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This could be quite significant. He'd be a big signing for them, don't think they'd sign Leonard too. It would only make us more likely to get him.

 
This could be quite significant. He'd be a big signing for them, don't think they'd sign Leonard too. It would only make us more likely to get him.



According to John Kelly (Southwark News journo) we are still in for Leonard, even with Saville.

https://www.newsatden.co.uk/63210-wolves-saville-set-for-millwall-return-after-fee-agreed.html

Our American chairman is wealthy, he just doesnt like spending silly money or on players with no value.

I think our CEO is working hard to get Southend to agree a deal - he was Southend CEO until half way through last season.

But I think we are a bit like you lot & won't be gping too ott to get him.
 
Morgan was a good centre-back and leader but an appallingly useless coach, yet people talk about bringinimback. Staggering.

"People"? Who might they be then? My bet is you'll struggle to find 3 people talking about "bringingimback" on this forum in the last 2 years.

90% of you try to ignore it.

You talk absolute shit mate.
 
It seems an improved bid has been made, and turned down, for Lenny. It's not yet clear whether that was from Sheffield or Millwall. Our local paper is promising more news today. Exciting this isn't it? In other news of the Blues, it seems we are going to persevere with Nile Ranger when he gets out of the nick. Nothing to do with this thread, but I knew you would want to know as we both have an interest in players that have been banged up.
 
It seems an improved bid has been made, and turned down, for Lenny. It's not yet clear whether that was from Sheffield or Millwall. Our local paper is promising more news today. Exciting this isn't it? In other news of the Blues, it seems we are going to persevere with Nile Ranger when he gets out of the nick. Nothing to do with this thread, but I knew you would want to know as we both have an interest in players that have been banged up.

Ours wrongfully convicted. Ranger is just a vile bastard in all fairness.
 
Ours wrongfully convicted. Ranger is just a vile bastard in all fairness.
Yep, Nile has done some pretty nasty stuff in his past. Maybe prison will help him to mend his ways. Sorry, I'm way off topic here.

Back to Lenny...........give us more money you tight fisted gits, we have a crumbling ground and convicts to support you know.
 
Yep, Nile has done some pretty nasty stuff in his past. Maybe prison will help him to mend his ways. Sorry, I'm way off topic here.

Back to Lenny...........give us more money you tight fisted gits, we have a crumbling ground and convicts to support you know.

This is Yorkshire mate! The land of "arr much is it?". Like Scots with the generosity squeezed out. There's no way we'll be offering any more money. That brown envelope we sent you, stashed with 10 bob notes, is our final offer. Take it or leave it!

(Wait: I'll throw in my old Etch-a-Sketch as well).
 
This is Yorkshire mate! The land of "arr much is it?". Like Scots with the generosity squeezed out. There's no way we'll be offering any more money. That brown envelope we sent you, stashed with 10 bob notes, is our final offer. Take it or leave it!

(Wait: I'll throw in my old Etch-a-Sketch as well).

Mention of 10 bob notes and Etch-a-Sketch suggests mature wisdom lurking there somewhere. However, you will get 'owt for nowt' in this case. I'd be very happy to leave it by the way, I rate him that much.
 
Yep, Nile has done some pretty nasty stuff in his past. Maybe prison will help him to mend his ways. Sorry, I'm way off topic here.

Back to Lenny...........give us more money you tight fisted gits, we have a crumbling ground and convicts to support you know.
But on post #137 of this epic thread you kindly said
Bramall Lane better than Roots Hall...........you're having a laugh;)
so shouldn't you be giving us money for our more crumbling ground....;);)
 

But on post #137 of this epic thread you kindly said
so shouldn't you be giving us money for our more crumbling ground....;);)

The mention of our ground and one of our current players in the same breath as the word 'Epic' takes my breath away, thank you. As for ground maintenance, it costs money to keep Roots Hall in it's current state. Those of you who came down last season can confirm just how much character and charm it has...................this is getting a bit far fetched now I think. Just cough up and let this thread reach a finale eh?
 
The mention of our ground and one of our current players in the same breath as the word 'Epic' takes my breath away, thank you. As for ground maintenance, it costs money to keep Roots Hall in it's current state. Those of you who came down last season can confirm just how much character and charm it has...................this is getting a bit far fetched now I think. Just cough up and let this thread reach a finale eh?
Would love to but you guys need to realise we're more like Poundland than Harrods.
 
