Happy 40th birthday Paddy Kenny!

[The Crab]

Judas cunt

I think Judas 2nd name was Iscariot

 

[nowtfancy]

I'd have him alongside Tracey just below Kelly.
Oh to have a keeper of any of their standards again.

Paddy owes 'us' nowt we were happy to sell him. A cynic might say the 'standing by him' was really to ensure we could sell him.

 

[snootyfenooty]

It always baffles me how even in the modern football culture, a lot of fans still feel that players should be loyal or 'owe' the club in some way. In Paddy's case, he was banned but still under contract so the club were obligated to keep him, unless of course they sacked him which would probably have meant paying up his contract. Ched for example, was out of contract so the club simply released him at the end of that season (why wouldn't they). Shortly after the end of the ban, the club accepted a substantial offer from QPR for Paddy and he and more importantly, the club, accepted - so I don't see the problem. He's not a 'blade' as far as I know, he's from Halifax so it's not like he was playing for the club he supported as a kid. We don't know what was going on behind the scenes at the time.

Looking at the cases of Currie and Deane. Currie still claims he never wanted to leave but was literally driven to Leeds by then General Manager, John Harris and told to sign for them as the club needed the money. Although Deane admitted he supported Leeds as a boy, claims he didn't actually ask to leave and would have been happy to stay. We all know that it was Brealey who sold him without Bassett's consent and he could have ended up at Wednesday as they had offered £3.2m and Deane claims, "he couldn't do that to the fans".

A different case is Dane Whitehouse. Apparently Birmingham made an offer that was accepted by the club, but Dane went to see Spackman to check he would be in the managers plans. When he was reassured he would be, he rejected the move and presumably the club didn't push it. However Dane is a boyhood Blades fan so has much more affinity with the club than the others.

Thankfully, as far as I can recall, we haven't had players like Berahino who famously engineered a move himself and proper spat his dummy out about it or Van Hooijdonk at Forest who went on strike because the club wouldn't let him go.

Just check if the club 'looked after' Joe Shaw after he'd played around 650 games for the club and 20 years service.

It seems to me that the only real loyalty is that of the fans who have no choice but to slavishly follow their club through thick and thin.

Yet another instance of some of our fans wetting the bed for no reason. He left because McCabe got an offer for him and as per usual, he was out the door quicker than you could say Aldi. "Looking after" him, as some say over his drug ban was more like "Looking after his resale value" and anyone who thinks differently hasn't been following United long enough. The same applied to Ched when he was released from jail but that one backfired spectacularly. We haven't had anyone near his shot stopping ability since and you can include Blackman in that too, half of the long range stuff which has confounded both our GK's in the past season would have been saved with ease by Paddy.

 

[gordoncharles]

It always baffles me how even in the modern football culture, a lot of fans still feel that players should be loyal or 'owe' the club in some way. In Paddy's case, he was banned but still under contract so the club were obligated to keep him, unless of course they sacked him which would probably have meant paying up his contract. Ched for example, was out of contract so the club simply released him at the end of that season (why wouldn't they). Shortly after the end of the ban, the club accepted a substantial offer from QPR for Paddy and he and more importantly, the club, accepted - so I don't see the problem. He's not a 'blade' as far as I know, he's from Halifax so it's not like he was playing for the club he supported as a kid. We don't know what was going on behind the scenes at the time.
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Do I think players in general owe their clubs anything, no. Do I think Kenny owed The Blades something, probably yes.

But if you look at it more coldly, United signed him from Bury for a cut price fee (who themselves had made a profit on him and I believe it was Warnock who signed him for Bury in the first place).

He gets the ban in a way typical of his almost Selwyn Froggatt like personal life, and if I believe Kenny's story the club gave him a new contract while he was banned, on lower pay, promising to give him an improved deal when he returned. He says that new deal was then postponed till Christmas and was only brought to the table after QPR had triggered the release clause.

Why the hell did the club agree to a release clause only to then claim that some sort of moral imperative trumped something they'd actually included in the contract?

Kenny was meant to be on about 10k a week at the Lane so in the 9 months he was banned he trousered the thick end of 400k. As he was sold to QPR for 750k I think we can all see that United did not lose out by hanging on to him.

Birch et al might have been upset that they stood by the player and he then wanted to leave, but that's because they thought they had an asset. He'd have been dumped like a shot if he'd been out of form. Like they all are.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Judas cunt

Close. He was born the same day that Black Sabbath played the City Hall, supported by Van Halen.

 

[Jehovah]

Good shot stopper but a bit of a prick when pissed up, which was 90% of the time.

 

[super-dazzler]

I remember him sitting in the BMW service department with his kit bag between his feet with his personalised KENNY goalie gloves laid on top. (Just in case anyone didn't recognise him!!!)

