrum, Brentford, Wigan, PNE or the Blades step out of line however, you can expect the full might of the the League (er, sorry 'EFL') come down like a hammer! Subject to legal appeals of course...

Talk tough and do bugger all. I'd stick it in a Latin translator and put it on the bottom of the Football League crest if they hadn't already lost all credibility by changing their name to the wonderful racy and US themed 'EFL'.

Bearing in mind Tevez, any Blade who thinks that 'responsible governance' is our friend, needs his bumps feeling.

There fixed it for you.

 

[I should coco]

It wasn't the EFL that let us down over Tevez, it was the premier league.

I know that but they are all cut from the same cloth.

The Premier League are slicker and professional and took a commercial view that the CheatinAmmers are too valuable to lose.

The EFL are equally toothless but generally more inept with a piss poor chairman.

Neither are 'our friends'.

That better?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I’m not a finance/accounts guy at all Sean, but it doesnt take Gordon Gekko to realise somethings very “fishy” (pun intended) down at S6. As somebody who seems to know his onions with this stuff, how dodgy are we talking?

Why do i have this nagging feeling they will go up this year, thus avoiding answering any awkward questions on their finances.

 

[Blade56]

They won't do it to Villa.

Probably not but some fecker will try and find out if we've had any free bog rolls and hit us with a 21 pointer

 

[KoppedOff]

Why do i have this nagging feeling they will go up this year, thus avoiding answering any awkward questions on their finances.

Oh god- dont go there! To be fair, they’ve made a good start and they do still have some decent players. BUT; we’re still early in the season. Lets see how their ageing, injury prone squad is holding together come November/December. They wont be close to going down, but cant see them pushing for top 6, unless they go absolutely shit or bust mental in January- which might be their only viable option and knowing them spozzy bastards will probably prove you right!