CONFIRMED Ryan Leonard

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This apparent Lundstram bid, means the end of Leonard interest I would've thought

Why not sign both? We're hardly overflowing with centre mids. Coutts, Fleck & Carruthers currently at the club. Basham could step up but then we're hardly overflowing with CBs. Signing both would make sense.

Or, we could be pushing Southend into selling.
 
Why not sign both? We're hardly overflowing with centre mids. Coutts, Fleck & Carruthers currently at the club. Basham could step up but then we're hardly overflowing with CBs. Signing both would make sense.

Or, we could be pushing Southend into selling.


Not sure CW will sign two similar type players that's all

Leonard the more combative defensive midfielder and Holmes being the attacking midfielder.

I see Lundstram as the alternative to Leonard rather than Holmes

I have no problem with signing both, just not sure I see it. We'll see tho
 
Why not sign both? We're hardly overflowing with centre mids. Coutts, Fleck & Carruthers currently at the club. Basham could step up but then we're hardly overflowing with CBs. Signing both would make sense.

Or, we could be pushing Southend into selling.
There's little doubt that we will sell, all that is contentious is the price.............but that has been the issue throughout this thread.

The only niggle I have is that we will get into a 'Bilel Moshni' situation. He was a French/Tunisian we had a few seasons back. Mad as box of frogs, he was, chased other players with scissors, but a fabulous player on his day. West Ham offered £150k which we thought was a lot for a nutter but Ron kept batting the bids away. In the end West Ham gave us the Foxtrot Oscar bit and we ended up letting him go for nothing in the end.
 
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There's little doubt that we will sell, all that is contentious is the price.............but that has been the issue throughout this thread.

This might be our way of saying accept our offer you agreed on previously or we'll look elsewhere. Millwall may not match us so you'd be out of pocket.
 
This might be our way of saying accept our offer you agreed on previously or we'll look elsewhere. Millwall may not match us so you'd be out of pocket.
Now I'm confused, nowhere is there anything factual which says the club agreed one of your offers previously. Neither is there any evidence of that on the social media front.
 
Now I'm confused, nowhere is there anything factual which says the club agreed one of your offers previously. Neither is there any evidence of that on the social media front.


One thing is I think clear. And it seems the only thing that is.
Leonard will play for another club this season. It's just who and when the move happens.
Think he's coming our way.
 
Now I'm confused, nowhere is there anything factual which says the club agreed one of your offers previously. Neither is there any evidence of that on the social media front.

Agreed an offer is the wrong wording, but I was under the impression that we were led to believe that you'd accept a certain amount, we met it, and you didn't? Sorry, it's hard to keep track!
 
To be fair....there's not a lot of anything factual.

We have bid.
Millwall bid.
You have rejected both.
He has put a transfer request in.
Won't play for you again.

That's pretty much the whole story. The rest is conjecture and guess work by everyone.

And if I'm honest, Im not fussed either way.
But I will say that Ron is possibly going to end up cutting off his nose just to spite his face if he's not careful
 
Agreed an offer is the wrong wording, but I was under the impression that we were led to believe that you'd accept a certain amount, we met it, and you didn't? Sorry, it's hard to keep track!
As Grizzly says it's all conjecture although I've no doubt Lenny's agent is being mischievous in the background in an attempt to make things happen. I hope Ron does not end up minus his proboscis, that would be really horrible if he had a heavy cold.
 
As Grizzly says it's all conjecture although I've no doubt Lenny's agent is being mischievous in the background in an attempt to make things happen. I hope Ron does not end up minus his proboscis, that would be really horrible if he had a heavy cold.

He is rightly seeking the best possible deal for his club but Martin is playing a risky game. If Utd, as has been reported today, switch their attention to another target (i.e. Lundstrum), he could end up being left with a lower offer on the table (Millwall's) or, if that remains rejected, a player that no longer wants to be at the club whose value will depreciate to £0 in < 1 year.

Not sure which way it will go but it does seem to be approaching the end one way or another.
 
Why not sign both? We're hardly overflowing with centre mids. Coutts, Fleck & Carruthers currently at the club. Basham could step up but then we're hardly overflowing with CBs. Signing both would make sense.

Or, we could be pushing Southend into selling.

I'm not convinced about Carruthers tbh. My gut instinct tells me he's a bit of a twat?
 

I'm not convinced about Carruthers tbh. My gut instinct tells me he's a bit of a twat?

He looks the joker of the pack that's for sure - good for morale I say. Twat is a bit strong IMO. In purely footballing terms I think he's been fantastic for us and will only get better next season.
 