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Paddy !!!! WTF

Dat what cough mixture does ?

Get's to shag a Dingle anall.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Excellent goalkeeper at one time, but a bit of a prat. I've got too many good memories of his time with us to dislike the bloke.

 

[Rodley]

“Trialist” was a decent performer in net for Halifax Irish in the early to mid 2000s on the odd Sunday apparently. Looked familiar.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Do I think players in general owe their clubs anything, no. Do I think Kenny owed The Blades something, probably yes.

But if you look at it more coldly, United signed him from Bury for a cut price fee (who themselves had made a profit on him and I believe it was Warnock who signed him for Bury in the first place).

He gets the ban in a way typical of his almost Selwyn Froggatt like personal life, and if I believe Kenny's story the club gave him a new contract while he was banned, on lower pay, promising to give him an improved deal when he returned. He says that new deal was then postponed till Christmas and was only brought to the table after QPR had triggered the release clause.

Why the hell did the club agree to a release clause only to then claim that some sort of moral imperative trumped something they'd actually included in the contract?

Kenny was meant to be on about 10k a week at the Lane so in the 9 months he was banned he trousered the thick end of 400k. As he was sold to QPR for 750k I think we can all see that United did not lose out by hanging on to him.

Birch et al might have been upset that they stood by the player and he then wanted to leave, but that's because they thought they had an asset. He'd have been dumped like a shot if he'd been out of form. Like they all are.

I think what this discussion highlights is how poor United have been at negotiating contracts with players. We've seen it time and again. Why put such a relatively low release clause in Kenny's contract, why have such a small release clause in MacDonald's contract? The most likely answer is to save a few quid on their weekly wages and bonuses, but it's bad business when it has meant such derisory fees, not to mention the overall impact to the performances of the team on the pitch.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Saw Paddy not too long ago walking/swaying through Leeds with his missus on a Sunday afternoon. She was carrying a bottle of wine and he was all over her.

Nothing but love for him for his services here!

It won’t have been his missus

 

[Revolution]

I think what this discussion highlights is how poor United have been at negotiating contracts with players. We've seen it time and again. Why put such a relatively low release clause in Kenny's contract, why have such a small release clause in MacDonald's contract? The most likely answer is to save a few quid on their weekly wages and bonuses, but it's bad business when it has meant such derisory fees, not to mention the overall impact to the performances of the team on the pitch.

Exactly - United low balled Kenny and then were out-manoeuvred by Kenny's agent and QPR. I've never understood why they stuck that clause in. Kenny was in no position to demand it.

Kenny was a great keeper for us. Not quite as good as Kelly or Tracey, but gave us some excellent seasons. Personally I thought he was at his best before he got injured early in 2003-4 at Palace, but he was still good after that.

I met him once and thought he was a nice bloke. He was friendly to Blades fans during that encounter. Small sample size of course.

 

[raul]

I think what this discussion highlights is how poor United have been at negotiating contracts with players. We've seen it time and again. Why put such a relatively low release clause in Kenny's contract, why have such a small release clause in MacDonald's contract? The most likely answer is to save a few quid on their weekly wages and bonuses, but it's bad business when it has meant such derisory fees, not to mention the overall impact to the performances of the team on the pitch.

Pesky. Agents. I assume Simon is on holiday?

 

[Revolution]

Pesky. Agents. I assume Simon is on holiday?

He must be. He's not challenged me on the sales of Maguire and Walker either in the Maguire thread...

Perhaps he and WWF have rented a caravan on neutral ground (Bridlington) to sort out their differences.

 

[The Crab]

It won’t have been his missus

Somebody's missus?

 

[The Crab]

He must be. He's not challenged me on the sales of Maguire and Walker either in the Maguire thread...

Perhaps he and WWF have rented a caravan on neutral ground (Bridlington) to sort out their differences.

Highlights courtesy of Crab Sports..............................

 

[coaxingstar71]

Exactly - United low balled Kenny and then were out-manoeuvred by Kenny's agent and QPR. I've never understood why they stuck that clause in. Kenny was in no position to demand it.

Kenny was a great keeper for us. Not quite as good as Kelly or Tracey, but gave us some excellent seasons. Personally I thought he was at his best before he got injured early in 2003-4 at Palace, but he was still good after that.

I met him once and thought he was a nice bloke. He was friendly to Blades fans during that encounter. Small sample size of course.

It's nothing new either, I still recall a 34 year old Peter Withe being awarded a 3 year contract.

The decision to award Porterfield a staggering 10 year contract was highly questionable too.

 

[Revolution]

It's nothing new either, I still recall a 34 year old Peter Withe being awarded a 3 year contract.

Which he actually completed!

 

[RedandWhite]

I've heard he still to this day uses a couple of our treadmills