That’s it then

[Eric Cartman]

How on earth do you know what goes on behind the scenes at United? Painting a picture of dream-like existence doesn't mean that's how it actually is. Either present facts or choose not to use hyperbole to suggest all's well.

I don't recall saying moving to Sunderland would be an easy job. Again, you're making up supposed scenarios simply to give substance to what you'd like to happen. Show me where I've mentioned the Sunderland job and I'll be happy to give you credit. As things stand you deserve the complete opposite.

How do you know the state of the relationship between the owners of United? You don't, yet you claim that everything's been ok until January. Clearly you have evidence of what's happened and when it began? Don't be evasive, just present the evidence to show that you know what you're talking about.

Off you go, find the facts and present them. Otherwise your comments will be seen as riddled with nonsensical exaggeration.

How on earth don't you? Did you not use the internet last season? The WHOLE tone of last season was Chris wanting 100% from his players and when it came to them signing contracts it was about them repaying the loyalty he'd shown them.

If everything wasn't okay, we'd have heard about it. Chris had a budget like he's never had before.

He's been in jobs all his life where he hasn't had money to spend. He's had a job where he wasn't being paid due to the boardroom struggle. Don't sit there and try and tell me THIS is worse than the situation at Northampton?

P.S, using big words doesn't make your point any more or less valid.

 

[Lane Ender]

Exactly, I can cope with any player or manager leaving for the premier league. But dropping a division to go to Sunderland from your boyhood club looks bad on both Wilder and the board. Lets be honest though there aren't a host of premier league clubs queuing up for a manger who's club in half a season dropped from top to 11th and have one win in ten. Wilder bought poorly in January regardless of his budget and really isn't in a position to be issuing ultimatums if he choses to go so be it. I don't like the fact this is happening before the season is even over.

There,s nobody begging for Wilder to take the reigns only Sunderland and thats an old pals act

 

[Roygbiv]

 

[Sean Thornton]

Not like me to cynical but have the EFL ratified Donald's consortiums takeover of SAFC? If not, there can be no "approach from Sunderland" unless Ellis Short has changed his mind.

Maybe the question should have been "have you had an approach from Stewart Donald? "

 

[sheffielder]

Not like me to cynical but have the EFL ratified Donald's consortiums takeover of SAFC? If not, there can be no "approach from Sunderland" unless Ellis Short has changed his mind.

Maybe the question should have been "have you had an approach from Stewart Donald? "

I am a bit confused by this guy spending 70m on Sunderland in the 1st div, just to take on the debts and go after our manager.

There is a club in the championship which would cost far less with everything in place and the manager he wants.

 

[Rusty view]

Not like me to cynical but have the EFL ratified Donald's consortiums takeover of SAFC? If not, there can be no "approach from Sunderland" unless Ellis Short has changed his mind.

Maybe the question should have been "have you had an approach from Stewart Donald? "

CW: "I met Stewy for a quiet drink last week as we go back a long way and are still friends"

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I am a bit confused by this guy spending 70m on Sunderland in the 1st div, just to take on the debts and go after our manager.

There is a club in the championship which would cost far less with everything in place and the manager he wants.

You could also add the fact that we've shown that we are there or there abouts in the championship as well. It would seem like a no brainer. It's one of life's great mysteries isn't it?

*Edit: Obviously, Sunderland can get circa 45k attendances, something we can't.

 

[zablade]

I am a bit confused by this guy spending 70m on Sunderland in the 1st div, just to take on the debts and go after our manager.

There is a club in the championship which would cost far less with everything in place and the manager he wants.

Who would get about 20k less though the doors in the Premier Leagues and have a stadium that needs about £15m spending on it.

 

[Jan Age]

It is concerning that not one of the powers that be has shown an ounce of good leadership and spoken to CW after his interview last week.

They can both do one if that is the case as it really is shocking.

Regarding CW - it will leave a slight bitter taste about him if he leaves without giving it at least one more season but I could understand why given that he seems to ensure that each one of his players understands exactly their position at the club. It is only natural that he would expect to be treated in the same manner.

I find the whole situation baffling.

 

[The Crab]

 

[sheffielder]

Who would get about 20k less though the doors in the Premier Leagues and have a stadium that needs about £15m spending on it.

Which still would be cheaper than buying Sunderland

 

[itsinyerblood]

How on earth don't you? Did you not use the internet last season? The WHOLE tone of last season was Chris wanting 100% from his players and when it came to them signing contracts it was about them repaying the loyalty he'd shown them.

If everything wasn't okay, we'd have heard about it. Chris had a budget like he's never had before.

He's been in jobs all his life where he hasn't had money to spend. He's had a job where he wasn't being paid due to the boardroom struggle. Don't sit there and try and tell me THIS is worse than the situation at Northampton?

P.S, using big words doesn't make your point any more or less valid.

Apart from making daft attempts at why words should be restricted to a specific size (Feeling insecure? Maybe that's all you've ever known, to speak in words of two or three syllables, so anything beyond this causes you to struggle?)

Your introductory comment didn't make sense - "How on earth don't you?". How on earth don't I what? As for the remainder of you views about Wilder, you still haven't offered factual evidence, just a vague (long word alert!) description without actual evidence of what Wilder said.

Emphasising that you have an issue with words of a certain length makes no sense. Are you suggesting that the English language should be reduced to a limited number of communications (sorry, another long word)?

 

[HoodedClaw]

I know McCabes heart is in the right place, but he hasn't half dropped some bollocks during his reign, and given where we are now, giving Wilder an excuse to leave would be up there with the best of them

Could you share the info you have that's enabled you to put all the blame on McCabe?

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Could you share the info you have that's enabled you to put all the blame on McCabe?

