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And nobody knows them from Adam, it's not like they have a track record of sorting clubs out is it? Stuart Donald has never chaired a football league club. They could quite easily continue to tumble because there's no proof anyone knows what they're doing.

If Chris is willing to risk his reputation, leave 'his' club for a side like that, a league below - maybe he's not as much of a man or blade as I thought he was.

You could well be right mate, either way we just don't know.
 

And nobody knows them from Adam, it's not like they have a track record of sorting clubs out is it? Stuart Donald has never chaired a football league club. They could quite easily continue to tumble because there's no proof anyone knows what they're doing.

If Chris is willing to risk his reputation, leave 'his' club for a side like that, a league below - maybe he's not as much of a man or blade as I thought he was.

Your last line, where you question what sort of man Wilder is, is about as nonsensical and unpleasant as any I've read regarding whether Wilder stays or leaves.

Not a single poster knows what's going on behind the scenes to cause this situation to become a possibility, yet the damning comments, the way in which the ill-informed choose to tear apart Wilder's character, is worrying in the extreme. Unless you're Wilder's best mate, how on earth would you know how he arrives at his decision making? How would you possibly know whether he's leaving United or staying as manager? Yet you question his standing and what sort of person he is. 'Not much of a man'........how on earth did you arrive at that? It's stupid, ignorant, and a falsehood of ginormous proportions.
 
Your last line, where you question what sort of man Wilder is, is about as nonsensical and unpleasant as any I've read regarding whether Wilder stays or leaves.

Not a single poster knows what's going on behind the scenes to cause this situation to become a possibility, yet the damning comments, the way in which the ill-informed choose to tear apart Wilder's character, is worrying in the extreme. Unless you're Wilder's best mate, how on earth would you know how he arrives at his decision making? How would you possibly know whether he's leaving United or staying as manager? Yet you question his standing and what sort of person he is. 'Not much of a man'........how on earth did you arrive at that? It's stupid, ignorant, and a falsehood of ginormous proportions.
This is of course hypothetical, as he hasn't gone.

I've said it before I'll say it again. I will think less of Chris as a man if he leaves us, 'his' club to go to a sinking ship that's just been relegated to League One. And I couldn't care less what you think about it.

The first sign of a fight and he jumps ship from his apparent dream job? After screaming for loyalty from his players for 2 seasons? Don't think so.
Unless behind the scenes he's being told "if you don't win the first 10 games you're out" there's absolutely no excuse for that career move.
 
Sunderland is a graveyard for managers.
Even though l respect him as a manager and his work over the last two we will move on nobody is bigger than the club

That would be ok to a point but I don't think for a minute that we can get a replacement as good as Wilder. I'm resigned to what will be will be and I've accepted that we are in for a few weeks of uncertainty - its not like we can do anything about it is there! But if he goes then I can only see an inferior replacement coming in because Wilder, in my view, is an exceptional manager.
 
We thought we had problems trying to extracate ourselves from John Brayford and Dean Hammonds contracts so we could fund Chris Wilders successful league one promotion.The good news for Chris is that Jack Rodwell has had his contract reviewed at Sunderland and he is now only earning £45K a week,if he thought he had problems here,i'm pretty sure the Sunderland situation is probably worse.The one overriding puzzle is,that whether McCabe,Prince individually or jointly are in charge next season our player budget will not be sufficent to get promotion from the championship,we all know this,so why is Chris making a 'song and dance' about it now.If he wants to go,then go,but don't keep bringing up the budget,we all know it will never be enough !!!!
 
I've said it before I'll say it again. I will think less of Chris as a man if he leaves us, 'his' club to go to a sinking ship that's just been relegated to League One. And I couldn't care less what you think about it.

The first sign of a fight and he jumps ship from his apparent dream job? After screaming for loyalty from his players for 2 seasons? Don't think so.
Unless behind the scenes he's being told "if you don't win the first 10 games you're out" there's absolutely no excuse for that career move.

