Kevin McCabe on David Brooks

[Tyler Durden]

I've not got a bad record if they actually make coherent sense

And yet every question put to you has been a bit of a struggle hasn't it? Rather odd given that words are sort of important in your job.

Here, I'll write out a few possible replies for you to save you some time:

"What do you mean by question"?

"What do you mean by important"?

"What do you mean by job"?

 

[stringer]

And yet every question put to you has been a bit of a struggle hasn't it? Rather odd given that words are sort of important in your job.

Here, I'll write out a few possible replies for you to save you some time:

"What do you mean by question"?

"What do you mean by important"?

"What do you mean by job"?

What was the hurdle I struggled to overcome?

 

[stringer]

Coherent sense? Is there another kind?

Well, yeah. Something can make sense without being logical

 

[WooltonBlade]

Pretty sure he said it would be alright in the Championship in terms of not selling academy players.

 

[Worksop II]

mccabes being honest , its not in his ability to match prem wages where we are

This close season when we have 2 Multi Millionaires the GCI aint appearing, if we were in the PL McCabe would have trouble spending the money.

Udders have done £40million so far this close Season, Leicester have done £20million with another £40million on the Table for Sigurdson from Swansea

McCabe would need oxygen to to read those numbers, he just aint gonna do it, its not in his nature

 

[BushBlade]

Well, yeah. Something can make sense without being logical

I don't think you can have 'incoherent sense' though. The use of the term coherent was superfluous. You should have either said 'if they actually make sense' or 'if they are coherent'. Either is good, 'coherent sense' is a bit clumsy and awkward.

 

[Tyler Durden]

What was the hurdle I struggled to overcome?

See, the thing about your line of work Daniel is that it is meant to be open to public scrutiny (or "interfered" with as you strangely put it) or else it isn't journalism at all.
You've emphatically fallen at that particular hurdle.

There you go champ, hope this helps as I'm not very good at diagrams...

 

[stringer]

There you go champ, hope this helps as I'm not very good at diagrams...

Thanks, Matty. It seems pretty open to scrutiny to me, judging by posts of your good self and a couple of others?

'coherent sense' is a bit clumsy and awkward.

Have you read anything I've written before?

 

[georgebernardshaw]

This is a SUFC messageboard to discuss United, is it not?

Correct - it's not a clickbait vehicle for the Star.

Strangest thing, you appear at #01, then don't reappear until #80, having started a discussion/argument about last nights star player.
How long before the Star publishes "feelings are running high amongst United fans" etc.etc.
Do us a favour, go drive your own vehicle, shitty and shabby as it is.

 

[Tyler Durden]

I don't think you can have 'incoherent sense' though. The use of the term coherent was superfluous. You should have either said 'if they actually make sense' or 'if they are coherent'. Either is good, 'coherent sense' is a bit clumsy and awkward.

You're right.

It's not articulatley eloquent.

 

[stringer]

Correct - it's not a clickbait vehicle for the Star.

Strangest thing, you appear at #01, then don't reappear until #80, having started a discussion/argument about last nights star player.
How long before the Star publishes "feelings are running high amongst United fans" etc.etc.
Do us a favour, go drive your own vehicle, shitty and shabby as it is.

Click the link or don't, that's your choice George. I posted the relevant bit so the good people of S24SU could read and debate it without the extra few seconds of clicking. I reappeared because I have a job to do. And I spent most of my day writing hundreds of words on Brooks.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

I have no idea how much they were paying him and neither have you! They took the money they were offered. A bit like we did with the two Kyles.

But you made the point that if we value a player very highly we must pay wages that reflect that. I am asserting that Charlton got mega top dollar for their player and anyone who thinks they were paying him mega bucks in salary is,well just fucking stupid.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Thanks, Matty. It seems pretty open to scrutiny to me, judging by posts of your good self and a couple of others?

Well that's a given since you posted it on a public forum.

Your handling of such scrutiny however is.... well I think you know where I'm going with this...

 

[stringer]

You're right.

It's not articulatley eloquent.

Possibly because 'articulatley' isn't a word

 

[bladesmanluke]

This club has always been a jam tomorrow sort of club. Investment when we return to the championship. Hanging onto our youngsters when we get back to the championship. Nothing ever changes

 

[stringer]

Well that's a given since you posted it on a public forum.

Your handling of such scrutiny however is.... well I think you know where I'm going with this...

Ah, so nothing to do with the actual journalism then. Gotcha!

 

[BushBlade]

Reight, if we're trotting out old cliches how about

Bullshit
Lies
And
Deceit
Every
Season.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Click the link or don't, that's your choice George. I posted the relevant bit so the good people of S24SU could read and debate it without the extra few seconds of clicking. I reappeared because I have a job to do. And I spent most of my day writing hundreds of words on Brooks.

Sorry, but you didn't - you posted it to get things stirred up - what other motive could a hard working journalist have?

