Definition of 'Bandwagon jumper'

[Dkc]

As opposed to the full timers who don't sing because they're nervous?

Ah but they have earned the right not to sing

 

[Sheffsteel]

It's impossible to judge band wagon jumpers.

Some of the most passionate Blades I know haven't been to a single match in years.
I know some passionate Blades who refuse to step foot anywhere near S6 so never seen us play at Hillsboro.

I used to go to loads of away games in the 80's and early 90's.
Now that I've seen us play at most grounds I've stopped going to any away games, last 1 was 10 year ago
BUT even I'm going to the MK Dons match. Knew I'd struggle to get the tickets I wanted so paid over the odds in corporate but for me it's well worth it.

I've only ever had a season ticket when we've been in the top flight but I've always been a member and attended at least 2 thirds of home games, since the late 70's. Wilder has worked his magic on me because I've already bought 2 new season tickets for next season. I've well and truly got my mojo back.

 

[snootyfenooty]

I've noticed on this forum that quite a lot of posters say they have been supporting United since 1970 (or thereabouts). There's a reason for that, we had a good team with 2 or 3 great individuals, one of whom was world class, who were a pleasure to watch so there was nothing unusual in the club attracting a whole new generation of fans. Were these fans classed as bandwagon jumpers in the day?

It's not unreasonable to suggest that it is this set of supporters who have carried us through the not so good times but numbers are starting to dwindle from this demographic for obvious reasons. This is a great opportunity to gain a whole new generation of supporters who will in turn will carry us through the next 30 or 40 years for the same reasons as the 70's mob .

Running a football club is a long term project so all these fucking nonsensical accusations directed towards bandwagon jumpers should be treated with the contempt they deserve. There is no distinction between any fan, old or new or part-time, and we should be making all the effort we can to attract the new ones without all the accompanying snidey comments. Otherwise sometime in the not to distant future we won't have any fans.

 

[FlamingLip]

I think hating fresh faces is quite a Bladey thing. Maybe a Sheffield thing, I dunno. Hudds/Bradford for the last few years have gone out their way to be more inclusive and accessible welcoming all and sundry with unbelievably low prices. and if anyone has visited either place recently it has created a buzz. I haven't spoken to one Town fan that hasn't preferred a full house over a half empty ground.

Yet "gi mi 14 foouuusand passionate Blades any day 'a week fo' me" is quite the old skool BDTBL mantra.

3 years ago a post match Wembley boozer some incoherent plum was picking fights with Blades wearing the 125 yr commemorative top in some My Loyalty Point Cock is bigger than yours argument.

 

[BushBlade]

I've noticed on this forum that quite a lot of posters say they have been supporting United since 1970 (or thereabouts). There's a reason for that, we had a good team with 2 or 3 great individuals, one of whom was world class, who were a pleasure to watch so there was nothing unusual in the club attracting a whole new generation of fans. Were these fans classed as bandwagon jumpers in the day?

It's not unreasonable to suggest that it is this set of supporters who have carried us through the not so good times but numbers are starting to dwindle from this demographic for obvious reasons. This is a great opportunity to gain a whole new generation of supporters who will in turn will carry us through the next 30 or 40 years for the same reasons as the 70's mob .

Running a football club is a long term project so all these fucking nonsensical accusations directed towards bandwagon jumpers should be treated with the contempt they deserve. There is no distinction between any fan, old or new or part-time, and we should be making all the effort we can to attract the new ones without all the accompanying snidey comments. Otherwise sometime in the not to distant future we won't have any fans.

Exactly. You ask most Blades when they started supporting us, or going regular, and nine out of ten will say during the Harris/Porterfield/Bassett/Warnock eras. When we were successful. And whatever people say about Clough, the cup runs seem to have kept us going, sparked a bit of interest amongst younger supporters that we've managed to capitalise on by following up with this season.

 

[ourbob]

Define bandwagon.

No financial,family or work ties goes to the "big matches"you know,when you go to the pub on match days and see the same people in the same pub at the same time every home match.
Then, BOOOOM.

Big match and can't get fuckin served at the bar cos all the part timers have arrived.

Away matches.

Can't be arsed all season but are the biggest blade in the world when it's nailed on.

Yes,I was at millwall that day walkin away bottom of the league.

 

[Jon P]

I've fallen off the wagon after all the celebrations this week...

 

[Crouchy]

Before you all post photos of people wearing Led Zeppelin jumpers or GIF's of people appearing in Terror Vision jumpers to grannies tea party, I'm curious to know how people define someone jumping on the Bandwagon when it comes to watching United.

I see it all the time mentioned on here when people get arsey about tickets to games towards the end of a promotion winning season. So how do you define it?

As a non-season ticket holder due to cost and working commitments but someone who has over 25 years been to Bury away on a Friday night and Oxford away and got pissed wet through at the old Manor Ground am I in that category for getting a Chez Vegas ticket? Would be interested to hear people's thoughts.

