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There are good reasons why we would want to get promoted this time.
1. The smaller clubs staying up are benefitting more and more from massive funds. Burnley, Watford, Swansea, Bournemouth etc. don't need big crowds to continue to be above us as the money is so big, each extra season they stay up, they pull further and further away.
2. It's likely Wolves, Fulham and either Cardiff / Villa will go up replaced by West Brom joined by two of Stoke, CP, Newcastle, Southampton, Huddersfield, West Ham or Swansea. None of the three coming down have Hull / Sunderland finance issues. Therefore more strong teams in the Championship. The Boing Boing Baggies tend to go between the two divisions, Newcastle pissed it last year and the others have decent accounts due to the +£100mil influx.
3. Some of the clubs not sorted this season could (I have to say could as two of them are the dirties and the pigs) sort themselves out next season making the division stronger. This also includes Derby, Forest, Middlesboro (now they have Pulis), Norwich and Ipswich.
4. Stronger lower clubs like Preston, Millwall, Bolton, Brentford and Wigan who will be on a high.
5. Ownership issues causing investment issues.

All making next season in the Championship harder to exit and the Prem harder to stay in the longer we are out of it.

On the other hand
1. We have Wilder and Knill.
2. Coutts will be available.
3. Phenomenal team spirit.
4. Some Astute signings after some of the bit part players leave.
5. Either Brooks playing more regularly or the money from Brooks (hopefully the former).

So I'm happy either way. We have had an amazing season and even flirted with promotion which could still happen regardless of how unlikely.
 



We're not getting promoted and no we shouldn't worry.

We came up with the target of survival. We've been spoilt with some good football and cracking results. But we're not as good as some of the teams above us.

We have benefitted from coming up off the back of a 100 point season with the confidence and that dreaded M word. Which we seem to have lost a little bit. But the summer gives us chance to strengthen and go again.

We should be looking up and not down
 
All depends on how the ownership squabble resolves itself and even more crucially what happens with Wilder.

If we have similar levels of investment as this season and still have the same management team then we should be comfortable mid table next season even if we were to lose a couple like Fleck and JOC in the summer.

However similar levels of investment with a different manager and we could be in trouble.

Alternatively a moneybags China man could come in and then who knows.
 
SelbyBlade said:
There are good reasons why we would want to get promoted this time.
1. The smaller clubs staying up are benefitting more and more from massive funds. Burnley, Watford, Swansea, Bournemouth etc. don't need big crowds to continue to be above us as the money is so big, each extra season they stay up, they pull further and further away.
2. It's likely Wolves, Fulham and either Cardiff / Villa will go up replaced by West Brom joined by two of Stoke, CP, Newcastle, Southampton, Huddersfield, West Ham or Swansea. None of the three coming down have Hull / Sunderland finance issues. Therefore more strong teams in the Championship. The Boing Boing Baggies tend to go between the two divisions, Newcastle pissed it last year and the others have decent accounts due to the +£100mil influx.
3. Some of the clubs not sorted this season could (I have to say could as two of them are the dirties and the pigs) sort themselves out next season making the division stronger. This also includes Derby, Forest, Middlesboro (now they have Pulis), Norwich and Ipswich.
4. Stronger lower clubs like Preston, Millwall, Bolton, Brentford and Wigan who will be on a high.
5. Ownership issues causing investment issues.

All making next season in the Championship harder to exit and the Prem harder to stay in the longer we are out of it.

On the other hand
1. We have Wilder and Knill.
2. Coutts will be available.
3. Phenomenal team spirit.
4. Some Astute signings after some of the bit part players leave.
5. Either Brooks playing more regularly or the money from Brooks (hopefully the former).

So I'm happy either way. We have had an amazing season and even flirted with promotion which could still happen regardless of how unlikely.
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The way you put it it the Championship will just be like La Liga next season. Now where have I heard that before?

Worry not, there will be the usual fuck ups, mismanagement and glory boys spunking all their parachute money and more in a failed attempt to go straight back up. We could be amongst them, you never know, but the Championship will stay as its always been, an open division with all to play for by everyone in it.
 
I'm not worried if we don't get promoted!. We're still in the process of rebuilding under wilder/knill. This season has been absolutely fantastic and I still can't believe that we're 8th and 3 points off the playoffs!!. It's still possible but there are very strong teams in there at the moment. Villa & Fulham. Wilder will already be formulating plans for next season. Onwards and upwards. UTB
 
SelbyBlade
First 2 points on why we need to get promoted (as soon as possible) are excellent. This season was a free hit and still all to play for we can't and I'm sure we won't let results against Wolves/Fulham effect how we go about things. Our management have already proved more than once that every time we get knocked down we shall rise again.
 
Being “stranded” in the Championship is a whole different kettle of fish to being “stranded” in league 1. The only way it becomes a worry in the Champ is if we are throwing ludicrous sums of money at it, risking the clubs future and still not going up- which we aren't.

We’re a club that should be more than comfortable at this level. Lets face it- in the last 30 years, we had one seriously awful season in the second tier- everything went wrong and we went down. But every year before that, we ended up nearer the top than the bottom- even the Robson debacle nearly ended in an unlikely play off spot. When you look past the League One wilderness years, we’ve generally been a top half Champ level mainstay for a long time. We just need to be positive, keep building and moving forward.
 



Fleck will be gone in summer - Rangers
 
Jon P said:
Fleck will be gone in summer - Rangers
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Rangers won't get near the SPL title for another 10 years and the Championship is bigger than the SPL in any case.

