Ched future?

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Probably the last chance saloon for Ched on Saturday, if he doesn’t perform and we get knocked out I can’t see him featuring much in many League games this season.

Conversely if he finds his form and we get through not only would he then be in line for another game in the cup 5th round he may force his way back into contention for The League squad.

Probably a bigger game for Ched on Saturday than for anyone else at the club.
 
INTAKE BLADE said:
Ched is one striker who’s not scared to shoot outside the box. Hope it works out for him, and us.
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Not just that his technique is the best at the club and is equal to Quinn S or Brown, although having said that Clarke seems to occasionally generate some amazing shots from nothing but not for a few games now.
 
Entirely too much chat about Ched for my liking.

Lets let him prove he’s not a busted flush injury wise before we start talking him into a being like a 10 million quid signing.

We are kidding ourselves if we think he’s going to contribute anything major this season. He’s barely even going to be able to work his way back to fitness nevermind the 4 strikers justifiably ahead of him in the queue to play in the remaining games. And that’s even discounting the fact we are hopefully going to be competing at the sharp end of the division - do we really have room for a passenger getting up to fitness?
 
ekke287 said:
From what I can surmise from my Wendy mates, this is the main problem with Rhodes. He's a good goalscorer but offers nothing else, and since their style hasn't suited creating such opportunities his "talents" have somewhat been wasted.
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What I can summarise from watching him play is.......hes wank.
 
Ched Evans will shoot us to promotion, can I put crystal ball away now?
 
Humour kinda loses it's funniness when you have to explain it:
Tynemouth was making a fairly obvious and witty comparison between Ched Evans and Jordan Rhodes who reportedly cost £10 million. At no point was he saying Evans was worth 10 million it was a joke. Obvious and witty or do we have to use emoji's?
 
And the Ched Circus rolls on .....Let’s just see how he goes now he’s had the op , it’s no good over hyping him nor pulling him down it seems that both camps have their ammunition at the ready before he’s even kicked a ball !
The next few months for him will be career defining and he knows that & he could probably do without adding to the monkey already on his on his back.
 
It amazes me how some fans are so quick (have a strong desire) to write off Ched.

Fortunately for us we have an excellent medical team and excellent support/ motivation structure.

The bottom line is Ched is close to full fitness
And will be given the chance to impress in training with I suspect occasional subs appearances.
If he impresses during game time then I’d expect him to play a major role in the 1st team.

We know he had fantastic ability, he’s our best striker when fully firing
But off course (I agree with oers) it’s unlikely he’ll get near his league 1 form this season.
Anyhow I’m prepared to keep an open mind and give him a chance for this season.

The big question for me is will Wilder keep patience and target next season (with a proper pre season) under his belt for Ched Evans to finally show that he’s a top end striker. This season people can offer valid excuses for him but next season the pressure is on to deliver.
 
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He needs regular games now to get match fit & prepare for next season.

I would send him out on loan to a team lower down the league. Ideally to a team fighting the pigs for relegation!!!
 
Bladeinleeds said:
Entirely too much chat about Ched for my liking.
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Au contraire...Ched-chat (tm) has reduced significantly since they took away his own section...I do hope they bring it back when he bangs his first goal in...
 



No idea. I read yesterday that CW is talking about playing 2 no.10s. In which case how is he going to even get a look-in? Assuming the 2 tens is just an occasional tweak and we're mainly going to play two up front we still have Clarke (who could be due for a rest but is still likely to play a big part) Donaldson, Sharp and Wilson. And I still see Brooks as being a forward rather than a midfielder.
I can't see him starting many games this season. Of course, a couple of injuries could change that.
 
I should coco said:
Even some of the myopic boseyed clueless refs we have at the Lane will spot that. One of them will be made to change their shirt and the club will be reported.
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Yeah, we'd get kicked out of the league for that. Trevor would make sure of it.
 
Sheffsteel said:
It amazes me how some fans are so quick (have a strong desire) to write off Ched.

Fortunately for us we have an excellent medical team and excellent support/ motivation structure.

The bottom line is Ched is close to full fitness
And will be given the chance to impress in training with I suspect occasional subs appearances.
If he impresses during game time then I’d expect him to play a major role in the 1st team.

We know he had fantastic ability, he’s our best striker when fully firing
But off course (I agree with oers) it’s unlikely he’ll get near his league 1 form this season.
Anyhow I’m prepared to keep an open mind and give him a chance for this season.

The big question for me is will Wilder keep patience and target next season (with a proper pre season) under his belt for Ched Evans to finally show that he’s a top end striker. This season people can offer valid excuses for him but next season the pressure is on to deliver.
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Our best striker when fully fit? Give over. The lad had one good season in league one yonks ago. People still really base their judgement on him today from that one season?
 
Iceybabey said:
Our best striker when fully fit? Give over. The lad had one good season in league one yonks ago. People still really base their judgement on him today from that one season?
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I’m not saying he’s currently out best striker, that would be stupid.
I’m saying that if all our strikers returned to their best form then Ched is easily the best striker.
However of course expecting Ched to return to his previous form is a tall order and some say unrealistic.

Don’t see how anyone calm and neutral can deny that Ched is potentially the best striker at the club.

I still say that apart from Deane I’ve never seen a better striker at the Lane.
He was so much better than league 1 standard that he stood out like a sore thumb, he was better than Jordan Rhodes in his prime.
Agree though that his top class form was for only 6 months, the other 2.5 years he was generally average.

