England players that we’ve respected at the Lane

[Pinchy]

I remember early sixties when United played Chelsea. Hodgy got crocked and in those days the ref wouldn't stop play unless the ball was booted out, which rarely happened then. The exception in this game was Peter Bonetti, and he got a rousing round of applause for it, not only that game but every season after until we got relegated in 1968.

He didn't get much applause in our house in the Summer of 1970.

 

[wizadry]

I don't doubt that. He was, however, overrated by the press and media sycophants purely because he played for their darlings. I'm astonished to hear anyone describe him as the best player they've seen at the Lane. It may be an age thing. I've not done the exercise and don't intend to but I doubt he'd be in my top hundred, if he appeared on the list at all. Another member of the Golden Generation.

I’m surprised you rate Scholes so lowly, I really had him down as your sort of player. Not even in your top 100 players to be seen at the lane? You’ve seen a lot of world class players at the lane then because for me that’s the bracket up from Scholes.

 

[Silent Blade]

I remember early sixties when United played Chelsea. Hodgy got crocked and in those days the ref wouldn't stop play unless the ball was booted out, which rarely happened then. The exception in this game was Peter Bonetti, and he got a rousing round of applause for it, not only that game but every season after until we got relegated in 1968.

Tommy Hughes, not Peter Bonetti (who was probably injured), played in goal for Chelsea in that 1968 match.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Bobby Moore when he came with Fulham. 77/78 season I think.

 

[Sean Thornton]

2-0 Derby game at BL 17 Nov. Ref gave Pigs a corner that never was. John Sheridan kicked it straight over the goal line. Respected the brawling alecart pig ever since.

 

[Silent Blade]

Bobby Moore when he came with Fulham. 77/78 season I think.

October 1976. He retired in May 1977 expecting to be Watford's manager.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

October 1976. He retired in May 1977 expecting to be Watford's manager.

Ah ... no cigar!!

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Not sure why Vinnie needs to be like that, he did a decent job for us even though he wasn't as popular wit the fans as he was at Leeds.

Because he's a classless, talentless cunt, who spent a career and then some masquerading as a hard man? I honestly wished he'd never played for us. If he doesn't like his time hear, i'm happy.

 

[Booker4]

Because he's a classless, talentless cunt, who spent a career and then some masquerading as a hard man? I honestly wished he'd never played for us. If he doesn't like his time hear, i'm happy.

I get what you're staying but in my view had he not signed we'd have not stayed up that first season. Watch back the goals we scored and see how many he creates with his throws alone. Yes he was a thug and he also started wearing a head band for no reason but he did a decent job in my view. Sorry if you din't agree mate!

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I get what you're staying but in my view had he not signed we'd have not stayed up that first season. Watch back the goals we scored and see how many he creates with his throws alone. Yes he was a thug and he also started wearing a head band for no reason but he did a decent job in my view. Sorry if you din't agree mate!

My response was a little strong. It wasn't aimed at you. I was never a fan of his generally.

 

[Pinchy]

I’m surprised you rate Scholes so lowly, I really had him down as your sort of player. Not even in your top 100 players to be seen at the lane? You’ve seen a lot of world class players at the lane then because for me that’s the bracket up from Scholes.

You may be right and as I say I’m unlikely to have the time or inclination to perform the exercise. One thing to bear in mind is I’ve been a regular for 55 years so seen a lot of great players. Not in League One or Division Four, I accept.

I’m not saying Scholes was rubbish at all and I’m pleased you don’t take the Little Englander stance that he was ‘world class’. I simply say he was overrated and wouldn’t be thought of so highly if he’d played for say Aston Villa or Everton.

He was also a cynical dirty fucker who pretended he simply couldn’t tackle properly. He would have fitted Revie’s Dirty Leeds well, alongside Giles and Brownbag Bremner who were also excellent footballers.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Because he's a classless, talentless cunt, who spent a career and then some masquerading as a hard man? I honestly wished he'd never played for us. If he doesn't like his time hear, i'm happy.

Billy Whitehurst tells a very good story about how hard Vinny was.

 

[BusheyBlade]

I didn't realise it was so limited. In any event, I don't regard playing for England [certainly since 1980] as a quality mark. The two players I've mentioned were world class; Scholes was nowhere near, in common with the rest of the Golden [Rain] Generation.

You might want to check the title of the thread on which you're commenting.

 

[Booker4]

My response was a little strong. It wasn't aimed at you. I was never a fan of his generally.

I never took it personally and I get he wasn't everyone's cup of tea and he never seemed to establish the bond with our fans that he did with Leeds. But, I still think we'd have gone down without him signing in 1990. We'll never know of course! Look back on the 1990 - 1991 season and count how many times a Jones throw leads directly to a goal. Games against Forest, Man U, QPR, Derby he created goals with his long throws alone.

However, he did get sent off on occasions and give two hand balls away for penalties although one was missed. You might think the throw ins is a feeble defence but that long throw contributed massively that season and he was the captain of the team. As a bloke though he'll always be Dirty Leeds for me!