I'd like to think that if you went Mansfield, you can never be classed as a bandwagon jumper

I've been going since 1978, I haven't been to Hillsborough since 1979, I haven't had a season ticket since the late 1980s, I've been in Blades Revival since the start, I've been to two games this season (Oxford and Swindon away).

I'll be at the Chesterfield game and I don't give a flying fuck what anyone else thinks of that.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Bandwagon Jumper . What a load of bollocks and inverted snobbery . We are a backwater club in a backwater city , not some club in the M25 orbital .

Moving forward we need all the support we can

If truth be known , how many times have we been at the lane , and thought what the fuck am I doing here watching this carbage .

For some when they stop going , it's difficult to get the momentum going again .

Just because I go makes me no better than them who stopped and pick there matches .

Wilder said we ain't glory hunters .

 

[snootyfenooty]

I haven't been to Hillsborough since 1979,

Me neither, I can't for the life of me remember why!

 

[FlamingLip]

Define bandwagon.

No financial,family or work ties goes to the "big matches"you know,when you go to the pub on match days and see the same people in the same pub at the same time every home match.
Then, BOOOOM.

Big match and can't get fuckin served at the bar cos all the part timers have arrived.

Away matches.

Can't be arsed all season but are the biggest blade in the world when it's nailed on.

Yes,I was at millwall that day walkin away bottom of the league.

what would you prefer, an embarrassingly low 'tin pot' attendance for big matches? This happens, it always has happened and always will. Everywhere. Just the same as when bands release that annoying top ten hit, you have to put with shit arena seats and triple prices.

Hopefully continued higher attendances will mean the club has more money to improve the largely shit facilities at the Lane. Which for me is the issue, not new fans.

 

[ourbob]

Just love it. Happy days. Bandwagoners, students, lapsed fans, returners to the cross, kids mates from next door wearing Man U shirts, people from Dore with friends up, t'owd lad who can't normally get, squaddies, international students, those young Asian lads on Vincent Rd kicking a tin on match days, wives, boyfriends, people from Mirfield or Belper, girlfriends, husbands, folk coming to Hallam Open Day folk, Middlewood u13s, Upperthorpe Residents association, Sisters of the Passion, refugees. ALL WELCOME. The more the merrier, spread the faith as the Blades go marching in.

WIVES!!

Are you for real?

The last time our lass went to a match with me she was in a different stand.

 

[Ricky]

One thing I'll say is that "follerin 'em all over t'shop int eighties" doesn't mean you can't be a bandwagon jumper in the current time. Maybe you're not a thoroughbred bandwagoner, but you're a bandwagoner nevertheless.

All clubs need these times to attract new fans though. I bet the majority start following clubs during good spells.

I've got no problem with irregular/new attendees at matches as long as they go along with it all. Take Wembley as the example of the opposite. You get scores of people who are barely even interested in football just going along for the day and dictating to passionate supporters.

 

[ourbob]

what would you prefer, an embarrassingly low 'tin pot' attendance for big matches? This happens, it always has happened and always will. Everywhere. Just the same as when bands release that annoying top ten hit, you have to put with shit arena seats and triple prices.

Hopefully continued higher attendances will mean the club has more money to improve the largely shit facilities at the Lane. Which for me is the issue, not new fans.

Read the title of the post.

 

[Fanny magnet]

I don't know about bandwagon jumpers but people who slag their fellow fans off at any opportunity are the worst

 

[bladesmanluke]

Bandwagon jumper is such a load of olde bollocks. If more people want to go and watch the Blades then I don't see what the problem is. There is a loyalty point system to reward those who've continued to watch the team, and season tickets also have offers etc. It's just superior nonsense from a select view and to be honest I've not seen too much of it on here over the years.

If somebody attended every game from 2000 to 2010 and then stopped going because they didn't want to watch league one football got an MK away ticket ahead of someone much younger, who only attended every game whilst the club had been in league one and therefore had less points, but had been to many more games whilst we were shit. They'd be a massive fucking bandwagon jumping prick from my select view.

I do see the other point of view however in that their money going back into the club again is great, but not at the expense of another more loyal supporter

 

[georgebernardshaw]

At a time like this, top of the league, champions elect, one of the most divisive posts we've had - after counting his likes, the OP should hang his head in shame.

This is not Sheffield 6, get a fucking grip

 

[Jan Age]

I convinced my mates son to jump on the promotion bandwagon he's 7 and was a disillusioned with Chesterfield.

My mate and his son attended the Bolton match and since that haven't missed a home game. Even taking the lads grandad along.

For the Chesterfield game he's taking wife, 2 kids and grandad. Now imagine if everyone of us invited someone and then that happened!

There wouldn't be a stadium big enough.

I'm all for Kerri g as many as possible jump on the bandwagon.... all aboard!

 

[BushBlade]

If somebody attended every game from 2000 to 2010 and then stopped going because they didn't want to watch league one football got an MK away ticket ahead of someone much younger, who only attended every game whilst the club had been in league one and therefore had less points, but had been to many more games whilst we were shit. They'd be a massive fucking bandwagon jumping prick from my select view.

