They're all a set of wankers at the Lane

[Hamburg Blade]

So thinking someone has got something wrong and pointing that out (with no offensive language or anything that could in any way be construed as abusive) is now classed as "taking umbridge"?

The original post of mine to which you responded was actually a reply to someone else's post. I was in broad agreement with what another poster had written and posted that to him. I don't think there was any need to further explain anything. We were in agreement!

You got your knickers in a twist because I challenged what you were saying in the post I replied to. Deny it all you want.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

The heart has never been ripped out of the club. Because not everyone fucked off from watching us when we were at our lowest ebb.

I'll certainly go with that. (My original comment said "team", not "club")

 

[Tezza1889]

Deane and fyortoft all day long...we’d be wearing FA cup tattoos fr donks right now

 

[oldblade]

You got your knickers in a twist because I challenged what you were saying in the post I replied to. Deny it all you want.

Obviously I will deny it, because it isn't true.

I am the one who is (allegedly) "pissy" and got my "knickers in a twist" and yet it is not me resorting to insulting terms like that.

 

[blade too long]

YOU were claiming that, not me


No, I didn't. Not once.

No player sale is inevitable


Could you make a more sweeping generalisation?


I don't give a fuck about Boro


I don't give a fuck about Scunthorpe fans


Nope, YOU were saying that


So what? Another straw man. A player not winning something somewhere else has nothing at all to do with how important they were to us before we sold them.
Fucking hell, blade too long , as far as coherent arguments go, yours is about as straight as a bloke in a latex gimp suit on a gay pride float.

Well you keep arguing we are a selling club and just ignore the undeniable fact that all clubs are selling clubs .ok so you don't care who Boro scunny or Liverpool sell .but it's only so you can moan that we do something every other club does. You accuse me of sweeping statements when you say we are a selling club . Was there ever a more sweeping judgement based on being myopic to what goes on throughout the game
Clubs .all of them sell players . We sell over 50 years no more than most.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Well you keep arguing we are a selling club and just ignore the undeniable fact that all clubs are selling clubs .ok so you don't care who Boro scunny or Liverpool sell .but it's only so you can moan that we do something every other club does. You accuse me of sweeping statements when you say we are a selling club . Was there ever a more sweeping judgement based on being myopic to what goes on throughout the game
Clubs .all of them sell players . We sell over 50 years no more than most.

No, I have not argued that we are a selling club. YOU have argued that we are a selling club. Y O U. You explained why you think we are. You just said it again - "all clubs are selling clubs" - I haven't been arguing that. I find it bizarre that your main point is that we are a selling club, but you're having a go at me for claiming we are a selling club, when that has not been my point in this thread at all.
This is a thread about the worst decision in 50 years, a handful of what the OP thinks are bad decisions have been listed. I chose one where we sold a couple of our best players. You went off at a tangent like a bull in a china shop. I don't think you have taken the time to read the posts you are responding to.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No, I have not argued that we are a selling club. YOU have argued that we are a selling club. Y O U. You explained why you think we are. You just said it again - "all clubs are selling clubs" - I haven't been arguing that. I find it bizarre that your main point is that we are a selling club, but you're having a go at me for claiming we are a selling club, when that has not been my point in this thread at all.
This is a thread about the worst decision in 50 years, a handful of what the OP thinks are bad decisions have been listed. I chose one where we sold a couple of our best players. You went off at a tangent like a bull in a china shop. I don't think you have taken the time to read the posts you are responding to.

Are you new to BTL Hamburg?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Are you new to BTL Hamburg?

He's like a cuddly teddy bear I just can't put down.

 

[Davie Blade]

Maradona
Thread and vote over

Ridiculous to talk of sales Deane, Currie, etc.
We missed out on getting the highest ever transfer fee in the world; something along the lines of £5 million.
At the time that would have easily bought 4 of the best players in the English league for that and still had change to pay off the debt on the BL stand.
We would need about billion to buy De Bruyne, Hazard, Kane and Sterling now.





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[Sean Thornton]

Maradona
Thread and vote over

Ridiculous to talk of sales Deane, Currie, etc.
We missed out on getting the highest ever transfer fee in the world; something along the lines of £5 million.
At the time that would have easily bought 4 of the best players in the English league for that and still had change to pay off the debt on the BL stand.
We would need about billion to buy De Bruyne, Hazard, Kane and Sterling now.