 

[Large Mendonca]

We would because I am sure we won't be matching those wages. It's ok everyone says w shouldn't sell out but these players are getting offered silly money. So you can either stay at the Lane and earn £1k or go to Everton and earn 10k. Your move Brooks...

But if he's under contract, we have the final say ?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Anyway Linz when you posted that poll regarding Star URLs and the forum voted roughly 2:1 in favour of blocking them, I think you can probably see that this thread highlights why it's necessary to implement it.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

“In many ways [promotion has eased pressure of selling youngsters]. But the truth is until you are back in the Premier League, if a Premier League club comes along and wants one of your players... if someone can give me the answer of how you keep them. I think most supporters realise that our desire is not to sell a David Brooks - obviously a youngster with immense talent - or a Dominic Calvert-Lewin. But when the big dog comes knocking...”

www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/danny-hall-sheffield-united-s-david-brooks-is-a-young-man-of-few-words-but-immense-potential-1-8658586

Just have a word with the Southend chairman he will tell you how you avoid selling players to clubs in the next league above you.

 

[wizadry]

I gather we all don't want to sell Brooks but if we did sell him we'd want a proper fee for potentially a top four player, he's that good.

What I want to pick up on though is this trait of seeing people slag each other off on here regards McCabe in particular.

What those on the so called pro McCabe side need to realise is that the so called anti McCabe side want the best for the Blades, in either receiving a proper fee for a certain player or being ambitious and keeping said player to help us rise the leagues so we can earn more money as a club through a lot of other avenues.

On the flipside the anti McCabe side need to realise he won't be here long and will still be looking to recoup some of his losses from mostly his own diabolical decisions admittedly, one being Robson, so whilst he's still here expect things like sales of our young talent to keep happening.

I'd be as gutted as anyone if Brooks was sold but I personally think that in McCabes' position it's inevitable unfortunately. I really hope I'm proved wrong for all our sakes.

 

[Stretch]

Bye bye Brooksy

 

[stringer]

Sorry, but you didn't - you posted it to get things stirred up - what other motive could a hard working journalist have?

No, believe me I did. Think otherwise if you like, just don't tell me how or why I think

 

[BushBlade]

Just have a word with the Southend chairman he will tell you how you avoid selling players to clubs in the next league above you.

We're not trying to buy Leonard, we're trying to steal him. If it was just a case of buying him we'd have offered £1m and Southend would have rolled over. But we're trying to get him on the cheap. That takes time and effort.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Ah, so nothing to do with the actual journalism then. Gotcha!

Well, you are a journalist, and everyone agrees that you're shit-stirring. I'd say that's the very essence of modern journalism to be honest (especially the local variety).

 

[nopigfansintown]

Well, where to begin?...
I've been to a number of events with Mr McCabe down the years, in which he has talked about his vision for United. This vision ineluctably leads him to academy players playing the key role in the Blades regeneration. Or to be more precise: academy players starring in the first team being the route to on field success for the Blades. Have we seen this over the last decade? I'd have to say no. Some players have made excellent contributions - such as Harry Maguire, - but most have made very fleeting impacts. Does this matter to most fans? No, as long as the club is successful alongside player sales. Some fans would say McCabe's blueprint is disingenuous; others that the sales were inevitable but the deals were wrong. Others will blame the manager's use of the money, as the primary reason sales haven't been married with success.
In the last couple of years, we have had a stellar crop emerging, and I've looked forward to the likes of Semple, Ramsdale, Slater, DCL and Brooks coming through. Some of these have been sold, already. The difference being: success and sales have gone hand in hand under Wilder.
Where I have been disappointed is in the prices we get for our players.This will only come under greater scrutiny the higher in the pyramid we climb.As a championship club, the financial parameters have changed. The frankly bargains prices that we allowed Ramsdale and DCL to move for, will not allow us to pay the wages and fees for the same volume of players we obtained with these funds in league one (if similar sales happen). If the goal is to climb the ladder with a team containing top class academy players, and/or do it with the funds we obtain from them - the fees have to be much bigger.In Brook's case, I would ask this question: is now the right time to sell him and maximise his value? If McCabe's vision of a team full of academy lad's is a utopian one, then maximising value is the key issue. Sell them when under long contracts, when they're at the peak of their valuation.

 

[stringer]

Well, you are a journalist, and everyone agrees that you're shit-stirring. I'd say that's the very essence of modern journalism to be honest (especially the local variety).

Speaking for everyone again are we Matthew? Here's me thinking fans would be interested in the chairman's stance on selling/not selling arguably the club's prized asset

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Speaking for everyone again are we Matthew? Here's me thinking fans would be interested in the chairman's stance on selling/not selling arguably the club's prized asset

But you've already said this is an old article which means Brooks wasn't at that time the clubs prize assett.
I'd say you're attention seeking more than shit stirring.
We've heard this mantra from McCabe a thousand times.

 

[Wards]

£15 million and you can have him.