He will have suitors here offering far more than Rangers can afford to pay. Probably not Coventry City though, as apparently he is 'shite'.
 
I am slightly concerned next season could be tougher for us.

The possibility of losing our better players and without further investment, too much expectation on Wilder to replace them for relatively small fees by Championship standards.

Next season will see the need for strengthening in key areas just for parity in all likelihood with the age and contribution of some of our players.

End of the day I don't a crystal ball but the summer will be Interesting whatever the outcome at the season's end.
 
Of course we should worry. No point being on here otherwise.

If we do go up we'll worry about coming back down.
If we go up AND stay up we'd be worrying because we weren't in Europe.
If we don't go up we'll worry (constantly) about the manager and best players going (this will not so much be worry as a complete fucking frenzy come end of transfer windows).
If we were in the same position as the pigs we'd be worrying if there was another six year stint in the lower leagues (pub league, this forsaken league etc.) about to befall us.

It's ALL about the worry.
 
going up & staying in the championship has it pros & cons. we would get a ton of money about 190m its rumoured to be worth. you never say no because that would be every beneficial in every way.

but I know our fans some have already shown some of these aspects & I worry we would be like derby when they got promoted prematurely & got battered most weeks. wilder would come under big pressure some fans would say hes the problem. out of his depth & get him the sack around mid december despite trying to achieve impossible keeping a midtable championship squad in the premier league. then when he get relegated without wilder he's gone to a league rival, we are in worse position than we are now just with extra 100m
 
Harry's Game said:
All depends on how the ownership squabble resolves itself and even more crucially what happens with Wilder.

If we have similar levels of investment as this season and still have the same management team then we should be comfortable mid table next season even if we were to lose a couple like Fleck and JOC in the summer.

However similar levels of investment with a different manager and we could be in trouble.

Alternatively a moneybags China man could come in and then who knows.
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This
 
whch idiot would willingly go to scotland its the footballing equivalent e trying to pick up a hot babe in a fiuneral parlour
 
sheff_blade90 said:
going up & staying in the championship has it pros & cons. we would get a ton of money about 190m its rumoured to be worth. you never say no because that would be every beneficial in every way.

but I know our fans some have already shown some of these aspects & I worry we would be like derby when they got promoted prematurely & got battered most weeks. wilder would come under big pressure some fans would say hes the problem. out of his depth & get him the sack around mid december despite trying to achieve impossible keeping a midtable championship squad in the premier league. then when he get relegated without wilder he's gone to a league rival, we are in worse position than we are now just with extra 100m
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cant remember us getting battered by any prem clubs of late

last few years we won a few head to heads and ran spurs close recently

lost 1-0 at man utd and leicester in last couple of years with what we had



we are nobodys whipping boys
 
SelbyBlade said:
There are good reasons why we would want to get promoted this time.
1. The smaller clubs staying up are benefitting more and more from massive funds. Burnley, Watford, Swansea, Bournemouth etc. don't need big crowds to continue to be above us as the money is so big, each extra season they stay up, they pull further and further away.
2. It's likely Wolves, Fulham and either Cardiff / Villa will go up replaced by West Brom joined by two of Stoke, CP, Newcastle, Southampton, Huddersfield, West Ham or Swansea. None of the three coming down have Hull / Sunderland finance issues. Therefore more strong teams in the Championship. The Boing Boing Baggies tend to go between the two divisions, Newcastle pissed it last year and the others have decent accounts due to the +£100mil influx.
3. Some of the clubs not sorted this season could (I have to say could as two of them are the dirties and the pigs) sort themselves out next season making the division stronger. This also includes Derby, Forest, Middlesboro (now they have Pulis), Norwich and Ipswich.
4. Stronger lower clubs like Preston, Millwall, Bolton, Brentford and Wigan who will be on a high.
5. Ownership issues causing investment issues.

All making next season in the Championship harder to exit and the Prem harder to stay in the longer we are out of it.

On the other hand
1. We have Wilder and Knill.
2. Coutts will be available.
3. Phenomenal team spirit.
4. Some Astute signings after some of the bit part players leave.
5. Either Brooks playing more regularly or the money from Brooks (hopefully the former).

So I'm happy either way. We have had an amazing season and even flirted with promotion which could still happen regardless of how unlikely.
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Possibly as I don't fancy another decade or so pottering around in the Championship like Ipswich. True it is better than being in League 1 BUT I don't like the idea of clinging on in the Championship barely challenging for the top 6.

We don't want to be a club that is coasting and not really going anywhere. Wilder certainly does not want us to be like that.
 
Well it was never the aim this season so NO.

My concern is that if we don’t improve the squad (moneh he shouts !), bring in better players next season (3 strikers minimum required) and we say have another mid table finish, which I think we will end up with this season (pessimistic I know), then our better players might have their heads turned by these smaller richer clubs with a serious chance of the Premier League like Fulham.

All players surely look at who’s coming in to the club and the ambition of the club and also what the chances of promotion are with the squad. They might all be mates but a few will be thinking “for fuck sake we need to get rid of him”, we’ve all been there, even in very amateur 5-a-side leagues some of us play in.

At present the players are learning their time in the Championship with us, are obviously very comfortable and happy here and doing well. But, in the not too distant future, those who have performed very well and are considered ‘established’ will want to have a go at the next level and will then asses how likely it is to be achieved at the Blades. If that’s not looking likely, their eyes will wander
 
Still think we'll make the play-offs, and then it's the usual lottery no matter who the 4 teams are.
 



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