I fear we will lose our best manager since Harris

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Silent Blade said:
Due to many fans and two players (at least) not respecting the manager's authority to pick the team.
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Hilarity no. 1 - Best manager since Harris? He's not done a 10th of what Basset did.
Hilarity no. 2 - Fans stop being mean. How dare you be mean. You can worship when things are going well but you have to keep quiet when they aren't
Hilarity no. 3 - I'm leaving and taking my ball home because a couple of WAGS posted some comments on Twitter. boohoo
 



mattbianco1 said:
Surely as fans we are entitled to question the decisions of the manager. Especially when they clearly aren't working.
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Don’t disagree, but in turn presumably you’ll recognise that any criticism (a) has to be proportionate given we’re two games in, and (b) has to bear in mind Wilder’s outstanding performance in the role thus far?
 
If rumours are true he’s turned several half decent jobs down near the end of the last season, Sunderland, Leeds and wba were mentioned on here in other threads..

As for him leaving, it can’t be easy to watch other less talented managers spending and getting the necessary players into thier clubs while he bumbles around chasing shadows we will never sign ( coady last year, waghorn now) another window wasted chasing one player on the whole with no financial clout being provided from upstairs..

To those wanting him out, and we all know who they are..

Who do you think is better than wilder?

The club needs to be sorted, and the manager needs to be backed, otherwise it’s a mid table season if we’re lucky..
 
Rodley said:
Don’t disagree, but in turn presumably you’ll recognise that any criticism (a) has to be proportionate given we’re two games in, and (b) has to bear in mind Wilder’s outstanding performance in the role thus far?
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Of course, no disputing that, however, it doesn't matter if we are in the 2nd or 40th game in a season, to not bring on the best finisher in the squad at 3-0 down is just plain stupidity.

I would've also brought on Duffy or Woodburn after 30mins last night.
 
Ricky said:
Loyalty and criticism can go together.

I won't even want him sacked if we're relegated, and anyone on here can hold me to that.
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Sorry, I’ll rephrase that.

He got us to 10th last season and we’re two games in, surely we owe him some support and backing?
 
Ricky said:
Loyalty and criticism can go together.

I won't even want him sacked if we're relegated, and anyone on here can hold me to that.
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It would depend on how it happened, but I'm the same.
 
mattbianco1 said:
Of course, no disputing that, however, it doesn't matter if we are in the 2nd or 40th game in a season, to not bring on the best finisher in the squad at 3-0 down is just plain stupidity.

I would've also brought on Duffy or Woodburn after 30mins last night.
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I don’t disagree Duffy and Woodburn need to feature more. Let’s see what the line up is at QPR.
 



Rodley said:
I knew you really were cabal! ;)

I can’t agree, the cars barely off the forecourt in Sheffield, plenty of miles to go before we see a cliff.
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must be going slow then .. been in first gear since january
actually come to think of it.. yeah you’re right then :D
 
Is there that many asking for Wilder to be sacked, there's plenty being critical which is fair enough with 8 wins, 8 draws and 13 defeats since Coutts injury, that's around 51 points over a season ie near relegation form. I think there's far too many clappers sticking their heads in the sand, having hissy fits every time fans are airing justified criticism.

CW wants to look at himself and the gung-ho attitude, it was great tactics in the title season and last season up to losing Coutts but it's patently not working now, he needs to wise up a bit.
 
Tezza1889 said:
If rumours are true he’s turned several half decent jobs down near the end of the last season, Sunderland, Leeds and wba were mentioned on here in other threads..

As for him leaving, it can’t be easy to watch other less talented managers spending and getting the necessary players into thier clubs while he bumbles around chasing shadows we will never sign ( coady last year, waghorn now) another window wasted chasing one player on the whole with no financial clout being provided from upstairs..

To those wanting him out, and we all know who they are..

Who do you think is better than wilder?

The club needs to be sorted, and the manager needs to be backed, otherwise it’s a mid table season if we’re lucky..
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Warnock has a better record of getting teams to PL and he’ll be getting sack when Cardiff start poorly?
 
robbiez666 said:
You are joking? A manager with no money signing players from Doncaster reserves and non-league football and keeping us up in the top flight?

Compared to a man who got us promoted with one of the two biggest budgets in the league?

Really?
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Agree. Bassett era was the best time for me..loved those days. He can shove his hoofball accusation up his fudger.
 
essexblade73 said:
Agree. Bassett era was the best time for me..loved those days. He can shove his hoofball accusation up his fudger.
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Let's be honest, some part weren't great (Vinny Jones being one of them) but he signed a load of players for not much and got them playing together as a team. We were more direct than anything else, but it worked.
 
Ricky said:
If I was Wilder, I'd just resign now.

Can't have fans questioning shocking team selections can we.
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Shocking is overstating things a bit IMHO.

We had the same midfield trio as the side that beat Middlesbrough towards the end of last season. The only differences in yesterday's side were Egan instead of Wright, Henderson instead of Moore and McGoldrick instead of Brooks.
 
As usual, the debate gets polarised between those who are far too negative and critical (predicting we'd be relegated immediately after Coutts was injured, for example) and those for whom any criticism at all is treason or tantamount to being a pig.
 
Some of the decisions so far this season have been surprising.
Wilder doesn't take any responsibilty for his poor decisions and has blamed the players on occasion.
However does anybody remember 2 years ago? That terrible start to the season but as it turned out we played the teams who finished 2nd, 6th, 7th and 9th that year in our first 4 games before we got it together. Well we've just played (poorly granted) at 2 teams likely to finish in the top 6 this year, give Wilder a chance to sort it before we deride him for screwing up. Give him time to prove he's a decent manager or can't take the heat, then we can heap praise or slag him off but 0 points from games where we expected 1 (I know we hoped for 6) is hardly a disaster.
 
Silent Blade said:
Due to many fans and two players (at least) not respecting the manager's authority to pick the team.
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It's an absolute privilege to be a Blade at the moment. Though the faith is currently being tested a bit.

I get that there are plenty of gobshites with a soapbox and megaphone.

But from where I was standing last night the vast majority of the fans supported the team. Or at least were still having a good sing. Even after 3-0. "Doo-doo-dooo football in a libry" got a good run.

And in his interview Wilder did say he was looking forward to the challenge of sorting it all out.

Here's hoping he manages.
 
I seem to be sitting on the fence a lot recently but everyone is right.
We can disagree with Wilder, I think he was completely wrong in his team collection.
On the other hand some people have gone far far top over the top.

Do you know who will be hurting the most this week after two bad performances!?
ME.... But Wilder is a close second.
 
8lade said:
Some of the decisions so far this season have been surprising.
Wilder doesn't take any responsibilty for his poor decisions and has blamed the players on occasion.
However does anybody remember 2 years ago? That terrible start to the season but as it turned out we played the teams who finished 2nd, 6th, 7th and 9th that year in our first 4 games before we got it together. Well we've just played (poorly granted) at 2 teams likely to finish in the top 6 this year, give Wilder a chance to sort it before we deride him for screwing up. Give him time to prove he's a decent manager or can't take the heat, then we can heap praise or slag him off but 0 points from games where we expected 1 (I know we hoped for 6) is hardly a disaster.
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I shall say this only once, slowly, so it can be understood. It is not the result (s) it is the performance and selection that is in issue.
 
Furphy, Porterfield, Bassett and Warnock all well ahead of Wilder in the 'Best Since Harris' stakes.
If he carries on with the same level of performance and points return for the last 30 odd games he'll have more to worry about from the boardroom than anyone else as he'll be sacked.
 



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