Meltdown over......

[BushBlade]

Glad to hear you are staying as the time difference would have made it hard to post on here. You'd be posting in the middle of night with all the alco's and loonies having flaming rows with one another about pyro, racism and the price of fish.

I have to say I was a mite surprised you considered the move in the first place, but I suppose it's all part of the mid life crisis isn't it.

So, 'Cockney Prick' is still looking good then?

I didn't say I was moving there. I just used it as an example. I couldn't deal with posting after midnight with the drunks and nutters, it's bad enough in the day time having to converse with people who don't read threads properly.

 

[Blade56]

Of course to you the ones dragging the club back are only the ones criticising the big eared thick twat returning.

Yep

 

[Tunstall Fred]

I don't agree that Wilder does want Evans,i don't think he has a choice,read into that what you want !!

So you're saying Chris Wilder is a weak willed yes man,I read into your post that you are not a full shilling

 

[BushBlade]

I don't agree that Wilder does want Evans,i don't think he has a choice,read into that what you want !!

So you're saying Wilder was in the Premier Inn that night and Ched's blackmailing him?

 

[Tunstall Fred]

'Non-attendee'. Nice one. Everyone else who has expressed an adverse opinion to the reported signing of Evans who doesn't attend games is similarly bracketed, yeah? I mean, it wholly qualifies your opinion if you have attended games this season to express a full point of view because, y'know, clearly going to games counts.

I'll say this. Either you have had your head stuffed firmly up your arse for the last six seasons or you are trolling, and trolling badly. Or you are related or paid by McCabe. The money to buy Evans, whether it was Widler or not, will have to have been approved by McCabe. I doubt it was Wilder. I don't think he needs Evans in any way, shape or form, and certainly not to gamble any sort of money on a player who has misfired and struggled to establish himself this season and played in a relegated setup, to stick him in a promoted setup. There. I don't need to attend any game (ever) to form that opinion. Maybe you should stop going to games because it seems to blind you to the bleedin' obvious. Or, you'd better hope upon hope Evans has 20 goals in him next season, in a division he was patently woeful as a younger version of himself with four goals and then nine goals. We were relegated as well.

pommpey

Blah,blah,blah,non attendee with an agenda

 

[SUFC Guy]

So what you are saying is that this Meltdown wasn't as long as the last Ice Age meltdown?

Yes another thread on Ched, this one to sort out the over reactions, the meltdown stops here. 100% of Blades have praised CW and his team and tactics that have delivered the L1 championship and promises to deliver a reight party on Sunday topped off with 100 points.

You all declared you are behind Chris Wilder nows the time to prove they were not platitudes.

If it's true and he sees Ched as a key part of his plans then back him?

Stop dragging the club and fans backwards into disharmony the media and pigs would like to see and get on the Mighty Blades bandwagon to celibrate this club moving forward.

So what you are saying is that this meltdown wasn't as long as the last meltdown?

 

[Grizzly blade]

How do you know we have only paid £150k for him? Where has that figure come from?

The same place th £500k figure came from....someone's arse!

It's like this....if you have an agenda...say against one of the owners you use the figure generated by the media (to make it more sensational) then you use a figure like 500k to cause as much fury and rumpus as possible because we all know that the amount is more than he is worth based on his season with Chesterfield alone.

If your agenda is painting the club in a positive light...you say the figure is much less, say £150k, because that amount is peanuts in comparison and would make that amount a worthwhile gamble based on his PAST exploits of a footballer.

Now you can decide yourself where some of the supporters on here's agendas lay, but their motives are anyone's guess. But Wilder has put a few past sensationalist headlines right when putting down the fallacies surrounding us "buying" our way out of this division. Without checking, I believe the truth around what we had paid for Moore, Carruthers, Clarke and Hanson for example was a good deal less than the figures quoted by media and other clubs chairmen.
Don't be surprised if the manager or other club representative puts this equally random figure right when they feel the time is appropriate. Say, when we actually complete the transfer after the current season has finished!

 

[Harrisblade]

Blah,blah,blah,non attendee with an agenda

That's totally unfair!
Pommpey would have the same agenda whether he attended or not.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

The same place th £500k figure came from....someone's arse!

It's like this....if you have an agenda...say against one of the owners you use the figure generated by the media (to make it more sensational) then you use a figure like 500k to cause as much fury and rumpus as possible because we all know that the amount is more than he is worth based on his season with Chesterfield alone.

If your agenda is painting the club in a positive light...you say the figure is much less, say £150k, because that amount is peanuts in comparison and would make that amount a worthwhile gamble based on his PAST exploits of a footballer.