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Highly unlikely. Marathons didn't go to Boca until around 20 months after Sabella had left for Leeds. We would have sold him long before that to a first division team, for more than we got from Leeds, but nowhere near millions. We were a third division side and even promoted couldn't have kept him.

Jones/Birchenall or Robson. Nothing else comes close imo.

 

[Terry Poole]

We are a meek club in the transfer market. We have a genius manager and have a great chance to get in the play offs and humiliate the pigs in January.

Giving money to Wilder is a no brainer - he knows a quality player with the right attitude and buys players on the up. it's an investment that will return value on the balance sheet.

He's not a mug like the chairman and his agent advisers at the sty who will spunk money on mercenaries.

Just give him the money.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

We are a meek club in the transfer market. We have a genius manager and have a great chance to get in the play offs and humiliate the pigs in January.

Giving money to Wilder is a no brainer - he knows a quality player with the right attitude and buys players on the up. it's an investment that will return value on the balance sheet.

He's not a mug like the chairman and his agent advisers at the sty who will spunk money on mercenaries.

Just give him the money.

Wrong thread?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Highly unlikely. Marathons didn't go to Boca until around 20 months after Sabella had left for Leeds. We would have sold him long before that to a first division team, for more than we got from Leeds, but nowhere near millions. We were a third division side and even promoted couldn't have kept him.

Jones/Birchenall or Robson. Nothing else comes close imo.

Appointing Robson turned out very badly in the end, but I'm undecided just how many years you can attribute to him after he left. People blame him for the next ten years, but can you really? There has to be a point where you say there's been enough opportunity and time to have sorted out any mess he left.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Appointing Robson turned out very badly in the end, but I'm undecided just how many years you can attribute to him after he left. People blame him for the next ten years, but can you really? There has to be a point where you say there's been enough opportunity and time to have sorted out any mess he left.

Not blaming Robson for ten ten years but his disastrous appointment coupled with his shocking management of a team that should have battling for promotion was something that affected us greatly, including spunking McCabes money, which has had an ongoing effect .

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Not blaming Robson for ten ten years but his disastrous appointment coupled with his shocking management of a team that should have battling for promotion was something that affected us greatly, including spunking McCabes money, which has had an ongoing effect .

Not denying it was a big mistake, though I was giving him more time than most people, I just can't decide how much blame can be attached to him. If we can really say that promotion at the first attempt was a given with any decent manager, then we can heap a lot on him, but is that really the case? I don't know and from abroad it's always hard to properly judge a team's potential.

 

[Lt. J Dangle]

Ignoring the bullet holes in the board's feet over the last 50 years for a moment, the best decision was sacking the 'bored' in May 2016

 

[tomtheblade]

Not denying it was a big mistake, though I was giving him more time than most people, I just can't decide how much blame can be attached to him. If we can really say that promotion at the first attempt was a given with any decent manager, then we can heap a lot on him, but is that really the case? I don't know and from abroad it's always hard to properly judge a team's potential.

Well in this case we're actually blamimg the board more than Robson himself.

Speaking for myself, I remember groaning with disappointment when he was given the job, thats how sure I was he was an awful pick. It's often the case that with hindsight you look back and can spot bad decisions (Micky Adams springs to mind), but this really was a case of knowing it was a bad idea at the time.

The reason why this had a long term affect, in my opinion, is that subsequent decisions which took us down a self-destructive path actually seemed rational relative to this first one. Hiring Blackwell would not normally seem a good idea, but after the disaster that is Robson, the reasons for getting him in made sense. And so on.

I think we've put it all to bed now, and like i said we should look forward, but i hope the board and mccabe dont forget about that particular decision and where it took us.

 

[Silent Blade]

Currie stayed 2 seasons longer than most expected

I agree. I remember my dad writing to me saying that he had met TC at a supporters function just after the start of the 1974-75 season and TC was telling him that he had been felt let down by the directors and was looking to leave us. My dad wasnt sure of the reason. The papers didnt report his unhappiness at the club. Just after he scored that goal against West Ham in March 1975 my dad was telling a few BLUT regulars that TC was going to leave but they didnt believe him. Papers were reporting his transfer requests being turned down a few times during the 1975-76 season. It does look like the reason was that the directors had broken their promise on buying new players when he signed the contract in summer 1973 and then a year later we sold his friend Salmons

 

[Bert]

He's not a mug like the chairman

Are you talking about the multi millionaire McCabe who started out with nothing? Some mug.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Well in this case we're actually blamimg the board more than Robson himself.