 

[Guesty]

I don't doubt that. He was, however, overrated by the press and media sycophants purely because he played for their darlings. I'm astonished to hear anyone describe him as the best player they've seen at the Lane. It may be an age thing. I've not done the exercise and don't intend to but I doubt he'd be in my top hundred, if he appeared on the list at all. Another member of the Golden Generation.

He also gets better the longer he's retired.

 

[blade too long]

Alan Ball, always got lots of attention

 

[raimond]

It was 48 hours after the Old Trafford Semi v Newcastle, and we had a weakened team out with a few players who were still knackered and beat Boro without getting out of first gear, and Gazza was played off the park by Ian Hamilton. It was sad to see a great player on quite a steep decline.

The last couple of opposition players I’ve applauded off the park have been Cristian Eriksen and Ryan Sessegnon last season,

That night v Boro was (regular poster on here) Booker4 's 21st and he was heroically pissed. We still swear he won the game for us single handed by starting chants on the Kop whilst bright green. We won 1-0 and he ended the night by passing out whilst stood up having a piss, and doing it all over himself, laid on his back, like a garden sprinkler. A beautiful tribute to Gazza in a way.

 

[benn5712]

Shilton after Italy world cup 1990. Derby came ter t lane and he stopped everything. Second half, he approached kop goal and everyone stood and gave him rousing applause. He acknowledged us, Englands no1 a great moment in football just as it should be. Still kept us out until Glynn Hodges beat him wi' a mis-kick then fell over an advertising board.

 

[Blade for Sale]

You may be right and as I say I’m unlikely to have the time or inclination to perform the exercise. One thing to bear in mind is I’ve been a regular for 55 years so seen a lot of great players. Not in League One or Division Four, I accept.

I’m not saying Scholes was rubbish at all and I’m pleased you don’t take the Little Englander stance that he was ‘world class’. I simply say he was overrated and wouldn’t be thought of so highly if he’d played for say Aston Villa or Everton.

He was also a cynical dirty fucker who pretended he simply couldn’t tackle properly. He would have fitted Revie’s Dirty Leeds well, alongside Giles and Brownbag Bremner who were also excellent footballers.

It's all about opinions of course, but I'll just leave these here for balance.


Xavi Hernandez: Paul Scholes is a role model. For me – and I really mean this – he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.

Socrates (Brazil): Good enough to play for Brazil. I love to watch Scholes, to see him pass, the boy with the red hair and the red shirt.

Zinedine Zidane: My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation.

Marcello Lippi: Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. An all-round midfielder who possesses quality and character in abundance.

Laurent Blanc: I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player.

Sir Bobby Charlton: Many great players have worn the shirt of Manchester United. Players I worshipped, then lost with my youth in Munich. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite.

Roy Keane: No celebrity bullshit, no self-promotion – an amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being.

Sir Alex Ferguson: One of the greatest football brains Manchester United has ever had.

Edgar Davids: Everyone of us should emulate him. We can all learn from Paul Scholes.

Ryan Giggs: I’d go for Scholesy as the club’s greatest ever player. I’ve seen him do things that no other player can do. The way he can control the tempo of games, and his range of passing, are both incredible. We’ve seen over the years that players just haven’t been able to get near him. And you can’t forget his goals either.

Cesc Fabregas: For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate. One player does not make a team but there is no doubt that the presence of some players add extra motivation and confidence. Scholes is a player with character and is capable of transmitting that mental strength to his team-mates.

 

[I should coco]

It's all about opinions of course, but I'll just leave these here for balance.


Xavi Hernandez: Paul Scholes is a role model. For me – and I really mean this – he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.

Socrates (Brazil): Good enough to play for Brazil. I love to watch Scholes, to see him pass, the boy with the red hair and the red shirt.

Zinedine Zidane: My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation.

Marcello Lippi: Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. An all-round midfielder who possesses quality and character in abundance.

Laurent Blanc: I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player.

Sir Bobby Charlton: Many great players have worn the shirt of Manchester United. Players I worshipped, then lost with my youth in Munich. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite.

Roy Keane: No celebrity bullshit, no self-promotion – an amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being.

Sir Alex Ferguson: One of the greatest football brains Manchester United has ever had.

Edgar Davids: Everyone of us should emulate him. We can all learn from Paul Scholes.

Ryan Giggs: I’d go for Scholesy as the club’s greatest ever player. I’ve seen him do things that no other player can do. The way he can control the tempo of games, and his range of passing, are both incredible. We’ve seen over the years that players just haven’t been able to get near him. And you can’t forget his goals either.

Cesc Fabregas: For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate. One player does not make a team but there is no doubt that the presence of some players add extra motivation and confidence. Scholes is a player with character and is capable of transmitting that mental strength to his team-mates.

They are all foreign hoofers and know-nowts.

We are very lucky to be blessed by the presence of His Pinchy -ness and should stop being so ungrateful. His views are the correct ones and the sooner we accept this the better.