A perfect example of how not to accurately describe life at United. Show me where Wilder 'screamed' at his players about being loyal.

What you describe as 'the first sign of a fight' is pretty meaningless. What evidence do you have regarding what's gone on behind the scenes at United? Maybe there have been several instances where the owners have caused Wilder to rethink his position, yet he's stayed and not allowed other damaging circumstance to interfere with what he's paid to do? We all have an example of the straw that broke the camel's back. Maybe what's happened is what applies to this situation? But making groundless claims without any genuine understanding will only make you seem increasingly pointless when it comes to knowing what you're talking about.

You've no idea, you clearly imagine scenarios of doom and gloom, yet you have no factual examples, let alone evidence, to suggest you know what you're talking about.
 
A perfect example of how not to accurately describe life at United. Show me where Wilder 'screamed' at his players about being loyal.

What you describe as 'the first sign of a fight' is pretty meaningless. What evidence do you have regarding what's gone on behind the scenes at United? Maybe there have been several instances where the owners have caused Wilder to rethink his position, yet he's stayed and not allowed other damaging circumstance to interfere with what he's paid to do? We all have an example of the straw that broke the camel's back. Maybe what's happened is what applies to this situation? But making groundless claims without any genuine understanding will only make you seem increasingly pointless when it comes to knowing what you're talking about.

You've no idea, you clearly imagine scenarios of doom and gloom, yet you have no factual examples, let alone evidence, to suggest you know what you're talking about.
It was a recurring theme last year, loyalty.
And there's been absolutely no evidence of a fight going on behind the scenes until the owners started squabbling in January. That's why.
It's all been very plain sailing compared to what he's used to, would you not agree?
And do you think Sunderland would be a cake walk in comparison? If so - you're an idiot.

You keep talking about 'meaningless' and 'pointless' but I'd say your hot air above is more that than anything else.

If Chris wants to go to League One Sunderland I'll still respect the 2 years he's given us, but I'll certainly think less of him.
 
That seems very worrying to me. Surely if he wasn't going he'd just put the rumour to bed so we could all move on.
I'm honestly not worried anymore. I've put it down to whatever will be will be.

All I know is if I was in charge of mid table finishing, Championship Sheffield United, MY club - I wouldn't be slagging myself about for a League One job with a very uncertain background.

He's doing nothing but irritating not only the owners but a number of fans who like me are probably a bit disappointed in this.

Fair enough, come out and say what you think about the situation like after the Preston game. But when it comes to links to other clubs just keep your mouth shut like any other manager would. It's what we slag Warnock off for doing (the whole Portsmouth scenario) but at least that made sense. This makes absolutely none.
 
You know, love Wilder for everything he's done on the pitch, but he doesn't half go on sometimes, and it does him (or us) no favours.

See November's 'we're just going to give it the best shot' schpeal before the nosedive, pre-match over confidence vs Pigs and now this. As with McCabe in the past, would be best keeping quiet now, he's said his piece after Preston, we get it. Hope he doesn't regret it...
 

It was a recurring theme last year, loyalty.
And there's been absolutely no evidence of a fight going on behind the scenes until the owners started squabbling in January. That's why.
It's all been very plain sailing compared to what he's used to, would you not agree?
And do you think Sunderland would be a cake walk in comparison? If so - you're an idiot.

You keep talking about 'meaningless' and 'pointless' but I'd say your hot air above is more that than anything else.

If Chris wants to go to League One Sunderland I'll still respect the 2 years he's given us, but I'll certainly think less of him.

How on earth do you know what goes on behind the scenes at United? Painting a picture of dream-like existence doesn't mean that's how it actually is. Either present facts or choose not to use hyperbole to suggest all's well.

I don't recall saying moving to Sunderland would be an easy job. Again, you're making up supposed scenarios simply to give substance to what you'd like to happen. Show me where I've mentioned the Sunderland job and I'll be happy to give you credit. As things stand you deserve the complete opposite.