Speaking for myself, I remember groaning with disappointment when he was given the job, thats how sure I was he was an awful pick. It's often the case that with hindsight you look back and can spot bad decisions (Micky Adams springs to mind), but this really was a case of knowing it was a bad idea at the time.

The reason why this had a long term affect, in my opinion, is that subsequent decisions which took us down a self-destructive path actually seemed rational relative to this first one. Hiring Blackwell would not normally seem a good idea, but after the disaster that is Robson, the reasons for getting him in made sense. And so on.

I think we've put it all to bed now, and like i said we should look forward, but i hope the board and mccabe dont forget about that particular decision and where it took us.

I was slow to condemn Robson. I could see what McCabe was trying to do. After the Warnock era he wanted to raise the profile of the club, change to style of football, bring in some "name" footballers and banish the reputation of hoofing it and a manager who wound up refs and interviewers alike. Most of the off-pitch stuff was working, I never imagined he could make such a mess of the football and the squad.
It's a pity we compounded it with managers who were out of their depth. I'm sure it could have been turned around a lot quicker.

 

[Deleted member 875]

Nothing will ever match the stupidity of hiring Bryan Robson and letting him loose with a transfer kitty and wage bill that was unprecedented at the time.

I said when was appointed that he would set us back 10 years, and I wasn’t far wrong.

The second most stupid thing board have done in my living memory was letting that imbecile Terry Robinson run the club for a couple of years.

 

[Pinchy]

Are you talking about the multi millionaire McCabe who started out with nothing? Some mug.

The Agenda season is upon us, Bert. It will get a lot dafter than that...

 

[Sean Thornton]

Nothing will ever match the stupidity of hiring Bryan Robson and letting him loose with a transfer kitty and wage bill that was unprecedented at the time.

I said when was appointed that he would set us back 10 years, and I wasn’t far wrong.

The second most stupid thing board have done in my living memory was letting that imbecile Terry Robinson run the club for a couple of years.

The Robson appointment occurred due to Turry being let loose with the cheque book.

Robinson was one of these "football men" some keep crying out for.

 

[Terry Poole]

Are you talking about the multi millionaire McCabe who started out with nothing? Some mug.

Hello Bert, I was referring to chansiri at the sty. McCabe is no mug.

 

[Bert]

The Agenda season is upon us, Bert. It will get a lot dafter than that...

Indeed, the McCabe haters will be oiling their keyboards ready for January 2nd when we still haven't signed anybody.

 

[I should coco]

Jones/Birchenall or Robson. Nothing else comes close imo.

Let me help you out there. The answer is Mogadon Man.

As eloquently set out above, McCabes's plan to completely overhaul the club failed due to appointing a serial proven loser under the guidance of 'football man' Robinson. For those unaware of the situation, Big Tel (or 'Turri') got his spurs at that giant of world football; Bury.

To do no justice at all to our greatest ever leader, 'Never in the field of football has so much been spunked by so inept with so little success'.

 

[I should coco]

The Agenda season is upon us, Bert. It will get a lot dafter than that...

Amongst the few that don't have you on ignore. someone will pick up on this and splash it all over Twatter.

"FFS McCabe spend some of the semi final muneh on that Mauricio Agenda. Best player we never had"

 

[blade too long]

I agree. I remember my dad writing to me saying that he had met TC at a supporters function just after the start of the 1974-75 season and TC was telling him that he had been felt let down by the directors and was looking to leave us. My dad wasnt sure of the reason. The papers didnt report his unhappiness at the club. Just after he scored that goal against West Ham in March 1975 my dad was telling a few BLUT regulars that TC was going to leave but they didnt believe him. Papers were reporting his transfer requests being turned down a few times during the 1975-76 season. It does look like the reason was that the directors had broken their promise on buying new players when he signed the contract in summer 1973 and then a year later we sold his friend Salmons

personally missed Salmons a lot , hard working grafter in midfield he did most of Curries dirty work,
Could have stayed up with players like him

 

[Silent Blade]

personally missed Salmons a lot , hard working grafter in midfield he did most of Curries dirty work,
Could have stayed up with players like him

It was a surprise we finished in 6th place in the season after Salmons have left but I agree with you we missed him in the 1975-76 season

 

[Hamburg Blade]

The second most stupid thing board have done in my living memory was letting that imbecile Terry Robinson run the club for a couple of years.

I'd almost forgotten about him. What a complete knob he was.