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Good tackle in my opinion.

However in the prem the ref would have been surrounded by High profile foreign players and The ref would have been browbeaten into producing a card, probably red.
 
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Flecks was late,
No it wasn't he got the ball.

Fleck tackled the guy with the ball at his feet.
No he didn't, they both went for a loose ball Fleck got it then their player.

I’m amazed that people can’t see why Fleck’s was a red and that this one is play on.
I can’t believe the amount of people saying that’s Fleck’s tackle deserved a red card. That decision was an absolute travesty.

These 2 sit together well. I've watched Fleck's over and over and if that's a red then the rules should be applied uniformly throughout the game and we'll start seeing games with 6 or more players dismissed.
 
I think it was a stupid comment by Chris Wilder to be honest, it was hardly Bobby Mooresqu on Pèle.


Stands back
 
Good tackle in my opinion.

However in the prem the ref would have been surrounded by High profile foreign players and The ref would have been browbeaten into producing a card, probably red.

And they would have been waving an imaginary red card with one hand and wagging their index finger with the other (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean). Fucking pathetic, should be a yellow for that for ungentlemanly conduct, it's still in the rule book.
 
No it wasn't he got the ball.


No he didn't, they both went for a loose ball Fleck got it then their player.




These 2 sit together well. I've watched Fleck's over and over and if that's a red then the rules should be applied uniformly throughout the game and we'll start seeing games with 6 or more players dismissed.

The two tackles are not comparable. Fleck is studs up, two footed, off the ground and he cracks the guy on the ankle. Slater is low, in control and with the side of his foot.

The Slater tackle is what you’re meant to do and Fleck should know better.
 
In fairness to the Ipswich lad he didn't make a meal of it, but if he had maybe would of changed the ref's decision.
 
Great tackle, but lets hope the `cemented` comment doesn`t encourage Regan to steam in too much.

Seen enough of him over the past couple of years to know tackling is a big part of his game, unfortunately you have to get it spot on these days, or suffer the consequence.

Hopefully with experience Regan will become street smart when it comes to his tackling,I can remember 3 of his similar to this one,1st time he got injured in the last few minutes in the u18 final,2nd was this season,when he got sent off v Millwall in the u23s,got it spot on with this beauty

Nice one Regan
 
I am so used to watching players rolling round for ages and feigning injury I was amazed at how quickly the lad got up, you feel like saying well done son for not cheating and getting a player in trouble, that In itself seems how much the game has changed, for the worse, nevertheless he looked young a day thinks it normal to roll around for an hour
 
A red card every day of the week against a 'top' PL side. Probably a yellow against a beige PL side such as Stoke, WBA or Huddersfield.

Having seen Leroy Fer's red card this weekend then anything is possible in the future. It's conceivable that you could be red carded for even thinking about a tackle.
Would be interesting to know what exactly Fer was sent off for, because part of me feels that justice was done. He didn't even pretend to tackle the player, because the ball was several feet away, so it could be seen as deliberately kicking an opponent. If he had just been punched and retaliated with that kick (gentle as it was), he would have been off for certain. A 15 minute sin-bin would be useful for such an offence.
 
The Ipswich player also got straight up and showed some bottle rather than rolling round and round on floor like Brizza’s Korey Smith
 
Did Fleck's studs hit the player?
Yes.
Did Slater's studs hit the player?
No.
 



Did Fleck's studs hit the player?
Yes.
Did Slater's studs hit the player?
No.

John Fleck - Both feet off the ground "out of control" he also hit him at shin height

Regan Slater - From the camera view on the Slater one, he took the ball, then the man and it was a proper sliding tackle, meaning he didn't leave the ground and therefore didn't hit the player at shin height
 
Only one thing on his mind, he never takes his eye off the ball at any stage and wins it cleanly with both feet on the ground in full control of what was happening.
Fleck never intended to play the man and was only after winning the ball was just unfortunate that it was a bad touch and he ended up going over the top of the ball due to his momentum.
One second either way and we’re talking about a great challenge by Fleck and a red card for Slater due to his inexperience and desire to try and impress....fine margins but that said great challenge that 18 & 23 watches will have seen happen numerous times when Slater plays.....Reminds me a little of a certain Roy Keane but with quicker feet!!
 
Totally opposite view to me ,how old are you just out of interest ,just wondered if its a generation thing.

I don't agree that it should be a foul, however I could see how some refs would consider this a foul nowadays. This is how I was taught to tackle but I imagine that it's not the same for youngsters playing now.
 
The difference is that Fleck landed studs first above the guy's ankle.

Hope that helps.
 
Ball then man. When I played football (3rd year of Silverdale - Barry Paper as PE teacher) this is exactly what I was taught. I never quite managed it though.....

Surprising. Did Mr Paper not ask you to write it down?
 
I'm 37, grew up on Dinosaur Dave's side so don't get me wrong I appreciate a good cruncher like the rest of us, but refs today are giving cards for anything slightly resembling a slide-tackle. I think Slater NOT getting a card for was the exception not the norm these days.

I remember a career-threatening tackle by Sordell at Burton didn't even merit a yellow card...
 
Owlstalk has reminded me. The benchmark for bad challenges. Hirst on Cowan from '92. 14 mins in. Got a booking & scored the equaliser in the 84min.

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I don't agree that it should be a foul, however I could see how some refs would consider this a foul nowadays. This is how I was taught to tackle but I imagine that it's not the same for youngsters playing now.

  • Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
  • Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
  • Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off
 

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