Some would rightly say that Ched is old, so can’t expect too much but we have plenty of older players and older strikers who are performing reallly well, best form of their lives.

Also some would rightly say his body is ruined and can’t handle top class football but one could argue that whilst in prison his body was being rested and he hasn’t got the wear and tear of an normal football career. Suppose we’ll see, anything could happen really.
 
Lmaobob said:
He's not shown enough yet for any of us to be convinced I don't think.

Even when he was fully fit before he went to prison, he wasn't good enough in the championship so why would he be all of a sudden better now he's not at that level of match fitness and sharpness anymore?

I want him to prove me wrong of course but everytime i've seen him, he's not been as good as any of the other strikers we have
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He was our top scorer in our last season in the championship :confused:
 
bladesmanluke said:
He was our top scorer in our last season in the championship :confused:
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Ched was decent/ average in the Championship.

I think the issue was “dissapointment”.
He came with a big reputation, a high transfer fee and high salary.

We expected big things and he definitely fell short for most of his 3 year spell at SUFC.

I had him down as one of our worse signings (poor value money wise) in living memory, then (surprise surprise) in the final year of his contract Ched got better and better and better. He was simply unplayable in those final few months.

However if we’d have gained promotion I’m sure he’d have left for a PL club. He was playing so well, his agent would have made huge demands which we couldn’t afford, think he would have outgrown us, moved on to bigger things playing regularly in the Wales team.
 
Sheffsteel said:
I’m not saying he’s currently out best striker, that would be stupid.
I’m saying that if all our strikers returned to their best form then Ched is easily the best striker.
However of course expecting Ched to return to his previous form is a tall order and some say unrealistic.

Don’t see how anyone calm and neutral can deny that Ched is potentially the best striker at the club.

I still say that apart from Deane I’ve never seen a better striker at the Lane.
He was so much better than league 1 standard that he stood out like a sore thumb, he was better than Jordan Rhodes in his prime.
Agree though that his top class form was for only 6 months, the other 2.5 years he was generally average.

Some would rightly say that Ched is old, so can’t expect too much but we have plenty of older players and older strikers who are performing reallly well, best form of their lives.

Also some would rightly say his body is ruined and can’t handle top class football but one could argue that whilst in prison his body was being rested and he hasn’t got the wear and tear of an normal football career. Suppose we’ll see, anything could happen really.
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The difference here is our other strikers have been capable of showing their best form recently - and have proved this. We’re asking evans to regain form from 6 years ago - with significant chunks of time out of the game and crippled by injury - when he’s had 18 months to try and and get back to his best.

Billy Sharp has barely played recently and still has more goals in half a season than ched managed in the league below.

When judging by ‘potential’ to hit their best form he’s 5th choice by a long way and needs something to change if there is any chance of him getting regular minutes.

Unfortunately a ched from 7 years ago just wont happen - certainly not this season. Hope he proves me wrong and I would be delighted if he did
 
If he had been allowed to get on with his career when he should have been able to he would've been flying by now. He wasn't even 26. It's a disgrace how he was prevented from doing so.

Those 2 extra years it took for him to get back into the game probably killed off any chance he had of getting back to the same level.

He can still be a good player, but a different player.

Wilder's "he's going to be a big player for us" comment is encouraging because he said exactly the same thing about Clarke about a year ago. Look what happened there.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Ched was decent/ average in the Championship.

I think the issue was “dissapointment”.
He came with a big reputation, a high transfer fee and high salary.

We expected big things and he definitely fell short for most of his 3 year spell at SUFC.

I had him down as one of our worse signings (poor value money wise) in living memory, then (surprise surprise) in the final year of his contract Ched got better and better and better. He was simply unplayable in those final few months.

However if we’d have gained promotion I’m sure he’d have left for a PL club. He was playing so well, his agent would have made huge demands which we couldn’t afford, think he would have outgrown us, moved on to bigger things playing regularly in the Wales team.
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He was 21 though. By time he left at 24 he’d developed into a top striker and would only have gotten even better. You say he was poor value for money, but if he hadn’t got sent down, the way he was going we’d probably have sold him on for a fortune.
 
bladesmanluke said:
He was 21 though. By time he left at 24 he’d developed into a top striker and would only have gotten even better. You say he was poor value for money, but if he hadn’t got sent down, the way he was going we’d probably have sold him on for a fortune.
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If he hadn’t had the charge on him in preseason he would have been sold for a fraction of what we paid for him. Had he not been sent down there is no guarantee what would have happened next – his contract was up, and he might have headed to a Championship club on a Bosman. Whichever way you look at it, we did not get value from the £3m paid for him. For that sort of cash you’d have expected a goals return that would have made it tough for us to be relegated in the first place.
 



LoughboroBlade said:
If he hadn’t had the charge on him in preseason he would have been sold for a fraction of what we paid for him. Had he not been sent down there is no guarantee what would have happened next – his contract was up, and he might have headed to a Championship club on a Bosman. Whichever way you look at it, we did not get value from the £3m paid for him. For that sort of cash you’d have expected a goals return that would have made it tough for us to be relegated in the first place.
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If he’d have had better support in the season we went down he’d have scored a lot more. We were shit all over the park and Ched/Williamson were often the only spark. I maintain he was our top scorer and in my opinion, best player of a very bad bunch that season. Granted his first season he didn’t hit it off, but as I said, he was 21.
 
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