I'd like to apologise on behalf of all genuine football loving Blades for the damage inflicted on the beautiful game by the likes of Dinosaur Dave Bassett, Ol' Big Nose Warnock and Semi-Pro Blackwell.

The grotesque anti-football "played" by mediocrities like Vinnie Jones, Paul Williams, Jostein Flo, Mark Morris, Wally Fucking Downes, Nick Montgomery, Michael Doyle and countless others, was a disgrace to the shirt worn by Tony Currie, Alan Woodward, Len Badger. I am truly sorry.

We aided and abetted Charles Hughes and John Beck in bringing the Sunday League to professional football. We dispensed with skill, creativity, vision and style, in favour of a "Kick it Long; Kick it Hard; Kick it High" philosophy of despair. We sought to destroy proper football over many decades. I unreservedly apologise.

Even today, here in S2, there are those who yearn for a '3 pass rule' whereby possession is automatically turned over after a team's third touch of the ball. We like the results under Wilder but don't like the way in which they are achieved. We long to gerritforrard and gerritintbox. We want nowt-fancy, upanatem, Neanderthal pub football. We want to see football as ugly, outdated and out of place as an ill-fitting toupée.

For all this, I am ashamed and sincerely apologise. Pele forgive us.



“We like the results under Wilder but don't like the way in which they are achieved.”



Most of your post is subjective and whilst I disagree with a fair bit of it, there’s a fair bit I agree with (such as your stance on Downes and Jones). But the above sentence is just completely untrue. Show me one post where someone has complained about the way our results have been achieved. Or where anyone has said they would prefer to win playing long ball than passing football (the stance you mistake for this is one whereby people say they would settle for long ball as long as we were winning- there’s a big difference). You’re sufficiently intelligent to make reasoned arguments in support of your stance without the need for the hyperbole and straw man arguments. It really lets you down at times.
 
And yet we won't be waiting long for the next instalment of "How great Dave Bassett was". We never are. You miss one dinosaur; another comes round the corner.

It doesn't happen at any of his other clubs and football beyond the S2 wastelands regards him as a brief and long-forgotten stain on its character, like Hughes, Beck and all the other non-footballing "three passes are more than enough" drivel fraternity.

The membership of this forum is predominantly Bassett generation and by Pele, it shows. I'm just sorry you hoofers know nothing better, which fact is reinforced by your inability to understand that there is a right way to play this game: Proper football, not upanatem, underdog, nowt-fancy shadow-chasing.

Luckily Tufty understands it. That's why he and I use the same terminology and 90% of you try to ignore it.

❤️⚔️ ❤️⚽


Bassett is revered not because of his style of play but for the enormous overachievement during his time with the club that was at the time, in all sorts of financial difficulty. For providing us with special days like Leicester, Man U (PL Opening day and FA Cup), Liverpool, the derby double , Back to back promotions. Unearthing gems like Brian Deane, Tony Agana, Alan Kelly etc. for a pittance, bringing through the likes of Dane Whitehouse . OK the football could be crude (but not so exclusively as you suggest). When we didn’t have the personnel (after the sale of Deane) it became awful to watch. But he was a successful manager for us and should be remembered as such. He unearthed bargains and built teams that were more than the sum of their parts. You may be opposed to the style of football (not an unreasonable viewpoint) but to diminish the attributes and achievements he brought to the club is just distastefully disrespectful. You have, at times, in your more sensible moments acknowledged his achievements yourself. This extreme caricature stance you like to take on at times does you no credit.
 
I did. I followed them home and away. Leicester was fantastic. Wembley was an embarrassment. The Pigs gave us a football lesson from first to last.

He was the right man at the right time, I've said that repeatedly but I have come to realise that his legacy has done damage to our reputation (Wimbledon of the North etc.) and distorted the way our fans see football. Many of them, despite your protestations, would still rather be upanatem underdogs gerrinstuckin and gerrinitintbox rather than defeat the opposition by playing better football which, to the horror of S2 diehards, is actually the "right way" (as Tufty often emphasises, but people pretend he doesn't).

The most risible of all S2 myths is that his football philosophy has the slightest application in the 21st century. Hence the occasional calls (most recently when rightly sacked by Chesterfield) for the return of that useless article and nowt-fancy advocate Morgan to some sort of coaching role. Incredible, but true.

I want my team to play football better than I could ever imagine, not a supercharged version of what I could watch in a public park. Tuftyball is streets ahead of anything ever produced by DD or OBN. Ask Kevin Gage if I've got it wrong.