I do see the other point of view however in that their money going back into the club again is great, but not at the expense of another more loyal supporter

You don't think that by sitting through several years of turgid shit in between a couple of cup runs and one season in the PL means those with ten years of loyalty points deserve them?
And realistically, how many of those that have watched us over those ten years just stopped going because we got relegated and haven't been back since?

 

[bladesmanluke]

You don't think that by sitting through several years of turgid shit in between a couple of cup runs and one season in the PL means those with ten years of loyalty points deserve them?
And realistically, how many of those that have watched us over those ten years just stopped going because we got relegated and haven't been back since?

Yeah perhaps I was slightly harsh as the glory years were hardly brilliant. However I do know of a couple of fans that haven't been since the championship days and are now back at the Lane

 

[snootyfenooty]

Yeah perhaps I was slightly harsh as the glory years were hardly brilliant. However I do know of a couple of fans that haven't been since the championship days and are now back at the Lane

That's the whole point. Why on earth do returning fans or new fans rankle so much with some?

 

[Johnstreetstand]

If somebody attended every game from 2000 to 2010 and then stopped going because they didn't want to watch league one football got an MK away ticket ahead of someone much younger, who only attended every game whilst the club had been in league one and therefore had less points, but had been to many more games whilst we were shit. They'd be a massive fucking bandwagon jumping prick from my select view.

I do see the other point of view however in that their money going back into the club again is great, but not at the expense of another more loyal supporter

That's it, just send your money in, don't attend. You can only attend when you have sent money in for ten years. You are not allowed to enjoy the atmosphere in case you dilute it. You are not allowed to queue up for a ticket in case some lazy , non season ticket but go to more matches than you, wants to wake up late and get his rightful reward. You can't go in any pub within 2 miles of a match in case you sit or stand in a spot someone uses once a fortnight. you are not allowed to hum along or sing a song that everyone sings different words to. Please don't think of becoming a Blade until you have suffered like the rest of us. Simple really. Royston Vasey FC.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't mind fans who come back when the going is good. I just don't like ones who moan when they can't get a ticket especially for away games.

I am on 35k points but they seriously slowed down when my son came along almost 2 1/2 years ago. I couldn't get tickets on the away end at Northampton but neither did I think I deserved to either. I did however have my tickets already bought on the home end before our tickets came on sale knowing this.

Oh and if people can't get a ticket for chesterfield get one for Bradford!

The comments yesterday about bandwagon jumpers were exactly about people moaning about not getting tickets and wanting the loyalty points system changing so it suits them. As said yesterday, many points totals have pulled away from others because they've gone religiously for the last six seasons.

The comments were more about that than fans turning up now, which can only be a good thing.

Still, it's like confession for some, so three Hail Wilders and two Our McCabes for you all.

 

[Pinchy]

I'm so proud of our team. I want as many people as possible to watch and admire them. Many of them will go on to be as passionate (and silently nervous) as the rest of us

Lerremin.

Lerremallin.

 

[ourbob]

I don't know about bandwagon jumpers but people who slag their fellow fans off at any opportunity are the worst

Every club in the world has them,a club will not grow without them.
If for some reason "very rare" I can't make a match a mate who pays for his ticket by the match or short of money gets to use my ticket before the next who only goes on a freebie or the "big match".

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I'm so proud of our team. I want as many people as possible to watch and admire them. Many of them will go on to be as passionate (and silently nervous) as the rest of us

Lerremin.

Lerremallin.

Don't usually agree with you, but have a like for that mate

 

[CarlingBlade]

My take on it is:

Supporters support the club, irrespective of wins, loses, who the manager is and which players you don't like, its like an addiction, its in the blood and you find the money to go because you'll sacrifice a few pints a week in the pub, a meal out etc for a season ticket.

Fans follow the club, even if they're not going regularly they're still following the results and going on's and care about how the club is doing.

Bandwagon jumpers dip out when the going gets tough and they're usually the ones moaning about loyalty points.

 

[Sean Thornton]

That's the whole point. Why on earth do returning fans or new fans rankle so much with some?

It's the ones who moan about not being able to get a ticket. The OP has moved that debate on as if it was about returning/new fans full stop. It wasn't, it was about those coming back and feeling hard done to while others who'd stuck with us rightly accumulated points that give them priority.

One poster has said he's paid for the Corporate package at MK to ensure a ticket. Good for him, that's what I'd have done.

 

[ourbob]

I would be happier if the bandwagon people just come to the match but keep out of the bloody pub!!

Especially the roebuck 13.00-14.00 and the golden lion 17.00-18-00

Not alot to ask for is it?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm so proud of our team. I want as many people as possible to watch and admire them. Many of them will go on to be as passionate (and silently nervous) as the rest of us

Lerremin.

Lerremallin.

Even the gerritupfielders?