Millwall fans opinion on both Sheffield clubs

[EddieColquhoun]

That photo must have been took , just before the pig-fans attacked the Palace players , still waiting to see what punishment they got ??

I can remember seeing on TV a shortar$e Wendy throw about 3 punches at Clint Hill. The Wendy looked like he'd never thrown a punch in his life and none of them went close to his target.

 

[Sheffsteel]

That photo must have been took , just before the pig-fans attacked the Palace players , still waiting to see what punishment they got ??

If I remember weren’t the pig fans innocent in all this, apparently they were goaded by them naughty Palace fans.
Golden rule 1.....remember it’s never ever their fault.
Golden rules 2.....remember its scummy Blades that create trouble, kidney punching little kids and pensioners.
Any pig fans involved in trouble were obviously just defending themselves.

 

[COME BACK CHED]

I can remember seeing on TV a shortar$e Wendy throw about 3 punches at Clint Hill. The Wendy looked like he'd never thrown a punch in his life and none of them went close to his target.

Intent that counts , remember Stevie G and his penalty .

 

[Jehovah]

Who cares?

63 people so far

 

[JohnDenver]

Millwall are a curate's egg of a club. The fans I've known personally (albeit very few) have had a great take on the game based on humour and belonging, not glory. They're based in a rough arse location and the club genuinely is part of a community. But their history of genuine nastiness and violence is ridiculously long. There's a poisonous aspect to Millwall's culture that they cannot shake.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I don’t get why being working class or middle class is relevant and used as a positive or negative when it comes to supporting your club.

Agree! I’m confused because I’ve been both but still support the Blades. Maybe when I rise to the aristocracy I’ll support Wednesday? I’ll be able to afford one of their season tickets then.

 

[Caveblade]

Mark the illiterate pitsmoor bank robber and Mick the patronising Rawmarsh taxi driver, middle class? Not seeing it personally.

The class argument is a load of tosh. Both clubs have a random mix of people from all walks of life. The difference seems to be the make up of the person. The average pig has a lack of humour, a sense of entitlement and a complete lack of perspective.

I was at the NEC in Brum this week. A guy came on to our stand who was from a company in Sheffield. My Pigdar picked him up straight away. Dour, humourless, slightly arrogant, yes he was a truffle Hunter.

I then had ten minutes of snuffling about it would have been so different without the injuries! Yawn.

 

[S64 Blade]

I don’t think there’s any difference in class either and if anything we may have more middle class fans, given where the wealthier areas of the city are centered and our fan base. Not that it matters where you’re from.

 

[1980]

Millwall are a curate's egg of a club. The fans I've known personally (albeit very few) have had a great take on the game based on humour and belonging, not glory. They're based in a rough arse location and the club genuinely is part of a community. But their history of genuine nastiness and violence is ridiculously long. There's a poisonous aspect to Millwall's culture that they cannot shake.

I think that's an unfair characterisation of us.

Millwall was always rough and ready - the club is based in the London docklands and right up to the late 70s a significant number of the crowd were dockers. It was the sort of place where if you stepped out of line you got a right-hander. Before football violence became a culture, it was never a nasty / poisonous type of violence (bare with me here), it was more like some cocky away fans mouthing off on the Halfway and getting a slap and then slung out. The dockers never went looking for trouble or tried picking on people (they were almost a cliche of that old working class image, ie hated bullies, loved their mms, but liked a scrap).

And as for the hooligan gangs that started out in the late 1960s, in all my time of following Millwall I have only ever seen them attack & fight other like minded individuals.

Yes, we do have some scumbag hangers-on that have come out for big games & tried living up to the Millwall 'rep' by being as obnoxious as possible - but I certainly do not consider them to be part of our bread and butter support.

 

[JohnDenver]

I think that's an unfair characterisation of us.

Millwall was always rough and ready - the club is based in the London docklands and right up to the late 70s a significant number of the crowd were dockers. It was the sort of place where if you stepped out of line you got a right-hander. Before football violence became a culture, it was never a nasty / poisonous type of violence (bare with me here), it was more like some cocky away fans mouthing off on the Halfway and getting a slap and then slung out. The dockers never went looking for trouble or tried picking on people (they were almost a cliche of that old working class image, ie hated bullies, loved their mms, but liked a scrap).

And as for the hooligan gangs that started out in the late 1960s, in all my time of following Millwall I have only ever seen them attack & fight other like minded individuals.

Yes, we do have some scumbag hangers-on that have come out for big games & tried living up to the Millwall 'rep' by being as obnoxious as possible - but I certainly do not consider them to be part of our bread and butter support.

Fair points.

In truth I’ve come to the same conclusion I have with England’s following. Their reputation goes before them and a lot of people do get unfairly caught up.

But ultimately bother has followed them around for decades and it still does. Eventually you stop making excuses.

So lots to admire but also fed up of the grief that comes with it, and has since I was a boy.

 

[JPBrods]

I'll quite happily put it on the record that if they beat us today, pretty much ending our season, I'd like them to go on to win the playoffs. It takes a huge amount of shine off our season if a fellow League One last season outfit outperforms us, but pah.

 

[JohnDenver]

It takes a huge amount of shine off our season if a fellow League One last season outfit outperforms us, but pah.

Why would it? I might cast an envious glance at them, but we’ve absolutely no control over how another club develops its team. We’ve done very well, and the fact someone else does exceptionally well doesn’t alter our own efforts.

 

[tonytonycurrie]

Chel

In view of the mutual admiration between the two clubs, I think it would be a good idea to have unsegregated seating on Saturday and to let us mingle....

P.S. at a Blades v Millwall game in the 60s it was the first (and only) time I'd seen a hatchet produced at at football match.

 

[tonytonycurrie]

On the Kop, Chelsea fans running amok. Guy in full length leather coat opened coat and sawn off shotgun in holster. Nearly shit myself.

 

[metalblade]

I think the middle class pig fans label should read scrubbers who think they are middle class, you know the sort of cunt who has just bought his council house on the Cross and now votes Tory.

 

[Tom Bott]

most genuinely ‘working class’ people would really struggle to justify £40 to watch a game of football shit.

FTFY.