Leon Clarke

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I thought we had an unexpected £7m come our way this summer, add to the budget set for this season should get us a CF better than we already have. That's if the club will spend it.
I hear that lad Neymar is looking for a move
 



Just to even things up I'll disagree too. ;)

You're assuming that if we play two up front one of them has to play in a support role, as if one of them has to create all the chances for the other. Seeing as most of the "assists" come from midfield, then it all depends on which of the front two get on the end of them. In addition to this, after the midfielders, Billy was the highest "assister" last season. No reason why Billy and Ched can't be dynamite next season if the latter rediscovers his form. Think Deane & Agana.

OK, fair enough, you got me there.

Agree we were creative last season. Our 2 big weapons was

Attacking fullbacks whipping in crosses, although the quality of the crossing was a bit inconsistent, maybe our new fullbacks Baldock and Stevens might prove to be bigger stars/ successes than we think?

Also our midfield used to probe and pull the defences apart that tried to press making them tired. Although many teams used tactics of letting us have the ball and just parking the bus on the edge of the area and we struggled against this when denied space. That's where Hanson proved a great tactical option because we then went long ball and it surprisingly caused danger.
 

I don't see that. Billy dropped a division and supposedly took a pay cut to come back to his club (that had sold him twice).
If Ched gets an unlikely 25 goals, Billy will be the first to buy the Peroni at the end of the season.

He may be selfish in front of goal, but that ends on the pitch.

I think Billy has had to work hard to curb his temperament and I really respect him for the job he did last season as Captain. There are occasions though when he gives me the impression that it's all about him and he doesn't really want anyone to tread on his toes or take his glory. There was an incident (can't remember now whether it was Bradford or Chesterfield away) when Basham claimed a goal that Billy thought was his. The players ran from the goal to the corner flag to celebrate - but Billy was really annoyed that Basham had taken the credit for it and he pushed him in the chest aggressively. In the post-match interview, Basham commented, "it can't all be about the Billy Sharp show". So, there was some tension there and evidence that Billy likes being Top Dog. If Evans gets anywhere near fit and gets in the team I think he would be an alternative to Billy, not a partner.
 
I think that's the best assessment of our strikers that anyone has ever posted on here. Spot on to a tee about Clarke and Sharp imo. Be interested how you view Lavery? And the potential of Brooks?

I like both but I have some slight doubts as to whether Lavery can cut it at this level. I think Brooks will be a sensation if he gets regular game time.

I think Laverys basically a winger who shows scoring ability in front of goal. Think...the Cristiano Ronaldo role (I wish).
But the jury is still out with Lavery, he's still an experiment really trying to find himself.
Definitely has potential to be a very poor man Cristiano but how long can you keep saying 'he's young with potential'.
I think Laverys career will be down to how Wilder and Knill find the perfect role for him because at the moment he's not good enough to be a winger and not good enough to be a striker but he's not far away.

Haven't seen enough of Brooks and I reserve judgement.
He looks very talented but that means nothing.
Also let's look at the evidence, he's recently played really well, but that at under 19 (almost school boy level) and pre season friendlies against lower league opposition when their players are just trying to find fitness.
Basically Brooks has done nothing yet and we've seen plenty of examples where talented players don't achieve.
 
He looks very talented but that means nothing.
Also let's look at the evidence, he's recently played really well, but that at under 19 (almost school boy level) and pre season friendlies against lower league opposition when their players are just trying to find fitness.
Basically Brooks has done nothing yet and we've seen plenty of examples where talented players don't achieve.

Heretic!

You can't say that. There are plenty on here that want to make him our highest paid player ('£10k per week', '£20k per week', 'whatever it takes').

The new wonder Pele is the best player the world has ever seen. If we then find out he isn't quite all that and sell him for a few million, it will give the anti-McCabes ammunition for years to come.
 
That was definitely up there but I loved how easy he made the one against Chesterfield look

yes he did, as he did with most of his finishes.

Take Northampton - beat the GK with ease.
PV away - great timing & contact
Chezzie - great placement using the defender in front as a shield
Header at MK - beat defender with ease
Bradford - both goals, great placement with either foot.

There are some that criticise Leon, and they might be justified. My point is, given chances, his finishing (not his attitude/temprement/laziness) - his finishing, is excellent. It's up to the management to sort out his deficiencies.

UTB
 
He ticks so many boxes. He's big and physical and can score goals. He's proven at league one level. Let's hope he can perform in Championship.
 
He ticks so many boxes. He's big and physical and can score goals. He's proven at league one level. Let's hope he can perform in Championship.

Indeed - and that is the point with the majority of our players - they do tick boxes and a lot of that is down to the management team.

CW & AK have sorted a lot of them out in many ways - they all deserve a chance in the Championship. Some may prove better than others but the value of a "team/squad" culture was amply demonstrated by what our management team did last season.

UTB
 
I'm a big Leon fan,he was great in the run in once he got fit...it's just a question of whether he can play 90 minutes week in week out and stay clear of injuries,although I think all the strikers will play their part....Another thing with Leon,he seems to be able to play and link up with whoever is playing alongside him,certainly with Sharp and Lavery,although many said him and Billy couldn't play together.
 