Now you can decide yourself where some of the supporters on here's agendas lay, but their motives are anyone's guess. But Wilder has put a few past sensationalist headlines right when putting down the fallacies surrounding us "buying" our way out of this division. Without checking, I believe the truth around what we had paid for Moore, Carruthers, Clarke and Hanson for example was a good deal less than the figures quoted by media and other clubs chairmen.
Don't be surprised if the manager or other club representative puts this equally random figure right when they feel the time is appropriate. Say, when we actually complete the transfer after the current season has finished!

Stop talking so much sense,McCabe is the Devil incarnate and Hitler rolled into one,please accept this

 

[pommpey]

Blah,blah,blah,non attendee with an agenda

And that's the extent of your debating skills. And that is why you are wrong.

When you can explain McCabe's involvement in our last six seasons of shite, then come back. He hasn't goosefatted Wilder, the team or the supporters this season and for that, I give thanks. Sounds like you want to give him thanks for the rest, mind. And you (apparently) are an attendee.

pommpey

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

So you're saying Chris Wilder is a weak willed yes man,I read into your post that you are not a full shilling

I am sure that the signing of Ched Evans was discussed when Chris Wilder took the managers job.

 

[Sean Thornton]

So you're saying Wilder was in the Premier Inn that night and Ched's blackmailing him?

Bit rich accusing someone of putting words into someone's mouth after you led I Should CoCo to believe you were moving to Jakarta.

 

[BushBlade]

Bit rich accusing someone of putting words into someone's mouth after you led I Should CoCo to believe you were moving to Jakarta.

There's no need to call me a twat though.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

And that's the extent of your debating skills. And that is why you are wrong.

When you can explain McCabe's involvement in our last six seasons of shite, then come back. He hasn't goosefatted Wilder, the team or the supporters this season and for that, I give thanks. Sounds like you want to give him thanks for the rest, mind. And you (apparently) are an attendee.

pommpey

I could debate with you until the middle of next week,would you change your viewpoint?

 

[Sean Thornton]

There's no need to call me a twat though.

The three of us can safely leave this thread now, it's back on topic.

 

[Barney]

Chris Wilder - "Tufty at the top: A tale of rags to riches and record breaking consecutive Champions League wins for his boyhood club"

Hardback £15.99, estimated publication date 2021.

i hope not, there wouldn't be any room for a picture

 

[Tunstall Fred]

I am sure that the signing of Ched Evans was discussed when Chris Wilder took the managers job.

How sure of this are you?So Chris you can have the job,but in 12 months time,no matter what occurs,you are signing Ched Evans,sign here please ,yes I can also envisage Chris going along with that,dreary me

 

[SteveBlade]

Let's be r8.

A full pre season in a Chris Wilder side is the best chance he'll ever get of getting back to his old self on the pitch.

One of two things will happen:

1. He'll be clearly off the pace, and not nearly as effective as before. We'll be disappointed and it'll prove to be a cheap signing that hasn't worked out.

2. He'll flourish under Wilders management and style of play and be an effective Championship striker.

Now, if 1 happens I'll be disappointed, but I won't particularly care too much. Other signings will be made this summer, and Ched not working won't be the be all and end all.

If 2 happens it'll be an excellent signing and could be exactly that extra bit we need to be a force in the Championship.

It's worth the risk, even for the maximum 500k amount being banded about.

 

[Rodley]

Pommpey

We have had plenty of run-ins over McCabe and I have always defended him but you are 100% spot on here.

Leaving out all the history would we have gambled £500k on a 28 year old injury prone Bury (say) striker who'd had a few years out of the game? Somehow I think not.

I can only hope that CW is comfortable with it and it hasn't caused problems between him and KM. If CW is happy, then that's good enough for me.

James Vaughan? Decent signing for me

 

[adebo]

James Vaughan? Decent signing for me

 

[pommpey]

I could debate with you until the middle of next week,would you change your viewpoint?

Your accusation of an 'agenda' is nothing of the sort. It's like most things on here. Remove the lens and it's a bit clearer. I don't want McCabe out. I don't think McCabe is a crook or is any way 'on the make'. I don't have anything personally (i.e. away from SUFC) against the man, Kevin McCabe. I do think he has fucked this club with his incompetence, be it players or managers. I do think he has thankfully changed his strategy this season (and fucking hell, it seems to have worked). I do think he has made some ridiculous proclamations in the past and been disingenuous with us, the fan base (attendees, or non-attendees) I was hoping he was clear on leaving the playing staff business to someone who seems at last to know what he is doing.

With regard Evans I hope:

a. it is less money than we have been led to believe
b. he proves me wrong and bags 20 goals next season and partners Sharp, Clarke and Lavery in a fucking awesome phalanx of goals upon goals upon goals.
c. his acquisition was absolutely cognisant with Wilder's plans for next season

There's my viewpoint. Why should it change?

What do you reckon will be the chances of those outcomes?

