CONFIRMED Louis Reed joins Chesterfield on season long loan

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I'd imagine that means Brooks isn't.

I'd be more comfortable with Reed there than Brooks. We could actually afford him to do well and develop without having to cave in and sell him in January.
 
He will end up in league 2 anyway, just a matter of time
 
He will do really well for them. Good luck to the lad he ran most U23 games last year. He is just small but can tackle and certainly pass doesn't always position and track well enough but at his age there is a good player in there still. But most likely not at united in the championship
 
It will be make or break for Reed and I can't decide how I think he'll get on. He'll fit in well with Caldwell's preferred style of play but may struggle in such a physical league. I don't know if Chessie have such a player but I'd imagine the best chance of him flourishing would be to put him with a midfield enforcer, who do a lot of the dirty work and allow Reed to get on the ball.
 
He looked decent when he came in as a 17 year old and was clearly talented in possession - Just not quite kicked in from there.

Year at chesterfield sounds ideal for both clubs and the player. Hopefully they will be towards the top end of he table and he gets regular time in a successful side.

Good luck to the lad - let's see how he gets on.
 

Barney said:
I have never rated Louis Reed but #GoodLuckToTheLad.
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That's the issue though.

2 years ago he was hot property down at the Academy with Di Gerolarmo.
Some Blades predicted they both had massive futures and both would be worth many millions in a few years.

There were rumours that other clubs were sniffing round and some predicted we'd sell off the Crown Jewels again
And let him go for £1 or £2 million.

We showed ambition by giving Reed and especially Che Adams a big pay rise.
Apparently Che Adams was going to be a future England international and we should demand £5 to £10 million for him.

My point is that the vast majority of promising youngsters don't amount to what their potential promises.
 
Mouth of the South said:
It will be make or break for Reed and I can't decide how I think he'll get on. He'll fit in well with Caldwell's preferred style of play but may struggle in such a physical league. I don't know if Chessie have such a player but I'd imagine the best chance of him flourishing would be to put him with a midfield enforcer, who do a lot of the dirty work and allow Reed to get on the ball.
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He will get on as well as chesterfield get on
 
elgoog44 said:
that would be funny and following up with, "But we will let you have player X on loan instead", then recalling them as well, maybe Chris does not like Caldwell?
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If they work down the list far enough they'll be sending me on loan.

"well it's a good ten years since he played and his knees are fucked. He commands his area well as long as you tie a Pork Pie on a piece of string so he can follow it"
 
Sheffsteel said:
That's the issue though.

2 years ago he was hot property down at the Academy with Di Gerolarmo.
Some Blades predicted they both had massive futures and both would be worth many millions in a few years.

There were rumours that other clubs were sniffing round and some predicted we'd sell off the Crown Jewels again
And let him go for £1 or £2 million.

We showed ambition by giving Reed and especially Che Adams a big pay rise.
Apparently Che Adams was going to be a future England international and we should demand £5 to £10 million for him.

My point is that the vast majority of promising youngsters don't amount to what their potential promises.
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The counterpoint being it only takes one or two to work out - if we had actually held on to the players & progressed to being in the premier league.

We could have just sold Maguire for £17m and walker for £40m.

There will be the odd 'slew' where things don't pan out.

But would £1m buy you any of DCL, Adams, Ramsdale currently? Nope - I'd argue to get those guys back now would cost well over £10m.

In today's market there is no upside for letting players go cheap - there is so much money floating around. it's not 1999 anymore and £1m is pocket change to plenty of championship sides and literally nothing to any premier league side (a couple of weeks wages for some players). They can offer to buy 10 players for a million incase 1 works out and not even blink an eye.
 
Bladeinleeds said:
We could have just sold Maguire for £17m and walker for £40m.
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Daftest thing I've read today (and I read my own posts).

They are only worth those sums because they have proven themselves in the Prem. Suppose we'd not sold Walker in 2010 and he'd stayed here and not had his head turned. After 250 games in L1 and 6 POTS awards, are you saying there would be a queue of clubs offering us £40m for a L1 player?

Bladeinleeds said:
In today's market there is no upside for letting players go cheap - there is so much money floating around. it's not 1999 anymore and £1m is pocket change to plenty of championship sides and literally nothing to any premier league side
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I agree it is peanuts to them, but to a club losing £5-6m every season a £1m is a lot of money. Once you stop losing money (or get owners so wealthy that it doesn't matter), then you can turn bids down. Until then you have to doff your cap to the big boys and say thank you very much.
 
I should coco said:
Daftest thing I've read today (and I read my own posts).

They are only worth those sums because they have proven themselves in the Prem. Suppose we'd not sold Walker in 2010 and he'd stayed here and not had his head turned. After 250 games in L1 and 6 POTS awards, are you saying there would be a queue of clubs offering us £40m for a L1 player?



