Middlesboro fans getting nervy already?

[granata-korps]

Got to say fella, it's nice to have a well balanced visitor on here again. We'vehad a few but more recently we've had some real dicks. I've never met a boro fan I've found to be Billy big bollocks so see you guys much the same as most of us blades. The only boro fans I wasn't partial to were the 20 odd who chased me and my mate round the streets around ayrsome park in the 80s when we arrived late.

Don't take it personal I believe it happened quiet a lot back then, being a home fan I never noticed much.
Not condoning 80 casual culture by the way never that way inclined myself.

 

[ShorehamRevolution]

I'd be chuffed with a point against Boro tbh, let's not get lary - I'm enjoying underdog status for now. It's nice to get a bit of respect though.

Good post, we've got calm down a bit, all of us seem to be getting a little over excited, if still take 4th bottom and still will come May.

 

[Bladesman]

Homer is a Boro fan.

 

[steve26272]

what their fans think is fairly irrelevant, the manager will be telling their players your premier league lads, they are div1 players, go out and smash them.
that could be a blessing in disguise
but, they are told they live in the shadow of their 'bigger' neighbours, (for Sunderland & Newcastle read pigs and weeds) so kinda feel an affinity

 

[oldblade]

Yes we are smaller than the ugly sisters, not pygmies but smaller yes. But in no way are we a small club, I for one don't look down on you as a club,I prefer you to the owls and see us as very similar clubs. A few things by way of comparison.
top average crowd utd 35k plus Boro 36k plus
top flight seasons utd 60 Boro 61
lower tiers utd 12 Boro 2
champions utd 1 Boro 0 Note won in the 1800's before boro were even in the league
Fa cups utd 4 Boro 0 again the latest of which is about 75 years ago. Proud history
yes relevant today possibly not. I could argue a league cup win and
European final since the turn of the century might be of greater
significance.
sub 10k averages utd 7 Boro 7
all time average utd about 18 k plus ? Boro about 20k
to sum up we could almost be twins, it is always said that we have no fans, the facts don't bare this out. I'll concede
our crowds do fall when we ain't doing well, but most other clubs do too. We may be a little more fickle than some,
but not dramatically so.

Point of order, and a little pedantic maybe, but our club sources suggest we have had only had 6 sub 10,000 league attendance averages and 5 of those were in the 19th century. So if our league championship and FA Cups are no longer relevant I would suggest neither are 19th century average attendances!

I assume you got your information from EFS Attendances (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm). I believe that many of the very old attendance figures were estimated, and so the figures quoted for the end of season averages are not likely to be accurate.

Anyway, since 1900 we have only had one end of season average (league) attendance below 10,000. That was in 1986-7 season and we were only 8 short of reaching that figure.

If EFS are to be believed, you had 3 post World War 2 sub 10,000 season averages. As with us, these occurred in the 1980s. It doesn't really surprise me that both clubs have had their lowest post war attendances during that decade because football attendances in general were very low at that time.

Incidentally, I see your lowest average was 5,135 in 1984-5. That seems to be a very low average even for that time, especially when taking into account you were still a second tier side. Was there any particular reason for that other than the very high unemployment in the area at that time?

 

[Pinchy]

If this forum is anything to go by then we are getting more and more pig like

Every thread involving a fan from another club descends into porktalk like boasting and belittling of everyone else

I can't stand it and it's not what we have always been about

I can't stand sycophantic cap-doffing and Bladey Inferiority Complex. Shamefully, that is what we're all about.

I don't know how often I need to repeat this but I won't have the way I express myself conditioned by what the Pigs do, say or think. I don't give them sole user rights to ordinary English words, either.

There's a thin line between boasting and belittling and taking some pride in your own club. I will always do the latter and don't give a fuck whether it's called pig-like, because unlike the vast majority on here, I take not the slightest interest in Porktalk or any other Pig outlet,

Similarly I'm not about to bow and scrape obsequiously to other clubs and fans. Again, sadly, that's the "ever so 'umble" Bladesfans' Way.



We're massive. Don't bother. No fucks given.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Keep an eye on yer kids....

 

[granata-korps]

Point of order, and a little pedantic maybe, but our club sources suggest we have had only had 6 sub 10,000 league attendance averages and 5 of those were in the 19th century. So if our league championship and FA Cups are no longer relevant I would suggest neither are 19th century average attendances!

I assume you got your information from EFS Attendances (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm). I believe that many of the very old attendance figures were estimated, and so the figures quoted for the end of season averages are not likely to be accurate.

Anyway, since 1900 we have only had one end of season average (league) attendance below 10,000. That was in 1986-7 season and we were only 8 short of reaching that figure.

If EFS are to be believed, you had 3 post World War 2 sub 10,000 season averages. As with us, these occurred in the 1980s. It doesn't really surprise me that both clubs have had their lowest post war attendances during that decade because football attendances in general were very low at that time.

Incidentally, I see your lowest average was 5,135 in 1984-5. That seems to be a very low average even for that time, especially when taking into account you were still a second tier side. Was there any particular reason for that other than the very high unemployment in the area at that time?