How do you know the state of the relationship between the owners of United? You don't, yet you claim that everything's been ok until January. Clearly you have evidence of what's happened and when it began? Don't be evasive, just present the evidence to show that you know what you're talking about.

Off you go, find the facts and present them. Otherwise your comments will be seen as riddled with nonsensical exaggeration.
 
Your last line, where you question what sort of man Wilder is, is about as nonsensical and unpleasant as any I've read regarding whether Wilder stays or leaves.

Not a single poster knows what's going on behind the scenes to cause this situation to become a possibility, yet the damning comments, the way in which the ill-informed choose to tear apart Wilder's character, is worrying in the extreme. Unless you're Wilder's best mate, how on earth would you know how he arrives at his decision making? How would you possibly know whether he's leaving United or staying as manager? Yet you question his standing and what sort of person he is. 'Not much of a man'........how on earth did you arrive at that? It's stupid, ignorant, and a falsehood of ginormous proportions.

Spot on
 
That seems very worrying to me. Surely if he wasn't going he'd just put the rumour to bed so we could all move on.

This perhaps even more so. I appreciate neither party may want to talk publicly. I am concerned that no words have been said privately to Wilder from either party since the weekend.

 
Wilder's obviously very unhappy about what's been going on at boardroom level and if he chooses to go you can't blame him. He has his career to think of.
 
That seems very worrying to me. Surely if he wasn't going he'd just put the rumour to bed so we could all move on.
Honestly why worry? I'm finding the reaction to the possibility of Wilder leaving slightly over the top. I don't want him to leave obviously but if he does then so be it, there was Sheffield United before him and there will be after. I won't be the only one thinking less of him if he joins a league one side at the first sign of boardroom trouble.
 
Wilder's obviously very unhappy about what's been going on at boardroom level and if he chooses to go you can't blame him. He has his career to think of.
You certainly can blame him, jumping ship downwards to league one at the first sign of behind the scenes trouble, that is not the actions of a 'true Blade'.
 
This perhaps even more so. I appreciate neither party may want to talk publicly. I am concerned that no words have been said privately to Wilder from either party since the weekend.


Zero communication since the weekend, great. Seems like a really healthy relationship.

Honestly I'm gutted by all this shit with Wilder kicking off, just as we all thought the tide was turning.
 
At least Thanos didn't snap his fingers and wipe out half the population of the universe.
 
You certainly can blame him, jumping ship downwards to league one at the first sign of behind the scenes trouble, that is not the actions of a 'true Blade'.

He's a professional football manager first and foremost.
If he's not going to be reasonably supported here - and it was pointed out by a few on here that the January transfer window showed he wasn't - he's likely to consider his future.
 
Zero communication since the weekend, great. Seems like a really healthy relationship.

Honestly I'm gutted by all this shit with Wilder kicking off, just as we all thought the tide was turning.


Did he phone James from the Hilton Gateshead to tell him that?
 
Honestly why worry? I'm finding the reaction to the possibility of Wilder leaving slightly over the top. I don't want him to leave obviously but if he does then so be it, there was Sheffield United before him and there will be after. I won't be the only one thinking less of him if he joins a league one side at the first sign of boardroom trouble.
Exactly, I can cope with any player or manager leaving for the premier league. But dropping a division to go to Sunderland from your boyhood club looks bad on both Wilder and the board. Lets be honest though there aren't a host of premier league clubs queuing up for a manger who's club in half a season dropped from top to 11th and have one win in ten. Wilder bought poorly in January regardless of his budget and really isn't in a position to be issuing ultimatums if he choses to go so be it. I don't like the fact this is happening before the season is even over.
 

He's a professional football manager first and foremost.
If he's not going to be reasonably supported here - and it was pointed out by a few on here that the January transfer window showed he wasn't - he's likely to consider his future.


Trouble? And back comes Len like a whore at a christening.
 

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