 

[blade too long]

I remember Peter Reid coming and tore us apart in a 1-5 defeat, was as good as anything Ive ever seen, was just a scintilating inividual display, Was a much under rated player

 

[BushBlade]

It's all about opinions of course, but I'll just leave these here for balance.


Xavi Hernandez: Paul Scholes is a role model. For me – and I really mean this – he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.

Socrates (Brazil): Good enough to play for Brazil. I love to watch Scholes, to see him pass, the boy with the red hair and the red shirt.

Zinedine Zidane: My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation.

Marcello Lippi: Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. An all-round midfielder who possesses quality and character in abundance.

Laurent Blanc: I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player.

Sir Bobby Charlton: Many great players have worn the shirt of Manchester United. Players I worshipped, then lost with my youth in Munich. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite.

Roy Keane: No celebrity bullshit, no self-promotion – an amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being.

Sir Alex Ferguson: One of the greatest football brains Manchester United has ever had.

Edgar Davids: Everyone of us should emulate him. We can all learn from Paul Scholes.

Ryan Giggs: I’d go for Scholesy as the club’s greatest ever player. I’ve seen him do things that no other player can do. The way he can control the tempo of games, and his range of passing, are both incredible. We’ve seen over the years that players just haven’t been able to get near him. And you can’t forget his goals either.

Cesc Fabregas: For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate. One player does not make a team but there is no doubt that the presence of some players add extra motivation and confidence. Scholes is a player with character and is capable of transmitting that mental strength to his team-mates.

Frank Lampard: probably the most difficult opponent I’ve faced, apart from Monty.

 

[Sheff de party]

Teddy Sheringham was just outstanding for West Ham at the Lane. He was 38 and still ran the show without actually doing any running.

Can’t remember if anyone else applauded, but I wouldn’t have heard it due to my own clapping.

 

[wizadry]

He also gets better the longer he's retired.

I’ve always rated Scholes very highly if that’s a little dig at me?

 

[Sean Thornton]

It's all about opinions of course, but I'll just leave these here for balance.


Xavi Hernandez: Paul Scholes is a role model. For me – and I really mean this – he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.

Socrates (Brazil): Good enough to play for Brazil. I love to watch Scholes, to see him pass, the boy with the red hair and the red shirt.

Zinedine Zidane: My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation.

Marcello Lippi: Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. An all-round midfielder who possesses quality and character in abundance.

Laurent Blanc: I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player.

Sir Bobby Charlton: Many great players have worn the shirt of Manchester United. Players I worshipped, then lost with my youth in Munich. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite.

Roy Keane: No celebrity bullshit, no self-promotion – an amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being.

Sir Alex Ferguson: One of the greatest football brains Manchester United has ever had.

Edgar Davids: Everyone of us should emulate him. We can all learn from Paul Scholes.

Ryan Giggs: I’d go for Scholesy as the club’s greatest ever player. I’ve seen him do things that no other player can do. The way he can control the tempo of games, and his range of passing, are both incredible. We’ve seen over the years that players just haven’t been able to get near him. And you can’t forget his goals either.

Cesc Fabregas: For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate. One player does not make a team but there is no doubt that the presence of some players add extra motivation and confidence. Scholes is a player with character and is capable of transmitting that mental strength to his team-mates.

I've heard Louis Reed rates him highly as well......

 

[Pinchy]

I've heard Louis Reed rates him highly as well......

Now that one, I know is made up...

 

[Bashar Al Asaba]

The thought of giving any player respect on the basis that they play for Engerland is laughable quite frankly.

 

[Guesty]

I’ve always rated Scholes very highly if that’s a little dig at me?

Not at all, just a general trend. I know he certainly had his fans while he was playing.

 

[wizadry]

Not at all, just a general trend. I know he certainly had his fans while he was playing.

England were certainly a weaker team without Paul Scholes in it.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Most England players get slated when they play at the Lane (you ****ed it up for England, if the Nevilles can play for England etc etc) but I can remember 2 notable exceptions - Gazza (Spurs) and Ian Wright (Burnley). Both were given the bird during the game but got a standing ovation when they left the field.

Can anybody think of any others (excluding former players such as Kyle)?

That just sums up the unintellligible hypocrisy of some fans for me. Giving them the bird one minute and applauding them the next. How fickle or stupid can a person be?

You don’t have to like a player to admire their talent. It shouldn’t matter which shirt they are wearing. If they genuinely entertain you, show your appreciation FFS! (Unless they’re Wednesday or Leeds obviously!).

Blades fans did that for Kabba when he played against us at the Lane for Palace. He tore us a new one and some of us respected his ability. He also got a standing ovation. Not long after he was our player. He impressed us, but we also impressed him. That’s more important than what some may think.

When a player is thinking of signing for a club he’s bound to wonder how the fans will take to him. Take Dean Henderson of Man Utd as a very recent example. That kid can’t wait to get out in front of 28k Blades to feel the love. He’s said so already. It’s a powerful attraction for any player to represent a really passionate partisan crowd. Don’t be an arse by giving players the bird when the only reason for that is the colour of their shirt.

(Wait till they sign for us permanently then you can slag them off every week!)