I'm a big Leon fan,he was great in the run in once he got fit...it's just a question of whether he can play 90 minutes week in week out and stay clear of injuries,although I think all the strikers will play their part....Another thing with Leon,he seems to be able to play and link up with whoever is playing alongside him,certainly with Sharp and Lavery,although many said him and Billy couldn't play together.

To be honest he doesn't need to play 90 minutes, if he tires on 60-70 mins we can bring on some extra pace in Lavery or go long to Hanson, or bring an attacking midfielder on such as Brooks etc. We have options this year which is the most positive.
 
I think that's the best assessment of our strikers that anyone has ever posted on here. Spot on to a tee about Clarke and Sharp imo. Be interested how you view Lavery? And the potential of Brooks?

I like both but I have some slight doubts as to whether Lavery can cut it at this level. I think Brooks will be a sensation if he gets regular game time.

Agree it was a very good assessment and also with your doubts about Lavery.

As for Brooks, I believe he's more than capable of holding his own in the Championship and should be given the chance to prove it. He' obviously the most talented and exciting prospect we've had in many a long year and has a keen eye for goal.

I'd like to se him playing just behind the front two in a 3-4-1-2 formation and then sit back and watch the absolute mayhem we could cause to most opposition defences, including that of our less fortunate neighbours.
 
As for Brooks, I believe he's more than capable of holding his own in the Championship

On what evidence?

I really hope you're right but I feel for the lad. He has already been built up to be something between Messi and Pele, but with the advantage of youth on his side!
 
On what evidence?

I really hope you're right but I feel for the lad. He has already been built up to be something between Messi and Pele, but with the advantage of youth on his side!

Agree you have to tread really carefully with talent.

For every Kyle Walker there's a John Bostock.
He made his debut for Palace aged 15 and I think became the most expensive teenager when he joined Spurs. Everyone raved about him being a future star.

For every Kyle Naughton there's a Jordan Slew, is he still at Plymouth?

I remember West Ham's Joe Cole was an amazing prodigy as a teenager.
All the experts were saying hes the biggest English talent in years and could end up better than Gazza. Cole had a good career but no where what the experts predicted.

Anyone remember Luke Freeman? when he played against us for Stevenage he looked a world beater But he's hardly gone on to make a name for himself.

Brooks could easily end up the same.
He's blessed with great talent but he needs to knuckle down and use it.
 
Agree you have to tread really carefully with talent.

For every Kyle Walker there's a John Bostock.
He made his debut for Palace aged 15 and I think became the most expensive teenager when he joined Spurs.

For every Kyle Naughton there's a Jordan Slew.

I remember West Ham's Joe Cole was an amazing prodigy as a teenager.
All the experts were saying hes the biggest English talent is years and could end up better than Gazza.
Cole had a good career but no where what the experts predicted.

Anyone remember Luke Freeman? when he played against us for Stevenage he looked a world beater
But he's hardly gone on to make a name for himself.

Brooks could easily end up the same.
He's blessed with great talent but he needs to knuckle down and use it.

Joe Cole should have gone abroad instead of going to Chelsea.
 



On what evidence?

I really hope you're right but I feel for the lad. He has already been built up to be something between Messi and Pele, but with the advantage of youth on his side!

On the evidence of what I've seen so far coupled with the assessments provided by others, both on here and elsewhere.

Obviously, my belief can only be tested one way or the other by him being given the chance and if I'm proved wrong I'll show my arse in Burton's window (if there still is one).

I realise that the Pele/Messi comment was exaggeration to make a point but only the greatest of sceptics could fail to see that he has quality and ability in abundance and if that's not enough to earn him a chance, I don't know what is.
 
I think Laverys basically a winger who shows scoring ability in front of goal. Think...the Cristiano Ronaldo role (I wish).
But the jury is still out with Lavery, he's still an experiment really trying to find himself.
Definitely has potential to be a very poor man Cristiano but how long can you keep saying 'he's young with potential'.
I think Laverys career will be down to how Wilder and Knill find the perfect role for him because at the moment he's not good enough to be a winger and not good enough to be a striker but he's not far away.

Haven't seen enough of Brooks and I reserve judgement.
He looks very talented but that means nothing.
Also let's look at the evidence, he's recently played really well, but that at under 19 (almost school boy level) and pre season friendlies against lower league opposition when their players are just trying to find fitness.
Basically Brooks has done nothing yet and we've seen plenty of examples where talented players don't achieve.
Having been on the go most of the Summer, I would think CW will be careful of how much he asks Brookes to do.
 
One of the big problems for Leon is fitness. He does pick up injuries and we need him fit. The tight hamstring for Leon tonight worries me! I hope Billy and Donaldson are ok for Saturday.

Thought Ched was carrying an injury, but he looked very decent tonight and was at full pace, from what I saw. It was only a cameo, but encouraging nonetheless.
 

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