This time if there's blame it's indirectly on McCabe for the nature of the deal he signed with the Prince which left the door open for the kind of impasse we now have.

 

[GrayBlade]

A poster on Bladesmad who TBF has got a few bits of info right before, says that Wilder’s going nowhere for at least a year and funds will work be made available for him to bring in some quality.

Fingers crossed eh?

 

[Esablade]

This time if there's blame it's indirectly on McCabe for the nature of the deal he signed with the Prince which left the door open for the kind of impasse we now have.

Bang on and what's more shocking is the fact that neither owner has 'had any dialogue' with Wilder...Princey you might understand what with the rumours but you'd think McCabe would have an informal word!?!?!?

 

[Robboblade1889]

First of all I am a massive fan of wilder he is the best manager we have had in a generation. For what he has done for this club is incredible and if we lose him it would literally tear this club apart.

I have just listened to his interview and something doesn’t quite sit right. He did seem to be enjoying it a little too much for me. I’m not sure if something has suddenly and dramatically happened since he signed his new contract but it would be a good question.

All this boardroom stuff has not just happened it has been rumbling on a while so why sign this new contract? I wish he had done this at the end of the season and spoke about it all then. There does seem an element of getting out while his stick is so high. I hope I am wrong and for the good of this club I hope he stays.

 

[HoodedClaw]

This time if there's blame it's indirectly on McCabe for the nature of the deal he signed with the Prince which left the door open for the kind of impasse we now have.

So no potential blame on HRH for maybe not honouring the deal that was brokered?

Looks agenda based to me.

More than happy to blame McCabe if it's his fault the same as I'm more than happy to blame HRH if it's his, or even both.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

The 8/13 odds are from Betvictor. Sky have him at 5/4 with Appleton at 2/1. Jap Stam is 6/1. For me, more likely candidates are Mick McCarthy, Kevin Phillips, or the Cowley brothers. I would imagine CW`s stance, as things stand, is to persuade the owners to get their fingers out quickly so that he is able to put early plans in place for next season at the Lane.

 

[Sean Thornton]

CW: "I met Stewy for a quiet drink last week as we go back a long way and are still friends"

Nah. His death stare would prevent the question even being asked.

 

[Sean Thornton]

So no potential blame on HRH for maybe not honouring the deal that was brokered?

Looks agenda based to me.

More than happy to blame McCabe if it's his fault the same as I'm more than happy to blame HRH if it's his, or even both.

Spot on.

You do realise that even without the Wilder question, we're in for months of "that fucking McCabe " or "that fucking Prince"?

 

[super_pig]

If Wilder goes, that me done. A bit of an emotional reaction, but I'm absolutely fed up of United been consistently held back due to off the field issues.

I know McCabes heart is in the right place, but he hasn't half dropped some bollocks during his reign, and given where we are now, giving Wilder an excuse to leave would be up there with the best of them

me an’ll mate

 

[Sean Thornton]

A poster on Bladesmad who TBF has got a few bits of info right before, says that Wilder’s going nowhere for at least a year and funds will work be made available for him to bring in some quality.

Fingers crossed eh?

A year. Get rid now I say. Get the Appleton twins in from Lincoln NOW McCabe.....

 

[super_pig]

No ones had a winning bet on Adolf since I had a 641 up for him to manage Germany , Poland, Belgium and France at the same time......

CW is the best option because he took a team in chaos to L1 champions with 100 goals in his first season.. total no brainer

 

[super_pig]

Sorry, I've kept by powder dry mainly on this but IF (and its a big if) he goes to Sunderland he's not got the ambition I want from a Blades manager.

West Brom I'd get, any Prem job I'd get, hell, anyone with more than 3 quid and a packet of wotsits to spend in the transfer window in the CHAMPIONSHIP I'd get. But to drop to League One again? To a car crash of a club that needs a total rebuild? A risky poison chalice which could destroy your reputation in months like with Grayson and Coleman?

Makes absolutely no sense career wise and if he does that he'll have no well wishes from me. It'll show that he couldn't wait to get away. It'll show that he wasn't willing to carry on the fight. It'll show that he didn't believe in himself or his players to replicate this seasons showing. It'll show that he doesn't have the loyalty he screams for from his players, and that doesn't sit right with me.

in the long term sunderland are much bigger than west brom

 

[HoodedClaw]

Spot on.

You do realise that even without the Wilder question, we're in for months of "that fucking McCabe " or "that fucking Prince"?

Aye, between this and fucking pledges I'm losing the will to live.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

So no potential blame on HRH for maybe not honouring the deal that was brokered?

Looks agenda based to me.

More than happy to blame McCabe if it's his fault the same as I'm more than happy to blame HRH if it's his, or even both.

McCabe owned the club and it was his decision to do the deal he did with the Prince.
No doubt he thought it was a reasonable deal at the time to share the financial burden but there was always the potential for something like this to happen.
If the Prince has not honoured a contractual agreement I'd have thought the deal would be null and void but is there evidence of that?

 

[Sean Thornton]

CW is the best option because he took a team in chaos to L1 champions with 100 goals in his first season.. total no brainer

?

 

[Sean Thornton]

McCabe owned the club and it was his decision to do the deal he did with the Prince.
No doubt he thought it was a reasonable deal at the time to share the financial burden but there was always the potential for something like this to happen.
If the Prince has not honoured a contractual agreement I'd have thought the deal would be null and void but is there evidence of that?

Breach of contract? No one could just walk away though. How would that work?

When trying to pin all the blame on McCabe, it's probably best to apply some simple common sense, you don't need a law degree.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Look on the bright side. We are now a very competent championship team. As far as CW is concerned it is “Job done.”
If he really wants to move on to what is a “bigger club.”.........Good luck to him.