Point taken, but it works both ways 3 out of our 7 are the 1st 3 seasons in league football at the turn of the century and another was 1915, also a long time ago and people had something else sorta on their minds.
As to why our crowds in the 80's were so low, I don't have the definitive answer. The club was dying on it's feet. The players
were pub standard we were on our way to the 3rd div for only the 2nd time in our history. Football hooliganism, it kept
ordinary folk from going, and yes the fickle factor. To compare the 3 big NE clubs, when things are not going well the fans of those two still turn up in decent numbers but protest all over the shop. we on the other just say sod that for a game of soldiers and stop going, their isn't a decant protest in us. I was still going in those days and it had one advantage. I could stay in the Yellow Rose till 5 to 3 amble to the Holgate and still be on the terrace in time for kick off. However given the standard of football that may have been a disadvantage.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Point of order, and a little pedantic maybe, but our club sources suggest we have had only had 6 sub 10,000 league attendance averages and 5 of those were in the 19th century. So if our league championship and FA Cups are no longer relevant I would suggest neither are 19th century average attendances!

I assume you got your information from EFS Attendances (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm). I believe that many of the very old attendance figures were estimated, and so the figures quoted for the end of season averages are not likely to be accurate.

Anyway, since 1900 we have only had one end of season average (league) attendance below 10,000. That was in 1986-7 season and we were only 8 short of reaching that figure.

If EFS are to be believed, you had 3 post World War 2 sub 10,000 season averages. As with us, these occurred in the 1980s. It doesn't really surprise me that both clubs have had their lowest post war attendances during that decade because football attendances in general were very low at that time.

Incidentally, I see your lowest average was 5,135 in 1984-5. That seems to be a very low average even for that time, especially when taking into account you were still a second tier side. Was there any particular reason for that other than the very high unemployment in the area at that time?

They were busy with their kids?

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

There are some big clubs in this division and not all of them can do well. I've picked Boro to finish top at the end of the season, but some of these big clubs that now spend oodles of cash on players cannot all do well. Some will go into meltdown and I reckon some are up for a big crash as the reality of spending big and not having "true" finances in place to compensate will hit home.

We could end up with big clubs getting a round of L1 one status again.

UTB

I think most of this is, like there is with the majority of fans on this site too, that just because a player costs a lot of money then they think they are guaranteed success.
You don't have to spend big, just wisely and build a team. They have a team of players with Premier league experience but not quality, otherwise they would still be there, so they're where they belong in the Championship. Exactly the same as us, we proved ourselves way too good for div 1 and are now in the Championship.
Time will now show where these 2 teams true levels are

 

[grafikhaus]

First off, performance is key. How we take the game to them will be the most important part. A draw is a good result and win would be great.

I'd take a point already.

Never understood this 'I'd take a point now' opinion. Until we see how the game pans out, we don't know. If we're 2-0 up with five minutes left and it ends at 2-2, would you still take a point? I'm sure CW won't be telling the lads to 'go for a point'.

 

[Caveblade]

I think most of this is, like there is with the majority of fans on this site too, that just because a player costs a lot of money then they think they are guaranteed success.
You don't have to spend big, just wisely and build a team. They have a team of players with Premier league experience but not quality, otherwise they would still be there, so they're where they belong in the Championship. Exactly the same as us, we proved ourselves way too good for div 1 and are now in the Championship.
Time will now show where these 2 teams true levels are

I couldn't agree more. Big names and big fees don't get you promoted. A good example is Villa, who many are saying will be a force this season because of the names they have signed. My prediction, they will carry on where they left off last season, along with the Rosie Redknapps down the road and be bang average.

Boro may have spent big, but it is about team, ability and tactics. We should not approach any game doffing our caps and hoping for a draw just because they used to be in the prem and as has been said elsewhere I am sure CW won't be.

 

[Wards]

Never understood this 'I'd take a point now' opinion. Until we see how the game pans out, we don't know. If we're 2-0 up with five minutes left and it ends at 2-2, would you still take a point? I'm sure CW won't be telling the lads to 'go for a point'.

The key bit you're missing is 'now' - we're not currently 2-0 up.

 

[SteveBlade]

Point taken, but it works both ways 3 out of our 7 are the 1st 3 seasons in league football at the turn of the century and another was 1915, also a long time ago and people had something else sorta on their minds.
As to why our crowds in the 80's were so low, I don't have the definitive answer. The club was dying on it's feet. The players
were pub standard we were on our way to the 3rd div for only the 2nd time in our history. Football hooliganism, it kept
ordinary folk from going, and yes the fickle factor. To compare the 3 big NE clubs, when things are not going well the fans of those two still turn up in decent numbers but protest all over the shop. we on the other just say sod that for a game of soldiers and stop going, their isn't a decant protest in us. I was still going in those days and it had one advantage. I could stay in the Yellow Rose till 5 to 3 amble to the Holgate and still be on the terrace in time for kick off. However given the standard of football that may have been a disadvantage.

Quality posts mate.

Always had a soft spot for Middlesbrough.

 

[granata-korps]

Quality posts mate.

Always had a soft spot for Middlesbrough.

cheers, as mentioned I have a soft spot for the blades, mainly due to a pleasant afternoon sesh spent in a pub near
the lane in the company of a Rotherham based blade. Drunk as a skunk ended up on the kop with him. In the 80's
this could have ended in tears, but luckily (for me) it didn't.