There's little doubt that we will sell, all that is contentious is the price.............but that has been the issue throughout this thread.

The only niggle I have is that we will get into a 'Bilel Moshni' situation. He was a French/Tunisian we had a few seasons back. Mad as box of frogs, he was, chased other players with scissors, but a fabulous player on his day. West Ham offered £150k which we thought was a lot for a nutter but Ron kept batting the bids away. In the end West Ham gave us the Foxtrot Oscar bit and we ended up letting him go for nothing in the end.

Hey Mr Rooter! You've changed your tune a bit haven't you? ""No doubt we will sell" now is it? Total opposite of what you were saying previously then?

Was it you or Mr Shrimp pyjamas who said that? I can't recall but it doesn't matter anyway. Leonard is out of there - that's it.
 
This apparent Lundstram bid, means the end of Leonard interest I would've thought

Not sure why because imo FWIW I don't see them fulfilling the same roles at all
 
As Grizzly says it's all conjecture although I've no doubt Lenny's agent is being mischievous in the background in an attempt to make things happen. I hope Ron does not end up minus his proboscis, that would be really horrible if he had a heavy cold.

The time is nigh where we will either sign him or as the chorus of the song goes, tell Southend:
' Da doo one Ron Ron, da doo one Ron Ron. '
 
Hey Mr Rooter! You've changed your tune a bit haven't you? ""No doubt we will sell" now is it? Total opposite of what you were saying previously then?

Was it you or Mr Shrimp pyjamas who said that? I can't recall but it doesn't matter anyway. Leonard is out of there - that's it.
Get a grip Cerberus, I've always said we would sell if you came up with enough dosh. Now our Len has put in a transfer request, he is indeed out there. So do the decent thing, have a chat with Wilder (you sound the influential type) and tell him to cough up at least £600k plus add-ons. That will probably clinch the deal. And do try to keep up on who says what, good man.
 
Get a grip Cerberus, I've always said we would sell if you came up with enough dosh. Now our Len has put in a transfer request, he is indeed out there. So do the decent thing, have a chat with Wilder (you sound the influential type) and tell him to cough up at least £600k plus add-ons. That will probably clinch the deal. And do try to keep up on who says what, good man.

If the reported offer to Oxford is correct, Ron might have shot himself in the arse with this one. A player wanting away, a much lower offer from Millwall the only offer on the table and a very pissed off player and agent bashing on his door every hour. You reap what you sow, greedy git.
 
I'm not convinced about Carruthers tbh. My gut instinct tells me he's a bit of a twat?

I can think of a bigger twat in our squad ;):eek:

But anyway, he does seem like he may not quite have the same work ethic and professionalism as most of the rest of them. Only Wilder knows I guess.
 
If the reported offer to Oxford is correct, Ron might have shot himself in the arse with this one. A player wanting away, a much lower offer from Millwall the only offer on the table and a very pissed off player and agent bashing on his door every hour. You reap what you sow, greedy git.
I can't deny any of those, but lets see what this week brings eh?
 
I very much hope we conclude a deal for Leonard. Everything about him I've seen and read seems right.
 
This has just popped up on Chris Phillips (Echo) Twitter account.

Chris Phillips‏ @CJPhillips1982 3m

Ron Martin: "I had a meeting with Ryan on Saturday morning and, after our talk, he chose not to put in a transfer request."

8:06 pm - 16 Jul 2017


I have no idea where that leaves the situation, or whether Len had a change of heart and did put one in. Nothing's easy here is it?
 
This has just popped up on Chris Phillips (Echo) Twitter account.

Chris Phillips‏ @CJPhillips1982 3m

Ron Martin: "I had a meeting with Ryan on Saturday morning and, after our talk, he chose not to put in a transfer request."

8:06 pm - 16 Jul 2017


I have no idea where that leaves the situation, or whether Len had a change of heart and did put one in. Nothing's easy here is it?


hence the bid for Lundstram?
 

This has just popped up on Chris Phillips (Echo) Twitter account.

Chris Phillips‏ @CJPhillips1982 3m

Ron Martin: "I had a meeting with Ryan on Saturday morning and, after our talk, he chose not to put in a transfer request."

8:06 pm - 16 Jul 2017


I have no idea where that leaves the situation, or whether Len had a change of heart and did put one in. Nothing's easy here is it?

But he still didn't feature in the friendly? Bizarre.

Phil Brown surprises me in all this. He's been around long enough to know the score and be advising ego Ron on all this.
 

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