I agree with your last paragraph. But so far it’s only been achieved in a league where we are the big dogs, able to attract a better calibre of player than our rivals. This season will be a bigger test. If he can get to the Premier League and make us reasonably competitive there whilst also playing attractive football, I will agree with you that he will have surpassed Bassett’s achievements.
 
It seems an improved bid has been made, and turned down, for Lenny. It's not yet clear whether that was from Sheffield or Millwall. Our local paper is promising more news today. Exciting this isn't it? In other news of the Blues, it seems we are going to persevere with Nile Ranger when he gets out of the nick. Nothing to do with this thread, but I knew you would want to know as we both have an interest in players that have been banged up.


Sheffield? Sheffield?! SHEFFIELD???!!!!!!!

 
I'd like to know how much were bidding on this fella.
Wilder will more likely than not move on now.
 
I'd like to know how much were bidding on this fella.
Wilder will more likely than not move on now.

I bet you he doesn't. Unlike Jimmy White's Deadline Day Army, he knows the season starts in August. Until this lad goes elsewhere or signs a new contract drafted by master negotiator RugRon, our interest will persist.
 
Bassett is revered not because of his style of play but for the enormous overachievement during his time with the club that was at the time, in all sorts of financial difficulty. For providing us with special days like Leicester, Man U (PL Opening day and FA Cup), Liverpool, the derby double , Back to back promotions. Unearthing gems like Brian Deane, Tony Agana, Alan Kelly etc. for a pittance, bringing through the likes of Dane Whitehouse . OK the football could be crude (but not so exclusively as you suggest). When we didn’t have the personnel (after the sale of Deane) it became awful to watch. But he was a successful manager for us and should be remembered as such. He unearthed bargains and built teams that were more than the sum of their parts. You may be opposed to the style of football (not an unreasonable viewpoint) but to diminish the attributes and achievements he brought to the club is just distastefully disrespectful. You have, at times, in your more sensible moments acknowledged his achievements yourself. This extreme caricature stance you like to take on at times does you no credit.

You're too polite to him Dane. Some of his disrespect is a disgrace frankly.

He also shows his ignorance with that post too. Wally was a dirty sod and his training methods in the old gym were agricultural to say the least (the rules are there are no rules :) ) but he could play properly too.

He obviously missed a number of other players not mentioned during those eras he so loathed. Plenty who could play, some who could also mix it, others who couldnt.

Most of us love good football and last season was one of the best, but anyone who didn't enjoy 89-93 can't be a Blade for me.

I thought Gary Sinclair was out of order telling the dissenters under Adkins to watch Barcelona, but this one probably should. He can only have had a lifetime of misery watching us.
 
You're too polite to him Dane. Some of his disrespect is a disgrace frankly.

He also shows his ignorance with that post too. Wally was a dirty sod and his training methods in the old gym were agricultural to say the least (the rules are there are no rules :) ) but he could play properly too.

He obviously missed a number of other players not mentioned during those eras he so loathed. Plenty who could play, some who could also mix it, others who couldnt.

Most of us love good football and last season was one of the best, but anyone who didn't enjoy 89-93 can't be a Blade for me.

I thought Gary Sinclair was out of order telling the dissenters under Adkins to watch Barcelona, but this one probably should. He can only have had a lifetime of misery watching us.

Bassett had no respect for the beautiful game. His loathing for proper football was and remains a disgrace. When he apologises I shall show him some respect. There was no misery watching John Harris' football team, yet Bassett is mentioned ten times as often on here. That's disgraceful.

And we're now doffing our caps to Wally Fucking Useless Downes! Incredible.

Kick it Long; Kick it Hard; Kick it High.
 

There was no misery watching John Harris' football team, yet Bassett is mentioned ten times as often on here. That's disgraceful.

No, it is just a function of age.

Harris retired in 1973 so to have seen his teams play and remember the football, you would have to have been born say before 1963.

Basset's glory years finished around 93 which is 24 years ago, so plenty in their 30s and 40s will remember the good times. Additionally there is more footage of the Basset era available on line.

Harris was a gentleman manager who built a superb team and arguably retired too early. He was a man of his era and Basset was likewise. Why you seem to have this fixation about an either/or choice between them, mystifies me.

I watched great United games under both but was only 9 when Harris left, so naturally have better, stronger and more reliable memories of times under DB.
 

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