I agree it is peanuts to them, but to a club losing £5-6m every season a £1m is a lot of money. Once you stop losing money (or get owners so wealthy that it doesn't matter), then you can turn bids down. Until then you have to doff your cap to the big boys and say thank you very much.
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How many clubs topped the final bids for DCL, Adams and Maguire etc etc etc at the time?
 
I should coco said:
Daftest thing I've read today (and I read my own posts).

They are only worth those sums because they have proven themselves in the Prem. Suppose we'd not sold Walker in 2010 and he'd stayed here and not had his head turned. After 250 games in L1 and 6 POTS awards, are you saying there would be a queue of clubs offering us £40m for a L1 player?



I agree it is peanuts to them, but to a club losing £5-6m every season a £1m is a lot of money. Once you stop losing money (or get owners so wealthy that it doesn't matter), then you can turn bids down. Until then you have to doff your cap to the big boys and say thank you very much.
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That's not what I meant - if we had kept hold of them. I'm convinced a squad with the likes of walker, naughton, Lowton, Harry in it would be in the premier league. Then we would have got far more money for them than selling 10 players at a million a pop.

I'm not stupid - I know being in league 1 means we didn't have options and can't hard ball sides. I can see why the likes of ramsdale and dcl were sold because it allowed us to pay the bill and sign Moore etc.

But in general if we'd have kept hold of these players I'd argue they would be worth more money by far now.

What could Everton get for dcl or Birmingham for Adams?
 
Bladeinleeds said:
That's not what I meant - if we had kept hold of them. I'm convinced a squad with the likes of walker, naughton, Lowton, Harry in it would be in the premier league. Then we would have got far more money for them than selling 10 players at a million a pop.

I'm not stupid - I know being in league 1 means we didn't have options and can't hard ball sides. I can see why the likes of ramsdale and dcl were sold because it allowed us to pay the bill and sign Moore etc.

But in general if we'd have kept hold of these players I'd argue they would be worth more money by far now.

What could Everton get for dcl or Birmingham for Adams?
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Probably about double what we sold them for plus.
 
Reed has had 3 seasons with England in amongst a strong batch of players. Obviously he couldnt maintain that without first team football. It was a big achievement for a L1 yougster. Quality player victim of circumstances at Bramall Lane. Player of the Season if he goes to Chesterfield.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Reed has had 3 seasons with England in amongst a strong batch of players. Obviously he couldnt maintain that without first team football. It was a big achievement for a L1 yougster. Quality player victim of circumstances at Bramall Lane. Player of the Season if he goes to Chesterfield.
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I'm wishin' on a star...to follow where you are...
 
If Reed doesn't add another dimension to his game he'll just slowly drift into non-league as a player that looks the part but has no end product.

It's not enough to just be able to pass relatively well.

He's very small, he's not especially known for dribbling and he doesn't score goals.

Very few get away with having so little of these attributes as a midfielder. Leon Britton managed to get by with reading the game so well likewise Makelele, who was also a fine tackler.

He's either got to become:

Deeper lying Midfield quarterback who dictates game tempo and has a nack of being there right place and time (a la Coutts these days).

Number ten, who picks defence splitting passes at will and starts to notch in his own right.

He doesn't have the physique to be all rounder, box to box player so he needs to adopt one of the above in the next 12 months or he'll just be a small lad who looks tidy but achieves little in 90 minutes and is a liability at set plays defensively due to his lack of height.

Just my 2 cents. Regressed in my opinion and has a lot to do this year.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Or maybe 'wallowing in mud glorious mud' slinging at any young hopeful from S2.
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Not at all. No-one loves to see talented players playing for United more than I. That's why I have no time for useless ragamuffins like Doyle and Montgomery. If the talented players happen to be young hopefuls - fine; if they're experienced campaigners like Jake Wright and Billy Sharp, also fine.

In what way was Little Louis a 'victim of circumstance? Not big enough? Not strong enough? Not good enough? Simply plenty of better players ahead of him for selection?

Many thousands of victims of circumstances have gone before him. The remedy is Division Four or the Conference. That's where he's going. Life's hard; so is professional football. It's about United, not Louis Reed.
 

Pinchy said:
Not at all. No-one loves to see talented players playing for United more than I. That's why I have no time for useless ragamuffins like Doyle and Montgomery. If the talented players happen to be young hopefuls - fine; if they're experienced campaigners like Jake Wright and Billy Sharp, also fine.

In what way was Little Louis a 'victim of circumstance? Not big enough? Not strong enough? Not good enough? Simply plenty of better players ahead of him for selection?

Many thousands of victims of circumstances have gone before him. The remedy is Division Four or the Conference. That's where he's going. Life's hard; so is professional football. It's about United, not Louis Reed.
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Stay right there Pinchy, where you choose to be.

I look for local lads/ Academy lads playing for us for years to come. Not just the stars destined for the Prem, but solid backbone players because we have failed to accumulate them for years. Not all players are stars but no team on earth has a team full of stars.

Pochettino has stated he intends to paly Amonah, Winks and Walker-Peters in the coming season. Got to be right.
 
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