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

I didn't say I was moving there. I just used it as an example.

I know you didn't, I was just being a little tinker.

I couldn't deal with posting after midnight with the drunks and nutters, it's bad enough in the day time having to converse with people who don't read threads properly.

Yes those 'non proper readers' are a right pain aren't they.

Good job I'm here though, to keep you on your toes and improve your typing speed.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Your accusation of an 'agenda' is nothing of the sort. It's like most things on here. Remove the lens and it's a bit clearer. I don't want McCabe out. I don't think McCabe is a crook or is any way 'on the make'. I don't have anything personally (i.e. away from SUFC) against the man, Kevin McCabe. I do think he has fucked this club with his incompetence, be it players or managers. I do think he has thankfully changed his strategy this season (and fucking hell, it seems to have worked). I do think he has made some ridiculous proclamations in the past and been disingenuous with us, the fan base (attendees, or non-attendees) I was hoping he was clear on leaving the playing staff business to someone who seems at last to know what he is doing.

With regard Evans I hope:

a. it is less money than we have been led to believe
b. he proves me wrong and bags 20 goals next season and partners Sharp, Clarke and Lavery in a fucking awesome phalanx of goals upon goals upon goals.
c. his acquisition was absolutely cognisant with Wilder's plans for next season

There's my viewpoint. Why should it change?

What do you reckon will be the chances of those outcomes?

pommpey

C,A,B is what I reckon out of your list

 

[Grizzly blade]

Just shows that folk will swallow any old shite if it works for them.

We've had...this reeks of McCabe...Evans is suing the club so we have decided to sign him...Wilder was told about us signing him when he took over...etc etc.

Many far fetched, all can't be right so suggests that in reality nobody knows. But one thing I do know is this.
Wilder has transformed the fortunes of this club through hard work and instilling that ethic into players he signed and players he took over.
Wilder has built a squad expertly, and has been proven right in pretty much every aspect. The only one that might have gone south being Hussey. He has made it clear he has the final say on ALL transfers, and is in sole control of the football aspects of the first team squad. And he has done all this with a sensible approach financially that has shown he will stick to set limits and fees rigidly.

Therefore, as far as Ched Evans is concerned I am happy to trust that the manager has brought the player in based on him feeling he can get the most from him and get a player in that can do a job for him at a cost within the budgets of the club. Take the past out of it, and concentrate on the football.

 

[Harrisblade]

I know you didn't, I was just being a little tinker.



Yes those 'non proper readers' are a right pain aren't they.

Good job I'm here though, to keep you on your toes and improve your typing speed.

To be honest, typing speed is the least of most peoples problems

 

[blade too long]

lets get things straight

Chris Wilder is possibly the most pragmatic manager weve ever had
he has finite goals based on common sense, work ethic and sustainability

He is solely responsible for recruitment and his job of his lifetime is dependant on his choices

Anyone who thinks hes led by the nose on who he signs , has lost the plot, completely
Alan Knill will have detailed all the range of outcomes in doing this deal

If he and Chris think it can work
be a brave blade to doubt it
come on think about it

Sharp and Evans up front let it just sink in

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

If it's correct, 99.99999% apparently, why no statement from CW or the club. The response from The lane is deafening.?

Because they are furious, the response is difficult to make although 11-0 against Chesterfield might start to right a wrong.

 

[larkymasher]

The same place th £500k figure came from....someone's arse!

It's like this....if you have an agenda...say against one of the owners you use the figure generated by the media (to make it more sensational) then you use a figure like 500k to cause as much fury and rumpus as possible because we all know that the amount is more than he is worth based on his season with Chesterfield alone.

If your agenda is painting the club in a positive light...you say the figure is much less, say £150k, because that amount is peanuts in comparison and would make that amount a worthwhile gamble based on his PAST exploits of a footballer.

Now you can decide yourself where some of the supporters on here's agendas lay, but their motives are anyone's guess. But Wilder has put a few past sensationalist headlines right when putting down the fallacies surrounding us "buying" our way out of this division. Without checking, I believe the truth around what we had paid for Moore, Carruthers, Clarke and Hanson for example was a good deal less than the figures quoted by media and other clubs chairmen.
Don't be surprised if the manager or other club representative puts this equally random figure right when they feel the time is appropriate. Say, when we actually complete the transfer after the current season has finished!

I will let you and others carry on the debate..... I think my point is that with todays transfer fees and undisclosed fees nobody has a clue what was paid for any given player. Whether it be £1 of £100m.

 

[I should coco]

To be honest, typing speed is the least of most peoples problems

Yes, missing out an apostrophe is one of many people's problems.

 

[GrayBlade]

Actually Ranger's had a very good season. And if we are looking for one more piece in the striking jigsaw...

BEHAVE!!